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What is the difference? How can you distinguish between them?


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The smell.................(grin)


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The A-Bolt has a fluted bolt, the A-Bolt II does not.


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Ohhhh..the difference from eachother? I thought he meant the crowd................(GRIN)


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Yeah, yeah, and a Remington sounds like a cash register when ya lift the bolt handle...


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The A-Bolt has a fluted bolt, the A-Bolt II does not.


Thanx jog

Any negatives about the A-I as opposed to the A-II?


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JOG,

I love it. Now THAT is funny!..................


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POP,

Negatives? That depends...

A-Bolts are nice looking (in my opinion) and accurate rifles, and are generally lighter in weight when comparing apples to apples. I don't think the differences between the two A-Bolt versions amount to much, but the fluted bolt is kinda cool.

If you want to wring the most out of an action as a donor or a custom the A-Bolt is a poor choice - the options landscape is bleak.

I'll stick my neck out and say the A-Bolt is a better out-of-the-box rifle than many - but at a premium price. If you bought a Remington, for example, and put the money you saved back into the rifle you would probably end up ahead.


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Same here JOG. Never had one that would not shoot accurately.



This is the whole deal. My buddy loves Brownings and he has been looking for one in a 375 HH for a long time. I found one on the i-net but I am not sure if:



1. It is a A1 or A2? (this is why I asked about the positives/negatives between the two and how to tell them apart).



2. If the price is good?



Here is the link what do you think?



http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=14669991



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POP,

That's an A-Bolt II.

The price seems a little high. The "cheapest" Browning dealer around here has the same rifle for $679.99.

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You're talking about the Medallion right? What the heck is the diff with the medallion and non-medallion anyway. Just the engraved receiver?


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I had an A-bolt II, Stainless Stalker .338WinMag. It had the fluted, round bolt body.

I don't know for sure, but I've heard the Abolt II improvements were a rotating piece that keeps the ammo in the magazine from touching the bolt body, and an improved trigger mechanism that included a chromed sear. My Abolt II did have both of these features.

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DOF (Degree of Flossy) is the only difference. The Medallions have nicer wood and bluing.


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[quote]Same here JOG. Never had one that would not shoot accurately.

This is the whole deal. My buddy loves Brownings and he has been looking for one in a 375 HH for a long time. I found one on the i-net but I am not sure if:

1. It is a A1 or A2? (this is why I asked about the positives/negatives between the two and how to tell them apart).
[color:"blue"] It looks to be a A-Bolt I, which doesn't have the newer anti bind bolt, and an improved trigger system added in 1994. The one pictured is "medalion" grade [/color]
2. If the price is good?
[color:"blue"] NIB is $525 according to SCF 2003 a $200 premium is added for .300 and .338 mag, but nothing is mentioned about .375 H&H, apparently this guy applied the $200 anyways, then knocked off $5 cuz its the Holiday's <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> [/color]


[color:"blue"] Every one I know has never had a complaint with their accuracy, but the A-Bolts seem to hold a disfiguring position with most 'Smiths. A Bear to work on/with from what I've heard/read? I would imagine parts for a gun out of production at least 10 years would be that much more difficult to obtain.
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MontanaMarine,

The attached photo was the best one I could steal off the 'net. The A-Bolt is the one on the right, and is what I mean by "fluted".

If your A-Bolt II has this type of bolt, then I stand corrected and apologize for the confusion.

PS: The other bolts are a Weatherby and a M700.

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Hey Pop:

I am not sure if this will help you, but I bought one of the very first long-action Mediallion A-bolts to come into Canada. At that time there was the:

*A-Bolt Medallion: (shown in your pic) with gloss wood and a gold trigger.

*A-Bolt Hunter: Flat wood finish and blued trigger (Cheaper model)

This was the case in about 1985 or so. At that time I believe there was $100.00 Canadian difference in value between them.

As you can figure I have had my A-Bolt for about 17 years and it is still my favorite weapon to hunt with.

It speaks with authority at the squeeze of the trigger!


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JOG, that's the bolt that was in mine.

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MontanaMarine,

Thanks for the correction. I'm wondering if there was a transition period to the new style bolts, and I'll hit the books.

That said, the link POP posted looks like a non-fluted bolt. While my confidence is shot <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />, I'm guessing the non-fluted bolts are A-Bolt II only.


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JOG,

I can't figure it out either.

I've never seen a short action with the round fluted bolt.

It seems like the long actions I've seen lately are the round fluted bolt.

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Just wanted to add to this thread. if the rifle is a new in the box rifle 9 times out of ten it is the a-bolt II. if it is used it could be the older model a-bolt. also wanted to point out that while there are better choices for a custom rifle, the a-bolt II will also work if you are looking for something other than a remmington or a winchester. i have 2 a-bolts II rifles that have been fully customized and the smith i use said he had zero problems working on either. just food for thought...


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