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Alliant says their maximum load for Re-19 with a 165 gr. Nosler Partition is 62.1 grs. for 2890 fps. with Federal cases. Sierra says their maximum load for their 165 gr. bullets with Re-19, again with Federal cases, which are heavier than say WW, is about 56.8 grs. for 2800 fps. That was with a 26 inch barrel. Other sources, using WW brass, and powders with similar burn rates, like IMR 4831, do list velocities as low as 2500-2700 fps. If you have no chrono to test your ammo, I suggest you see how much the bullet drops at extended ranges. E

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57GR. IMR 4350 sierra 165GR. game king BTHP extremely accurate and extremely deadly,,,,,,,,,,,,

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54 gr. of big game, 168gr. BT silver tips. 2800 fps+/-. Tikka T3


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Ive been shooting 165 SGK over 57.5 gr. IMR 4350 about 2780 out of my 22 inch barrel. Shoots about .75 on average out of my factory rem barrel cut to 22in. Stuff always dies when hit.

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17 pages of loads. Oh my.

57 grains of IMR 4350, federal cases, Remington 9.5 primer under a 180 grain partition. The older I get the heavier I prefer my bullets.

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58.0grs of Accurate 4350,3030fps with a 168gr Nosler Ballistic Tip out of my 28" Pac-Nor barreled 30-06.


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Originally Posted by baldhunter
58.0grs of Accurate 4350,3030fps with a 168gr Nosler Ballistic Tip out of my 28" Pac-Nor barreled 30-06.

Same load out of my Remington Long Range 30-06 26" barrel....2840fps.....Looks like the custom barrel with a couple extra inches may make a big difference.


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58.5gr of RL16 3030fps with 150gr Accubond WLR primer Win case 3.260 OAL.
57gr of RL16 2976fps with 165gr Accubond CCI250 primer R/P cases 3.260 OAL
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I was messing around with the Sierra 165 gr. Game King BTHP this weekend and was impressed as always with it's accuracy. Much as I like the various 4350s and the velocity they give IMR 4064 is no slouch! The attached file shows my eight shot group @100 yards (one inch target sticker).

This load is over the Sierra maximum but I'm using higher capacity Norma brass and I worked up. My chronograph batteries crapped out so I'll have to chronograph it later. Sorry!

Gun: Tikka T3 Lite 30-06 22 inch bbl.

Bullet: Sierra 165 gr. HPBT Game King
Powder: IMR 4064 50.0 grs.
Primer: Federal 210
Case: Norma
LOAL: 3.188 (2.713 with Stoney Point)

Here's a similar load I chronographed earlier.

Bullet: Speer 165 gr. BTSP
Powder: IMR-4064 50.0 grs.
Primer: Federal 210
Case: Norma
LOAL: 3.300 (2.691 base to ogive with Stoney Point gage)
Avg. Velocity: 2673.02 fps
Extreme Spread: 22.45
Standard Deviation: 9.16

An 8-shot group at 100 yards.

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Went back this weekend and checked the above load with my chronograph.

Bullet: Sierra 165 gr. HPBT Game King
Powder: IMR-4064 50.0 grs.
Primer: Federal 210
Case: Norma
LOAL: 3.188 (2.713 with Stoney Point)
Avg. Velocity: 2730.07 fps
Extreme Spread: 30.06
Standard Deviation: 11.09

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Last month I checked a load on my chronograph. It was 65gr of RL26 165gr Ballistic Tip 215M primer Win cases 3.280 OAL
the 30/06 got an average of 3003fps. Rifle had less than 200 rounds thru 24" barrel. Norma MRP was also over 3000fps.
both loads were compressed. So far the RL26 load was the most accurate I,ve gotten with that powder in any rifle.

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+1 on IMR 4064, I get great accuracy with it not only in my .30-06 but also in my .257 Roberts and .35 Whelen. It has been my go to powder for quite some time now, while I also use IMR 4350, RL-15 and Varget none of these gives as good accuracy as IMR 4064. I used IMR 4064 to develop a load for my .35 Whelen more than 25 years ago, prior to last fall's hunting season I did extensive load development for all three rifles, IMR 4064 was still the powder that gave the best accuracy. I use it with 100 grain bullets in the Roberts, 165 grain in the .30-06 and 225 grainers in the .35 Whelen, I'm sure it would work well with other bullets weights those are just my choices. Try it, I'm sure you'll like it.

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Reading through this long thread I saw a load for 52gr of IMR 4064 behind 150gr bullets. I have had decent shooting 150gr loads before but nothing stellar. After shooting the IMR 4064 load, wow. Put 3 in just under 3/4". Reloaded 7 more and put all 7 into a group just over 1 1/4", one right after the other and on a day when the wind was whipping ~15mph no less. I always thought my rifle just liked 180's but I have since changed my mind. Need to try it with some 165's now - I have a new favorite load for 150's. WW brass, CCI 200 primers, 52gr of IMR4064 and a Hornady 150gr SP. And as a bonus IMR4064 is cheap - a local shop has lots of it for 22.99/lb.


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Confirmed accuracy of above load on less windy day - first group small cloverleaf, second - two touching 1 just outside just a tad over 1/2". Amazing accuracy from an 80 year old rifle and 3-9 hunting scope.


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IMR 4064 has been my go to powder for 125 gr and 150 gr bullets in the .30-06 for over 50 years. 52.0 gr with a 150 gr Sierra or Ballistic Tip and 55.0 gr with a 126 gr bullet have always shot under an inch in just about every .30-06 I have tried them in. I have tried other powders but have had no reason to change. The 150 gr load comes close to 3000 FPS in a 24-inch barrel of a sporterized 1903 Springfield with original barrel and shoots under an inch all day long.

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Nosler rifle, 24” barrel. Nosler 165 ballistic tips, pushed by R-17, 56gr, to 2920 FPS. Federal 210 primer, 5 shots .70” group at 100 yards.

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Went to range today with 30/06 and 270 Winchester.

Best 30/06 load with 63.0gr of Norma MRP 165gr Trophy Bonded Tipped. 215M primers and Win cases
Got 3027fps with SD of 4.6. Load was most accurate of 3 loads I shot. Then New LabRadar Quit. Rifle
was Weatherby Mark 5 with 24" barrel. Over all length of shell was 3.280 when I load to 3.340 bullets
stick in barrel. Must be short chamber.

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I have had a couple of stand out loads that are very uniform in their accuracy which is very sub MOA in my Model 70 Featherweight.
150 Partition over 62 grains of H 4350 and CCI 200 primer and 175gn Barnes LRX over 60 grains of H 4350 and the same primer.

Work up from below and maybe they will shine in your own .30/06.
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Funny, I see a lot of fans of the 52gr load of IMR 4064. That's my recipe for this year's hunt with a 150gr Speer HotCor. My rifle seems to like the Hornady Interlock a bit better, but I'm out of those and the Speers only open up the group slightly.

Over the years I've found my most accurate loads were 48gr of IMR4064 with a 180gr Speer RN, 48gr of IMR4320 with a 150gr Hornady iInterlock (mild load btw), 52gr of IMR 4064 with 150gr Speer or Hornady, and 55 or 56gr of IMR4350 with a 180gr Sierra Spitzer Flat Base. For a 30/30 equivalent type load I've also done 43.5gr of IMR4320. Very mild and accurate. Took a little white-tail a few years ago with it and it dropped just like all the other loads I've listed.

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