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Consistency vs. Accuracy in shooting a rifle!



I'm curious, which one is more important and why? Also, when you guys/gales go to the rifle range what is your No. 1 objective or goal ? And does anyone here know of any techniques to observe someone that might be flinching or pulling the rifle anticipating the recoil?

Man I hate those lynched rifles. It kills the resale value.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I know what you mean. I as soons as they are lynched, they are never the same.

Had a guy try to sell me one that was lynched. Could tell right away by the rope marks on the stock. (stretched it pretty bad BTW) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Tony

They're never the same after they've been lynched. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Seriously, give me a 1.5-inch rifle that maintains zero over a .5-inch rifle that wanders every time.

Of course, with Mr. Sisk you can have both. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Rick

Damn, are the Regulators riding again?

Okay , maybe this is the way the words spelled "flinching " LOL

aren't the regulators cartoon heroes on saturday mornings? or are they the top-selling laxatives?
so old ... memory going fast ... help ... meeeee <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Don't worry T ... I'm sure they'll return it once it is found! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me

Regarding the linching. This is a method we used when I shot competitively with the Marines in a much earlier life. I guarantee it will point out even the most minor forms of linching. I think most shooters do not believe they flinch but this test has proved a lot of them wrong.



Go to the range with a buddy. Have the buddy load your rifle but have them either put a round into it or not put one into it. When you pull the trigger you will know immediately, no one needs to tell you, it will be obvious. A lot of people are very surprised that although they knew the gun may not be loaded, they still flinch. Flinching is involuntary and can be detrimental even if it is just your eye blinking, but most at least do a hard squint.



In todays magnumania a lot of guys are shooting too big of a gun. Their reply is usually something like "well I shoot an elk every year" or "you never feel it when you are in the field." This is just a defensive response because the flinch is in anticipation of the shot not as a reaction after the shot. You are gonna flinch even if the gun didn't go off.



I deal with customers from all over the world. If I get along with a certain group particularly well I will take out on my farm to let them experience some of our American freedoms.



What I find is that many of the American hunters flinch while many of the much smaller asians do not initially. The asians, never having shot a gun, have not developed this involuntary reaction to the anticipation of the shot. They say Wow! after the shot but if they shoot without a round, there is no flinch.



Going through this practice is also a superb way of eliminating a flinch. In the military we did it on about a weekly basis to ensure that no one on the team was developing a flinch. You should be able to pull the trigger and not even blink keeping the target in focus regardless of the recoil.

oh, so it's flinch! isn't that a kind of small bird? i like birds. they are pretty. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

We don't have any Flinches here, lots of Grackles and Buzzards though. Few Scrub Jays as well. OH and a wandering Pileted Woodpecker time to time.

'Go to the range with a buddy. Have the buddy load your rifle but have them either put a round into it or not put one into it. When you pull the trigger you will know immediately, no one needs to tell you, it will be obvious. A lot of people are very surprised that although they knew the gun may not be loaded, they still flinch. Flinching is involuntary and can be detrimental even if it is just your eye blinking, but most at least do a hard squint."

Tundragriz

That's the exact same technique my dad used to help see if we were flinching, and it absolutely works. This also is the reason why those who practice dry- firing as a way to improve their skills with trigger pull, don't realize they're giving up an important edge. And that is to believe, think and handle the weapon as if it's always loaded. Everything else is just good commonsense.

pileated woodpeckers certainly can make a racket with their hollering back and forth to one another.

speaking of woodpeckers, was woody woodpecker a pileated one or something else?

I don't know about Woody, but the first time this sucker hit my alum. soffet I thought it was a Ma Deuce being fired!

Hey T Lee, in another discussion you were saying something about yourself being some kind of expert at long-range distant shooting and that very well could be the case. There's one thing for sure if you can using open sites place three consecutive shots at a 100 yard target that can be covered with a nickel, I'll certainly bow down. Although there is something you might want to consider , one of the tools I invented was named AccuMark and if anyone puts that word in a search engine at Yahoo this web site will pop-up. LOL



http://www.weatherby.com/rifles/mag_accumark.shtml

I've used a nasty, multiple-dirty version of the classic "is it loaded?" ruse to show whether a shooter flinches:
� I let 'em see me load a full magazine in my .458 Winchester Magnum.
� I chamber and fire Round One and eject the spent case.
� I hold the next round down and close the bolt on an empty chamber.
� I put the safety on.
(I do both these last two dirty tricks surreptitiously, of course.)

Then I hand the rifle to the unsuspecting friend and let him "shoot." If he flinches (as they almost always do with my .458 after they've seen it rock me backward), it's obvious to everybody.

"Oh!" I say, "The safety's on."

I take the rifle, put the safety OFF, and hand it back.

--- and yes, even after his flinch has been dramatically revealed to everyone present, he flinches just as badly the second time, when he drops the striker on an empty chamber.

It's a dirty technique, but no one continues to insist that he never flinches.

(But it's not nearly as nasty, guys, as your snotty replies ridiculing a typo in friend Larry's original lead post -- if I'd made a big deal of your typos, you'd be like the ant that chose the wrong time to run around the near rim of the urinal.) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Ken's right, as usual.

I've noticed a change in the tone of larrymartin's posting over the last few days. If he's gotten the message, I say we cut him some slack and see how he handles it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Otherwise Ken gets to correct all our grammatical errors, and this place goes belly up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Rick