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It all started with Weatherby pumps, then Remington, now, Winchester model 12. It rains here, alot, so why bother with a finish, just oil. This one was built in 1914, the wood and choke is later.

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got to love the model 12's. I wish I had a dollar for every shell I ever shot thru a Poly choke....


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That ole' Winnie looks like she could tell some stories.

I love that look. Well used, well cared for.


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Originally Posted by AsphaltCowboy
I recognize that first gun, but the name eludes me right now. le'me look around a bit.


I've got an identification thanks to a French hunter who owns a 10 gauge from the same gunmaker: It seems to be a "Joseph Saive".

I ask myself if that Joseph Saive is linked to the famous gun engineer Dieudonn� Joseph Saive ?

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Dieudonn� Joseph Saive (1889�1973) was a Belgian small arms designer who designed the FN Model 1949[1] and the FN FAL. He became the head firearms developer of Fabrique Nationale after the death of John Browning. After John Browning's death, Saive continued with and finished the design started by Browning on the GP-35 pistol, commonly known as the Browning Hi-Power. It was the first 9 mm handgun to utilize a staggered-column magazine with a single feed point allowing a total of thirteen rounds to be loaded without an oversized grip or having the magazine protruding from below the grip.


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Here are few of mine:

Winchester 23 with winchokes, 12 gauge
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SKB 400 SXS 12 gauge
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Ruger Red Label 20 gauge
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SIG/Rizzini TT45 12 Gauge
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2 SIGs, one in 12, the other in 20
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A couple of 20 gauge Remingtons, Father/son guns
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those are some fine looking guns for sure....


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I don�t have a camera handy, but here�s my list of shotguns; some are nice and some are quite pedestrian � but I enjoy them all.

12 Bore 2 �� Westley Richards Anson & Deeley Boxlock, non-ejector. 30� Damascus barrels, double triggers choked � & �
12 Bore 2 �� Antonio Zoli Z Gun (Verona LX 980/Zoli Kronos) � Adjustable comb stock on exhibition grade wood, 30� barrels, cased with lots of chokes and accessories
12 Bore 2 �� Browning Auto 5: Made in the early �30�s or there abouts. 28 �� plain barrel, no engraving
20 Bore 2 �� Remington Model 11; 26� solid rib, � choke.
12 Bore 2 5/8� Remington 1889 Hammer Gun; 30� fluid steel barrels choked full/full
12 Bore 2 �� Winchester Model 12; 28� vent rib, choked �
12 Bore 2 �� JC Higgins Model 20 Deluxe; 28� vent rib with Pachmayr Pow-R-Choke
12 Bore 2 �� Winchester Model 1897; 18� barrel, cylinder bore
12 Bore 2 �� Hercules (Stevens 1929) single shot; 32� plain barrel, full choke
.410 Bore 2 �� Hercules (Stevens 1929) single shot; 26� plain barrel, full choke
.410 Bore 3� Stevens �Springfield� Bolt Action; 28� plain barrel, full choke

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my only two

Remington 870 Express 12 ga
IAC Coach Gun - 12 ga

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here's one of my favourites, a Merkel combo 2 barrel set 16/16 and 16/7x57R
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castnblast - A lot of drilling and combo guns have their shotgun barrels regulated to the rifle barrel for use with a slug. Ever try slugs out of your combo barrel?

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I think it's a Francotte. Wild guess, but just look at it!
Barrel extension into standing breech, with Greener-type cross-
bolt, and sideclips, if you please! That's a lot of class for
a boxlock, which is why I think Francotte, or maybe Dumoulin.
Seems too well engineered to simply be a Belgian "trade gun."

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11-87, customed stocked by Dave VandenBrand, 26 inch tube, ported by Pro-Port witn Briley extended tubes. Wood is awesome, pics dont do justice........


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Sig TT45, made by B. Rizzini, imported by Sig Arms, 32 inch gun, my main clays gun....


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It�s a magazine not a clip......

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Thats me and my Model 21, 26" barrels, cylinder & cylinder, double triggers, extractors, manufactured in 1937. Pheasant hunting near the Missouri Breaks MT (Square Butte in the background) in 2004

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outstanding wood....



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got to love those Winchesters....


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Here are the only doubles I have at the moment. Nothing as fancey as some of you guys.
Browning Citori 525 20ga
Ruger Red Label 12ga
Churchill Windsor I 20ga SxS
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I just added this one to the collection today. It's a caesar Guerini 28ga with 28" barrels on it it's for my son to use shooting sporting clays and trap with. Then when he outgrows it it will come back to dear old dad.
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Originally Posted by Odessa
Thats me and my Model 21, 26" barrels, cylinder & cylinder, double triggers, extractors, manufactured in 1937. Pheasant hunting near the Missouri Breaks MT (Square Butte in the background) in 2004

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Just goes to show, with modern loads, you really don't need to worry about choke. When in doubt, go one size larger.

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Originally Posted by Fang
Barrel extension into standing breech, with Greener-type cross- bolt, and sideclips, if you please! That's a lot of class for
a boxlock, which is why I think Francotte, or maybe Dumoulin.
Seems too well engineered to simply be a Belgian "trade gun."


In fact it is a quite common package for an old school shotgun from Liege. The same with my "bayard" that was known as a basic non custom / non fancy gun. Belgian's gunsmithing good old and lost time cry .

I can confirm the hammerless is a Joseph Saive.


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