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Let's just say I can't shoot a .454 Casull. A gov't .45 is no problem for me.


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I have a near matched pair of Glocks in 29 - 10mm and 30 - .45acp. I find the 10mm recoils a little faster but the difference in felt recoil isn't that much if I am using .45 +P ammo, which is not much different the standard stuff really.

In comparing the model 29 to the model 20 over my Oehler 35P, there is 50 fps between them with all the loads I have tried so far.

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Hatari......Bitch yes! I have about a half dozen in my kennel and all have more bloodlines in them than the Queen of England.

This morning the wife and I did go to our shooting club and shoot those 2 new KEL-TEC PF-9's and my GLOCK 20 in 10mm. The PF-9's were more accurate than the last KEL-TEC we purchased, the # 11 model and the trigger pull was a bit less too. The accuracy of one of the KEL's was around 2 inches at 15 feet with cheap Blazer FMJ 115 grn bullets. The 2nd KEL-TEC shot around 3 inch groups at 15ft slow fire.

Now came the true story for the KEL-TEC's! I then paced off 6 feet and inserted the clip ready for action on the target. At the whistle I came to a combat stance and fired on target with a two handed hold on the pistol at the target as fast as I could pull the trigger. The results were that I managed to place 7 shots into a torso area of 8 inches everytime out the gate with both pistols. No aiming just point and fire on target, pulling that long trigger pull as fast as I could. Now at 6ft away, hitting all shots on target is a plus in my book. I believe that even staying inside a 9inch pie plate (as torso target) is still good enough for any muggers or car jackers on the street today.

Now when I aimed those sights and brought the pistol up to eye or nose height, the groups size shrank considerably to a little over 4.5 inches. We are also pleased with the accuracy and handling of both are new KEL-TEC PF-9 models.

The new GLOCK model 20 was a shear delight to shoot! I managed to put 8 out of 10 shots into a 2 inch bulls eye at 15ft right out of the box. I shot several groups of 10 with this pistol from 6, 10, 15 and 20ft. Now at 30ft using a table rest, slow fire and shooting at a 6 inch Orange color bullseye, I put another 8 shots in the center of the orange and 2 shots just to the right by 1.5 inches. This GLOCK 20 impressed me using once again cheap Blazer ammo. I am very pleased with this new addition to our pistol collection.

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OK. We're talking the .357 Sig vs 10mm. No comparison in my view. The 10mm is a cartridge that can be found in auto's that will crossover to hunters handguns and have a 15rd mag. To compare apples to apples, the 9x25 Dillon is made from a 10mm case (I have the barrel exchange) and is 500fps faster than the .357 Sig. Good luck.

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OK. We're talking the .357 Sig vs 10mm. No comparison in my view. The 10mm is a cartridge that can be found in auto's that will crossover to hunters backup handguns and have a 15rd mag. Mayhap a little heavy for defense, but as mentioned, a man's gun. To compare apples to apples, the 9x25 Dillon is made from a 10mm case (I have the barrel exchange for my Glock 20) and it is 400fps faster than the .357 Sig. Good luck.

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Cro, I am talking about a similar setup for a G20SF in the long tube .357 SIG thread. Thinking a Lone Wolf Long Slide and 6-in. barrel would smoke.

What kind of loads have you come up with for your 9x25 and what kind of accuracy& velocity are you getting?

Killed any critters with it?


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