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I love the 264, have a nice M70 that really shoots. Also have experience w/ 270 Wby. It might be heresy, but I'd go w/ the Weatherby. Case capacity slightly more, I like the long neck better, factory ammo is first rate.

The only reason my 270 Wby hit the road is that particular rifle (Mk V) did not shoot as well as the 264 (a factor of the individual rifles, not the cartridge).

In handloading, I will tell you that the 264 is a bit finicky, and will print different loads to significantly different points of impact. Not a big deal for me, as I find the load I like and stick to it.

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The 270 Roy . " Why not the best ? " grin


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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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If I wanted a 270Wby, I would just build a 270WSM and eliminate expensive brass, a belted case and a longer action and still have the same ballistics.


Not quite
270 WSM is a little warmer then a regular 270 win .

If it were my choice it would be the 270WBY or the 257 WBY


I guess it depends on your definition of "little," and how "warm" you load your 270 win. I have owned four different 270WSM's and two different 270Wby rifles. The only significant gain in velocity in the Wby was with 150 grain bullets, and that amounted to about 120fps. The one and only 270 Win I own shoots almost 300fps slower than the average of my 270WSM's using the same projectile. Sure, it's a small sample of 6-7 rifles, but the results are real. I understand that the WSM's are not a hot commodity on this forum, and I am not saying that they are the greatest thing since cold beer either. What I am saying is that it is possible for someone, not you specifically, to be biased, one way or the other, for certain rifles and/or cartridges, and that can end up misleading others who read the thread.

Just for information, here are my load results:

270 Win, 140 Accubond, 2984fps 22" bbl-1 gun average
270WSM, 140 Accubond, 3260 fps 24" bbl-4 gun average
270Wby, 140 TSX, 3275 fps 26" bbl-2 gun average

These were what I considered max in each rifle, and were final hunting loads with acceptable accuracy. No load is over published maximum.

With that aside, the .264 Win Mag still sounds like fun, and I would also like to try the .257 Wby.

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Been shooting and developing the heck out of some handloads in my .264 Win Mag. I've never had a .270 Wby, but from what I hear, Weatherby/Norma actually load it to its potential. Factory Rem and Winchester is supposed to be nowhere close. I can get just under 3300 (more like 3275) with 140s, 3425 with 130 Accubonds, 3515 with 120 TTSXs, and 3800 with 100 gr Nosler Ballistic Tips. However, 140 grain factory Power Points shoot 3200 in my gun, which has 27.5" barrel.
The accuracy load was 7828 and 100 gr Ballistic Tips. Shot 1/3 inch. Then screwed the gun up by making a longer throat-gained 75-100 fps, but lost some accuracy. Gonna try again this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Landrum
Let's say that it was going to be a custom rifle throated to your specifications (minimal freebore) and you planned on hand loading for it.
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I personally wouldn't want to do that because some unsuspecting soul may inadvertenly fire a factory round in it! The factory Weeatherby ammo is high pressure stuff that needs the freebore.
So my picks in order would be the Weatherby with freebore, 270 WSM, 264 Win.

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Winchester made them in 270 and 300 roy in the early 90s I think. My 264 was bought new in 98. The only difference between these 2 is slighty different stock shape and finish.
They both have 26" bbls.

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Nice looking rifle exBio, especially with that dead elk under it! smile


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270 WBY
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Weatherby 130 gr. X 3400 plus FPS
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After re-reading this thread:
I wouldn't mind having one of each-I love my 270Roy's, but have been intrigued by the idea of a 264 Winny for years.
Nevermind that they have serious overlap with each other as concerns capabilities.


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Originally Posted by safariman
More like make it obsolete. Better get you one!


That is certainly true!
However, I really like my 6.5X55(a Win classic FWT with a Mickey stock)-I don't ever see not having that rifle around and shooting it frequently.


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I had the exact option and I chose the 264 WM. The Weatherby was a MK V Dlx and the Win was a M 70 XTR-unfired. I havent regretted my decision and doubt I ever will. Here is a pic from last years Kansas killing spree.

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I would go with the 270 Wea. I have experience with 3 MkVs in 270WM and all were superb shooters. A max load of R22 pushing 150 HDY FBILs at 3265 is heck on deer. The Wea factory ammo is very pricey, but loaded very well.

That said, I'd go with a 7RM before either of them. I have 3 in the safe right now, so I guess you could say I'm alittle biased smile

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For me, these decisions tend to boil down to the bullets--are there bullets in either caliber that I am looking to use? I built a 6.5-284 because there are many neat .264 bullets that come from the use of that bore as the standard 300m ISU target caliber. By the same token, the .284 bullets have high BC. So for me, I have a lot more going on in .264 and .284 than in .277.

So I would choose the .264 Win. But if I had the hots for throwing the 110 TSX at about 3500 fps, then I would get the hots for the 270 Roy, short throated.

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Originally Posted by Landrum
If you could have one or the other, which would it be? Let's say that it was going to be a custom rifle throated to your specifications (minimal freebore) and you planned on hand loading for it.

I've always wanted a 270 Wby but lately I have been giving some thought to the 264. Which way would you go?

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Neither cartridge is that popular. I would not want a short throated 270 Weatherby as then pressures might be high with factory loads and handloading data for that matter.

To me the Weatherby was about those inlays in the stocks, forend tips at an angle and the free bore to get a few FPS more. I prefer traditional rifles. I have a Westerner.

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Wow, that's horribly gaudy.


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I have owned and hunted with both. If you can shoot, both will do the same things. Flip a coin.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I have owned and hunted with both. If you can shoot, both will do the same things. Flip a coin.


If you had to choose one on the "ammo availability" issue, which so often comes up, which would it be?


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I would go with the .270 Roy. The barrel will last longer.


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Either, both. Interesting responses so far.


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