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What caliber of Savage reloading tool(s) do you have? This is Savage brand, only (no Winchester, Lyman, etc.).

How many of the boxes they were shipped in do you have? (NOTE: This poll box is not current nor working correctly)

Savage 1904 Reloading Tool
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Rick, I have a really nice tool case colors and blue are perfect! but i don't have a single die for it! frown frown . Don

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Have now or does the one I traded off ten years ago count?


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Lets go with the "have now". smile



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Can we talk straight eight presses and shotshell presses? I have two of each (including those I left at the east fest). I also have no Savage reloading dies for my rifle presses.


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I have five (Savage model 1904) 303 tools, two 38-55 tools and one 25-35 tool. One 303 set is in the original box with decapper, charge cup and original instructions. Box has end label but top label is gone, interior label on top remains.
One of the 303 tools has replacement wood on the handle... probably from an old scythe. 25-35 tool has a slight modification to the die to apparently allow for seating round nose or pointed bullets.
I have never seen a 30-30 or 32-40 Savage 1904 tool.
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Well between,BillR, Rick99, and Fug we know where they all are. grin Don

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I entered one 25-35, one 303, one 38-55 and one box.
Rick, can you add the other 38-55 and four 303 tools. Poll won't allow me to "vote" more than once.
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Thanks for the extras, Bill. I thought there had to be more .303 tools some where.

I heard that the poll would only take one of each, so... if anyone else has tools they could not post please let me know (post or PM) and I will keep tally.

We are at:
.303 ... 12
.30-30... 5
.25-35... 4
.32-40... 3
.38-55... 5
box...... 4

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What was the first and last catalog (dates?) for these tools to be offered for sale?
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1903-1907. After 1907 there was no info listed on reloading of any kind.


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I saw another on the weekend (not for sale) that was in 303 savage as well.
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We are at:
.303 ... 13
.30-30... 5
.25-35... 4
.32-40... 3
.38-55... 5
box...... 4

I thought the .30-30 was the hard one to find as that is the one that I am missing. But looks like it might be the .32-40 which would be the same as in the rifles.


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Take out the boxes and calculate percentage.

303 43.3%
30-30 16.7%
25-35 13.3%
32-40 10.0%
38-55 16.7%

These results are based on only 30 tools. There must be more data available. Does anyone have access to the antique tool collector's sight? (they charge $35/year now) Maybe a survey of their members would generate a larger sample.

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rick i have 41/2 tools 3.303,1 with out die,1.32-40


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Thanks John.

.303 ... 17 ... 48.6%
.30-30... 5 ... 14.3%
.25-35... 4 ... 11.4%
.32-40... 4 ... 11.4%
.38-55... 5 ... 14.3%
box...... 4


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a fellow gun club member has a set of what he says are 4 shotgun gauges but he's a newbie and I'm guessing rifle It has a box but I havent seen them Any suggested value? I hope to see then tomorrow

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Let use know what you see. Savage sold reloading equipment after WWII. It might be later stuff.


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Add to my list that I have the conversion kits to load 28, 20 and 12 gauge shells, all Savage brand. Looking for the ever elusive 410 kit.


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Here is one on eBay right now I believe...??? If I am wrong... Oh well...!!! I "DO NOT CARE" that it is a live auction...!!!


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WOW!!!! Look at that price!!!


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There is still room to grow.


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Rick did you pick up that box that I PMed you about?


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Box and #2 shell holder from the '50's...I passed.


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I see the Savage 1904 tool in 38-55 (6/10 condition???) sold for $383.69 US.
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I have been told that all reloading tools were not marked. Both of mine in 303 sav have been marked on the handle side of the frame below the hinge point (sav 303) as shown in the photo below. Does anyone know when they stopped marking the calibers on the handles / frames? Will the handle only work for one caliber?

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The frames of the Win cal tools were not marked w/calibers. Just the dies.


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Blair I can not help you with that but there was a reloading tool for sale at James Julia wth what I thought was a VERY high price of something like $1200-1400... I think it was in 25-35... did not see what it actually sold for.

was waiting for the auction to post about it for the count...


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The .303's handles were marked while handles of other calibers were not. I have seen no indiction that there were .303's that were not marked. Seperate dies could be purchased so the answer is yes they are interchangable.


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OMG! shocked

$787.77

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280479853635

I thought this would go for about $500, boy was I low.

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That went cheap. It's worth 1K easy. It's got condition.


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Very few boxes survived.


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Just checking my Savage 1904 tool's markings.
Body Die

1 SAV 303 SAV 303
2 SAV 303 SAV 303
3 SAV 303 SAV 303
4 SAV 303 303
5 none SAV 303
6 none 38-55
7 none 38-55
8 none 25-35

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#4 - the die is only marked "303"?


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Correct, the die only has "303" on it. The handle has "SAV 303".

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are the dies interchangeable to the handles?


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I see that in the Canadian version of Savage Arms Company #15 that the tool sets cost $4.00 for the complete tool and extractor. The cost of another die was $2.60 plus 35 cents for the cap extractor.
Bullet molds were offered for 25-35 (86 gr), 30-30 (100 gr), 303 (100 gr), 32-40 (98 gr) and 38-55 (155 gr) in regular short range bullets only,no picture of mold is shown.
Any idea of year of catalogue #15??
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That catalog lists the 1903 Gallery and speaks of the 1904 World Fair as being in the past. I think the #15 catalog is from 1905, maybe 1906.


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I have a 30-30 and 303 sav that can be added to the list. No decaping pins or boxes, just the tools and dies.

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.303 ... 18 ... 45.0%
.30-30... 6 ... 15.0%
.25-35... 5 ... 12.5%
.32-40... 4 ... 10.0%
.38-55... 7 ... 17.5%
box...... 5


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Picked up a few more over the past while and a second 30-30 yesterday. So I now have 38-55, 32-40, 303 sav (counted) 2 - 30-30 (one counted one not) and a 303 sav handle (marked sav 303). If anyone is interested in trading a set of 25-35 dies for my extra 30-30 dies let me know, it would be great to have the entire set. Here are the pictures. From left to right in the group picture 38-55, 32-40, 303 sav, 30-30, 30-30, 303 sav handle.

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38-55, 32-40

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The tag on the 38-55 handle

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If I had an extra we would be working a deal.


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Rick,

Now you can keep your eye out for 30-30 and 25-35. Will increase your chances of getting them all.

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Blair, One of these days i may find some of that stuff!!! Don

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Salter has a 303 tool on his site at this time. It is marked simply 303 on the die as is one of mine. Condition less than average. Asking $375.
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Rick,
Not sure if you are still keeping track but I managed
(thanks to Gene B.) to pickup a very nice 303 on Saturday at the OGCA show.
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I have five 303 tools, two 38-55 tools and one 25-35 tool. One 303 set is in the original box with decapper, charge cup and original instructions. Box has end label but top label is gone, interior label on top remains.

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303 Savage (24) 46.2%
30-30 (7) 13.5%
25-35 (6) 11.5%
32-40 (5) 9.6%
38-55 (10) 19.2%

Total 52 Tools

jackpollard indicated that:
I have five 303 tools, two 38-55 tools and one 25-35 tool. One 303 set is in the original box with decapper, charge cup and original instructions. Box has end label but top label is gone, interior label on top remains.

This is identical to my collection as to number of tools and calibers... including the box set decapper, charge cup, original instructions and condition of the box, mine has end label, no top label but has interior label on top as well.

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I wonder what the probablity of that happening is?


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I think I need someone to sell me a 32-40 tool as soon as possible to end this deadlock.
The fact that both our boxes are missing the top label makes me wonder what they looked like and how the label was attached.
The relatively low number of 30-30 in 1904 savage tools reflects the same as in 1894 Winchester loading tools. While not rare they are scarce likely due to 30-30 being seen predominantly as a smokeless powder round.
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Not a 1904 tool, but an 1895 savage 303 tool made by Ideal.

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For all of you wondering who the loonie was that bid through the roof on ebay for an Ideal 303 sav tool, you now know who it was grin

Up to the end I was pretty sure I was going to get it for a steal, but unfortunately a couple of other bidders knew what it was, oh well!

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2***303***2**3030***1***3240***1***2535 need a 25/36 for a marlin

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I update the number of each plus a couple more that I have seen:

303 Savage (27) 50%
30-30 (8) 14.8%
25-35 (6) 11.1%
32-40 (5) 9.3%
38-55 (8) 14.8%

Total 54 Tools/ March 21 2013

If you have one or more please add.
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I wounder if some one could e-mail me a copy of the directions for using the the savage loading tool.
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I have a 303 savage tool.

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Originally Posted by jercon

I wounder if some one could e-mail me a copy of the directions for using the the savage loading tool.
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I sent him one, Steve. smile


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I'm looking to buy a 32-40 to complete my set. Any body out there got one for sale please PM me. Thanks.
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I'm looking for just a die (any caliber) if anyone has a double they want to sell or trade.


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I now know of three people who have a set of handles and are looking for a die to complete the set.
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Still looking for a 32-40 loader. Anybody bringing one for sale to the 2014Fest?

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There was one on E-Bay 1 Week ago with A Buy it Now for 850.00
Lasted 1 Day.
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Hard to believe what folks will pay for some of this stuff!

That is right up there with powder cans.......

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The last one I got in a box was a lot more than that!!!

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All i have is one tool with no dies!! blush blush every time i look at the price of a reloading tool i end up buying a rifle instead !! grin

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Add a savage reloading tool and a 30-30 die! 1904 type! just picked one up at a gun show, here in Michigan!


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Please add one in 32-40 that just came to life!!

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Dec 29/2014 1904 Savage Tools reported

303 27 50.8%
30-30 9 15.2%
25-35 6 10.2%
32-40 6 10.2%
38-55 8 13.6%

Total 59 100%

Anyone else have one that they haven't shared?

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Rick add another 1904 reloading tool but No die,its not marked for a Cal. For sale here in the Class!


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Did anybody here score that 1904 tool for .38-55 on eBay a couple days ago?


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.303 for sale at Tulsa show, $700. Excellent condition. Tool was not marked .303 SAV., die was.


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Please add a 38-55 1904 tool

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Leroy Merz has a 303 and a 38-55 tool currently for sale. Records indicate just over 50% are 303 and 32-40 is the scarcest.
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Happy to report I finally acquired a 32-40 to complete my collection of all five calibers. Thanks to the many collector friends who helped make it happen.
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Originally Posted by cmhjohn
Happy to report I finally acquired a 32-40 to complete my collection of all five calibers. Thanks to the many collector friends who helped make it happen.
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Outstanding John. Congrats.


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Scored a 38-55 Win today.


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It's been over a years since anyone had posted a buy. Good deal.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2

Limited audience. Not a lot of takers to your question.
I read all comments to this thread so I would not be surprised at ~$1k +/-.
As always, rarity and condition apply.
.303 appears to be most common. Win. calibers are less common. Partial? complete? Box? condition?
If a .300EG is a good start collecting rifles, a .303 is probably a good start with Savage loading tools. Key word "start". smile


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Only comment I would add is that the condition and rarity is way over stated for this particular item.
Rare caliber in mint condition will bring 1k plus.

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Have one in excellent condition. 303 cal. Someone have instruction how to use Them? Can't find anything on google..regards

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PM your e-mail and I will send you a copy of the instructions that is high enough resolution that you can read. Or e-mail me direct... click my name at left side and go to View Profile.


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I have many reloading items by Savage.
4 shotshell presses, 410,20,16 and 12.Two original shipping boxes with all the Savage labels Also conversion kits for 20, 16, and 12 in original boxes, Shot sleeves: 7/8oz, 1oz and1 1/8 oz in original boxes. Powder sleeves labeled E,M and H all in orig boxes.

One straight eight press with shell holders # 2, 4, 7 and 12 in original boxes. Dies: 284 win,225 win,357 mag, 222 mag, 30-30 and 6 mm rem all in orig boxes.

Most of the above items in boxes are new, never used.

Also have many parts for the shot press. Any one needing parts, let me know and if I have them , I will send them no charge.

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Originally Posted by dsr1935
I have many reloading items by Savage.
4 shotshell presses, 410,20,16 and 12.Two original shipping boxes with all the Savage labels Also conversion kits for 20, 16, and 12 in original boxes, Shot sleeves: 7/8oz, 1oz and1 1/8 oz in original boxes. Powder sleeves labeled E,M and H all in orig boxes.

One straight eight press with shell holders # 2, 4, 7 and 12 in original boxes. Dies: 284 win,225 win,357 mag, 222 mag, 30-30 and 6 mm rem all in orig boxes.

Most of the above items in boxes are new, never used.

Also have many parts for the shot press. Any one needing parts, let me know and if I have them , I will send them no charge.



What would a guy have to do to talk you out of the Savage 284 dies?


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One straight eight press with shell holders # 2, 4, 7 and 12 in original boxes. Dies: 284 win,225 win,357 mag, 222 mag, 30-30 and 6 mm rem all in orig boxes.




I have (and routinely use) my Savage Straight 8 press .

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I have a straight eight press also. Use it for seating bullets and use the RCBS's for the hard stuff. I really like it.


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