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#11895399 - 03/13/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: GrizzlyBear]  
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One thing i have noted though with Reloder 17 is that it hides pressure signs. Until you are WAY past high pressure.
But if you use current published data in calibers it likes it is still pretty dang good. Creedmores, .260s and medium 6 mms ( 6XC,6 Creedmore , 6x47L)really like it.
Just my humble opinion............

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#11895470 - 03/13/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: wyoming260]  
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Originally Posted by wyoming260
One thing i have noted though with Reloder 17 is that it hides pressure signs. Until you are WAY past high pressure.
But if you use current published data in calibers it likes it is still pretty dang good. Creedmores, .260s and medium 6 mms ( 6XC,6 Creedmore , 6x47L)really like it.
Just my humble opinion............

Yep, that smooth pressure curve can be a double edged sword.

Great performance without pressure signs.

Is it a stealth powder that could be off the charts when pressure signs do show up?

Some discussion, no real consensus on temp sensitivity, different answers/different applications.

All said, I like RL-17. Ya just gotta understand it.

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#11895886 - 03/13/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: GrizzlyBear]  
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I'd swap it in a heartbeat but for the shipping problem.

Different strokes.

#11896924 - 03/13/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: pbcaster45]  
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Impressive groups. Looks like you've got the right recipe.👍

My Ruger #1A is particularly fond of 165 Hornady SP's (flat base), seated .03" short of the lands, with 58 gr. of H4350 stuffed into Rem. brass & sparked by Fed. 210 match primers. Velocity from the 22" barrel averages 2838 fps. and (3-shot) groups average about 1" at 100 m. (sometimes a bit more - sometimes a bit less - depending on my 70 yr. old diabetic eyes). I've used this rifle/load combo for years and have killed a few truck loads of white tails and muleys with it.





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#11908321 - 03/18/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: GrizzlyBear]  
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Worked up a load for my Kimber Montana, 55 grains of Varget with 125 gr Nosler Accubond, 3050 fps Indiana first deer season with larger caliber rifles this combo worked great.


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#11921712 - 03/23/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: GrizzlyBear]  
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At 300 yards today, about 53 degrees F. Prone, over the pack:

[Linked Image]

53 grains of H4350, R-P brass, CCI large rifle primers.

Three shots on the 300 yard gong, spread of about 2.5" and the 200 gr Partitions were averaging 2612 fps. That first round hit, the gong rang, and I got a big ol' grin on my face. I wish I'd explored 200 gr bullets for the .30-06 long ago. My rifle & ammo did well last season with 165 grain Ballistic Tips at 2900 fps, but I think this load would have been even better, particularly on the bear and elk.

JB/Mule Deer mentioned that this bullet penetrated well and worked great on a wide variety of big game, but I never anticipated such accuracy!

Regards, Guy

#11921722 - 03/23/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: GuyM]  
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Originally Posted by GuyM
At 300 yards today, about 53 degrees F. Prone, over the pack:

[Linked Image]

53 grains of H4350, R-P brass, CCI large rifle primers.

Three shots on the 300 yard gong, spread of about 2.5" and the 200 gr Partitions were averaging 2612 fps. That first round hit, the gong rang, and I got a big ol' grin on my face. I wish I'd explored 200 gr bullets for the .30-06 long ago. My rifle & ammo did well last season with 165 grain Ballistic Tips at 2900 fps, but I think this load would have been even better, particularly on the bear and elk.

JB/Mule Deer mentioned that this bullet penetrated well and worked great on a wide variety of big game, but I never anticipated such accuracy!

Regards, Guy


Great shooting Guy and beautiful rifle there. I too have been playing around with the 200gr. partition. I was low on H4350 since it hasn't been around here in a few years, so I went back to my go to powder (IMR4350). Here's how my old 1917 does with that excellent 200gr partition, sans the buck and bull I also shot with this set-up:

[Linked Image]
My pre 64 model 70 fwt also loves this load...




Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.


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#11924205 - 03/24/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: GrizzlyBear]  
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I've not run it yet, but plan to soon and someone was asking about the 26/210 lrab

Originally Posted by steve4102
Code
  Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 210, Nosler AccuBond 58317
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   87    48.00   2132    2120   28624   8401     93.0    1.692
-18.0   89    49.20   2193    2243   30771   8666     94.5    1.644
-16.0   91    50.40   2254    2369   33099   8913     95.7    1.596
-14.0   93    51.60   2315    2500   35629   9138     96.9    1.550
-12.0   96    52.80   2377    2634   38373   9340     97.8    1.500
-10.0   98    54.00   2438    2772   41381   9518     98.6    1.447
-08.0  100    55.20   2499    2913   44658   9668     99.2    1.397
-06.0  102    56.40   2561    3057   48242   9790     99.7    1.348
-04.0  104    57.60   2621    3204   52168   9882     99.9    1.301  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  107    58.80   2682    3354   56486   9943    100.0    1.256  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  109    60.00   2742    3505   61238   9986    100.0    1.212  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  111    61.20   2801    3659   66488  10024    100.0    1.170  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  113    62.40   2861    3816   72299  10057    100.0    1.129  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  115    63.60   2920    3975   78761  10084    100.0    1.090  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  117    64.80   2979    4138   85970  10104    100.0    1.051  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  120    66.00   3038    4304   94041  10117    100.0    1.015  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    109    60.00   2866    3831   78106   9459    100.0    1.110  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    109    60.00   2546    3023   47811  10294     97.0    1.349 


Originally Posted by BrentD

I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
#11963028 - 04/10/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: GrizzlyBear]  
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My favorite 30-06 loads are:
1) 150 grain bullets - 52 grains of IMR 4064
2) 165-168 grain bullets - 57 grains of IMR 4350
3) 180 grain bullets - 58 grains of Hunter.

The first two loads have been quoted by several gun writers - Ken Waters, John Barsness to name two. The last comes from Barsness, and I tried it - it's a good one. It shot great in my Tikka M695 with 1 in 11" twist. I loaded the second one for two friends who don't handload. They were happy with the results. I loaded Barnes 168 grain TSXs for them.


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#11976777 - 04/16/17 Re: Good 30/06 Loads [Re: GrizzlyBear]  
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A 165gr Nosler Accubond pushed by 58gr H4350 for a muzzle velocity of 2860 fps was always my "go to" in my custom barreled 30.06(25" Pac Nor). Accuracy has always been stellar with this load producing consistent 3/4"( or better) 3-shot groups at 100 yds.

But, difficulty finding H4350 has caused me to start experimenting with Alliant's newer RL-16. Boy am I glad I did. This past weekend I found that 57gr of RL-16 will put 3 165gr Accubonds into 0.6" at 100 yds at 2915 fps over my chronograph. 57.4gr(Alliant's Max) produced 2942 fps! First 2 shots went into 1 ragged hole! I pulled the 3rd shot an inch to the right, so I'll need to confirm accuracy again on that one. I'll add that the ES and SD on these two RL-16 recipes were in the single digits! Temp was 81 degrees while shooting.

Temperature stability and de-coppering agent to boot with RL-16!

Looks like I may not need H4350 in the future!😁

Leftybolt

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