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This grew out of a thread on the Elk Hunting forum about how effective ultra-velocity rifles can be when they shoot all-copper bullets. Here are my pics. It shoots moly-coated 53 grain Barnes X's at 4285 fps out of a 30 inch, (now 27) 1 in 16 twist barrel. Five shots into about a quarter of an inch at 100 yards. It's killed more than two dozen deer - half of them Mulies in clear-cuts and half White-Tails out in alfalfa fields. Many of them were very big-bodied deer. It has a higher percentage of "bang-flops" than any other cartridge I've ever used a lot - including decades of shooting such fast-steppers as 25-06's, 7mmSTW's and .300 Magnums. The farthest deer, so far, was a big fat 5X5 Whitetail at the far end of an alfalfa field at a measured 385 yards. The shortest was a Whitetail at about 15 yards. Half of the deer were dead before the rifle settled down. Not a single deer made it even close to 50 yards after being hit. Coyotes and ground hogs almost blow-up. There's "fast" - then there's "FAST!!!"
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Very nice. I have a 12 twist barrel sitting around that I was trying to decide what chamber to build. Right now it's a 22-250 that shoots good, but I sort of got bored with it. This one might be a fun one to build.
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Dober, does this mean I'm going to see you traipse in with an action in one hand and a "tube" in the other?? Again... Ingwe
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No tube, but I may have our friend down the hall order me a tube for the old M77/Tang. I spoke with him about the idea last Friday.
What tubes are you liking these days?
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Dayum, Brian. That be's one smokin' .22.
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Really a bit much for a Canuck don't ya think eh?
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What tubes are you liking these days?
Thx Dober
The big "A" talked me into a Hart...easily the nicest Bbl.Ive ever worked with... He also likes Lilje, and Kreiger as of late...especially Kreiger. I tend to listen to him... Ingwe
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Ya - but I need it - our deer up here aren't exactly German-Shepherd sized ya know! Even the small antlered ones have BIG bodies! And the ones with bigger antlers - can take a man all his strength to get in the back of a truck!
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Super pic's! Thanks for sharing.
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Oh, and that is a SMOKING little round!
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FINE looking rifle and young man,SOUNDS LIKE A VERY CAPABLE ROUND ALSO.I'm in the process of finding out if my 22-250 likes the 53gr TSX'S also.
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BCBrian Very nice.I've been a CHeetah fan for many years.But always in vermin mode.Often thought a winterized version with a copper bullet would make a sweet addition.Ackley said that a Swift with a copper bullet killed deer size game much quicker than normal rounds.Some very old targets for ya. What are you making cases out of. dave
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Great post and pics. I have played witht the 22 Cheetah mk 1 and Mkll versions and really enjoyed them. If 22cal was legal here would not hesitate to use a fast 22 on them with the Barnes bullets. I have some TSX 22's that I will load into my 22-250AI soon. I might have to buy a Oregon Deer tag just so I can try it out. Told the wifey last week that I really need to move somewhere where I can shoot more than one or two big game animals per year. A rifle looney cannot survive on one deer and maybe one elk per year!
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Cool rifle and cartridge Brian, you ever nail a blackie with that combo? I'm sure of what the results would be if you do.
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Nice rifle Brian, I hafta say even though I have zero experience with that cartridge I say I have always been impressed with how it looks and what the mags say about it.
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you should talk to Ringman Brian, he has just finished a rifle he calls the .224 MBOC. that thing is smokin fast as well, and shoots light out from what i understand. i have never shot it, but i have seen it in person. it needs a new stock to be anywhere near as nice as yours though.
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Must be nice.
I couldn't get the 53gr tsx's to stabilize in my CHeetah.
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