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Here is what I have on RL 17

ALL BULLETS ARE SPEER
LOAD DATA RECIPES FOR RELODER� 17

Caliber/Bullet Primer Case Min OAL Chg Wgt Velocity
.223 WSSM
Speer 55 gr SP Fed 210 Win 2.210 46.6 3865
243 Win
Speer 80 gr SP Fed 210 Fed 2.615 44.0 3362
Speer 85 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 2.625 43.7 3316
Speer 100 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.625 40.8 3044
243 WSSM
Speer 70 gr HP Fed 210 Win 2.185 49.0C 3745
Speer 80 gr SP Fed 210 Win 2.255 44.5 3512
Speer 85 gr HP Fed 210 Win 2.255 45.5 3452
Speer 100 gr BTSP Fed 210 Win 2.290 41.0 3128
6 mm Rem
Speer 70 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 2.775 48.5C 3682
Speer 80 gr SP Fed 210 Fed 2.775 46.7 3500
Speer 85 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 2.775 46.0 3441
Speer 100 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.800 44.0 3163
25 WSSM
Speer 87 gr SP Fed 210 Win 2.27 52.0C 3499
Speer 100 gr BTSP Fed 210 Win 2.27 47.5 3311
Speer 120 gr BTSP Fed 210 Win 2.27 45 3041
25-06
Speer 87 gr SP Fed 210 Fed 3.115 54.5 3547
Speer 100 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.095 53 3390
Speer 120 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.200 48.5 3046
6.5x55 (Commercial)
Speer 90 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 2.850 48.5 3223
Speer 120 gr SP Fed 210 Fed 3.000 41.5 2741
Speer 140 gr SP Fed 210 Fed 3.000 38.5 2508
260 Rem
Speer 120 gr SP Fed 210 Fed 2.720 44.0 2912
Speer 140 gr SP Fed 210 Fed 2.745 41.0 2645
270 WSM
Speer 100 gr HP Fed 215 Fed 2.730 67.5 3668
Speer 130 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 2.700 62.0 3258
Speer 150 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 2.700 60.0 3041
270 Win
Speer 100 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 3.100 59.0 3554
Speer 130 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.200 54.0 3136
Speer 150 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.200 51.5 2921
280
Speer 110 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 3.200 59.5 3397
Speer 130 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.205 56.0 3167
Speer 145 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.180 53.0 2968
Speer 160 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.200 51.5 2825
Speer 175 gr GS Fed 210 Fed 3.265 50.5 2674
7 mm WSM
Speer 110 gr HP Fed 215 Win 2.770 69.5 3588
Speer 130 gr BTSP Fed 215 Win 2.775 66.5 3356
Speer 145 gr BTSP Fed 215 Win 2.760 63.5 3166
Speer 160 gr BTSP Fed 215 Win 2.820 60.0 2964
7 mm � 08
Speer 110 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 2.760 50.5C 3169
Speer 115 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 2.655 49.5C 3107
Speer 130 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.730 48.5C 3007
Speer 145 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.730 46.0 2819
Speer 160 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.800 44.0 2669
Speer 175 gr GS Fed 210 Fed 2.745 44.0 2574
7 mm Rem Mag
Speer 110 gr HP Fed 215 Fed 3.200 68.0 3535
Speer 130 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 3.200 63.5 3255
Speer 145 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 3.210 61.8 3113
Speer 160 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 3.210 59.0 2931
Speer 175 gr GS Fed 215 Fed 3.215 57.0 2774
308 Win
Speer 150 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.700 50.0C 2763
Speer 165 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.800 50.0C 2739
Speer 180 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.800 48.7C 2641
30-06
Speer 150 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.250 58.0 3006
Speer 165 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.250 56.5 2874
Speer 168 gr BTHP Fed 210 Fed 3.295 56.0 2850
Speer 180 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 3.250 54.5 2762
Speer 200 gr SP Fed 210 Fed 3.250 51.0 2552
300 WSM
Speer 150 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 2.810 69.3 3343
Speer 165 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 2.810 68.0 3217
Speer 180 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 2.800 66.0 3082
300 Win Mag
Speer 150 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 3.330 74.0 3333
Speer 165 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 3.340 72.5 3202
Speer 168 gr BTHP Fed 215 Fed 3.340 72.5 3182
Speer 180 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 3.340 70.5 3074


300 RSAUM
Speer 130 gr HP Fed 210 Fed 2.625 69.0C 3413
Speer 150 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.8 65.5 3268
Speer 165 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.8 65 3152
Speer 180 gr BTSP Fed 210 Fed 2.800 63 3008
325 WSM
Speer 150 gr S-SP Fed 215 Win 2.850 71.5 3348
Speer 170 gr S-SP Fed 215 Win 2.790 65.0 3131
Speer 200 gr SP Fed 215 Win 2.840 65.0 2897
338 Win Mag
Speer 200 gr SP Fed 215 Fed 3.300 71.0 3002
Speer 225 gr BTSP Fed 215 Fed 3.340 67.5 2831
Speer 250 gr GS Fed 215 Fed 3.300 66.0 2664

Yeah, I used the Alliant data for my RL17 load with a 150 Speer and got almost exactly what Alliant did. But they don't have loads for 220s. I've emailed them, but no luck.
Ok, I just called them up and the main tech support guy is out until next Monday at some pistol matches.
Anyway, I picked up some 220 Sierras (for only $21.50!!!!) and I'll shoot them till the A-Frames arrive (hopefully tomorrow).

I got a response from Johan with Ramshot/Accurate saying not to use 3100 or MagPro, as they are too slow. I say F-that, if RL22 isn't too slow, 3100 dang sure ain't. That being said, in doing a little research, mostly by stealing .300 WSM 200 gr loads, these make sense to me:
64-66 gr RL 17
64-67 gr of RL22
59-60 gr Big Game
61-62.5 gr of 760 or H414 (Hodgdon's recommendations always seem a little low, so we'll see how much higher we can go)
62 gr of 4007SSC
64-66 RL19
66-68 H4831SC
64-66.5 3100
68-70.5 gr N165
63-65 N160
72-74 Magpro
70 gr 780
60-63.5 IMR 4350
66-68 IMR 7828
64 gr Accurate 2700

Sierra's are great, cheap, accurate, practice bullets. I do that same thing with my .358- practice with Sierra's, shoot Noslers for real.

I salute your spirit of adventure, exbiologist, and will be very interested in what you find out! Be a little cautious extrapolating 300 WSM to 325 WSM... I was one of the first kids on the block with a .325 (my first one), and there was NO loading data out there for it yet, and I was surprised at how a few things I tried did NOT translate well from 300 WSM. Either by showing pressure signs, or by really not making the kind of speed you might have expected looking at the 300 WSM data.

Yeah, I've had both success and failure with the .264 Win Mag by stealing comoparable SD loads from the 7mm Rem Mag. Took a Vihtavouri N165 load from the 7mm Mag and spit a 130 Accubond out at 3425. It was a little hot!
I also shoot Speers for practice with the .264 and .358, then use same weight Partitions to resight and kill stuff.
But I for dang sure ain't gonna try all those loads, just a handful of the RL19-RL22 range. But if I get desperate, I have every one of those powders and I'll make something give me 2775-2800 with a 220. All this for a friend's gun, but I enjoy it.

Excellent news & thank you for the very useful info.

It's going to be a hard decision between a FW Model 70 in 325WSM or 338WM.


340

Except that the 325 is actually available and the 338 is merely cataloged.

new loads posted in the reloading section

Pardon my ignorance <tm>, but would a .338 Win Mag and a .325 WSM share the same action in the Winchester FW, or does Winchester have a WSM-length action?

If it's the same action I'd just go .338 WM. I have one of those too... love it, great cartridge.

The beauty of the WSM's lies in the compact rifles available. The power to weight and length ratio is really quite something in, say, my .325 WSM BLR, or my .325 Montana. Lots of oomph in a small, compact package.

In a full-length action, the WSM's don't really move me.

They use the short action.

And I don't think they'll ever do a .338 Featherweght. But they do have a .325 version.

I have a 338 WSM on a M70 action....Fat Bastid is it's name.

Dober

Markus, I forget... what speeds to you get with that bad boy?

How's biz? Had a fat one fall in my lap last week... knock on wood, might be able to keep shoes on the kid's feet after all!

The 338WM FW will be out next year! I hope