Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Robert S. McNamara is Dead

Good Riddence. Long overdue. If there were any justice in the world, he'd have done the "Hussein Dangle" for his crimes.

Even though the "ones he pulled to safety" were US Navy, Marine and Air Corps personnel who ditched as a result of enemy fire or low fuel?

The ones that the firebombing saved were US Marines and soldiers, the invasion force.

Remember, those "extra" Purple Heats that were made for the invasion of Japan have been used for the wounded in Korea, Vietnam, Dominican Republic, Lebanon, Grenada, Panama, Gulf War (Kuwait and Iraq), Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq and, we still have lots left!

Forget any Japanese he "saved" with the firebombing, I am referring to the US military who WERE NOT killed or wounded. The invasion was estimated to cost the US over 1,000,000 casualties - these are ones I feel he saved.

The US Navy fliers that were rescued (probably numbering in the high hundreds) through this analysis were icing on the cake.

Actually, McNamara was a Republican, a point he made when Kennedy selected him for Secretary of Defense (he had been President of Ford Motor Company).

40 years too late.

He didn't do jack djs. Other aviators in airplanes with radar, FLIR, visual, etc saved lives. Mengele was a doctor that saved lies as well. This guy was bad news. jorge

they should bury him under an outhouse so the Viet Vets can pay him tribute properly.

As would I!

I have a picture of McMuckup in discussion with a consultant. As usual, they are all knotted up with indecision:

During WW2, FLIR did not exist and radar was rudemetary. Ocean search areas were large and using quantitive analysis and modeling, the area to be searched was reduced. Focusing a limited quantity of eyeballs and search planes on a smaller area led to more aviators being picked up.

Duh...

And you continue to miss the point. Just because he allegedly contributed to a search pattern does not even begin to offset the pain and suffering he caused as a result of his idiotic policies during Vietnam. Whatever his alleged theory during WWII saved, he more than negated it by the hundreds of aviators lost, captured and tortured in Vietnam thanks to him. jorge

So, were the protestors who spoke out against "McNamara's War" in an effort to stop it - the real heroes - or were they the villians?

I'm confused - are you guys pissed that he was the architect of that war - or are you pissed that he eventually came to believe it was one big huge mistake?

Help me understand your hatred of this man.

Thinking neither on the hero issue.

Only so much some of can take of your pathetic crap too.......flows both ways.

Nice try, but I'm afraid if you have to ask, you lack the capability to comprehend. jorge

It appears we have yet another democrap with grammar issues...jorge

No lack of capability here - I'm just a Canuck.

I don't understand a lot of things pertaining to America and Americans.

McNamara was a political hack, part of the Havard "brain trust" with which John Kennedy surrounded himself.

As Jorge said, these idiots tried to micromanage the war for political image, not military effectiveness, timing bombing raids to match press events back the the states. They ordered B-52 runs over the tops of SAM missile emplacements, marked off hundreds of targets as untouchable, breaking off campaigns to give the NVA time to resupply, and everything else they could think of to make the war more dangerous for our pilots and crews.

Don't even get me started on the ground war.

Just remember the stench around his grave will be unbelievable where all the Viet Nam era vets go piss on him one last time.

DANG I meant to write him and explain his future while he was still alive, and could contemplate it during his final few years. Hopefully it would weigh heavily on his daily life.

No telling how many good men died or were severely wounded because he and his dufus president thought they could run the war from DC.

A SALUTE to all of you that did your job well, in spite of the quality of the commander in chief and some of his staff.

BCBrian,just an example of McNamarras bean counting.

the F105 thunderchief airplane could carry 8 500 lb bombs,2 tons of bombs,but he thought if we send out more airplanes with less bombs in each plane we'll get higher sortie #'s and look better on paper.
so 4 times the number of airplanes went out and because the f105 wasn't designed to do the job it was doing,it got shot down more than any other airplane in the Vietnam war.

You are confused. Architect? ROTF here, you should do stand up.

Mistake? You ever heard of the TFX. Surely you recall the Aardvark? That was his huge mistake.

Being as how you're from Canada it's not clear you have a dog in this race anyway. Sure as hell would not expect you to understand any of this since it wasn't your bag. Best you can do with this is walk away. It's not your wart.