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Ruger No. 1-A 7x57, shooting Federal Premium 140gr Nosler Partitions.

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For me, the 7x57 round is a case of, "I wish I knew then what I know now." Thirty years ago I would have bought one for myself. As it is I have bought 2 Rugers; a model 77 for my younger daughter, and a #1 RSI for my younger son. They are both great rifles and fun to shoot.

Both rifles seem to like what we have fed them so far: Hornady 154 gr Interbond, 160 gr Nosler Partitions, 140 gr Barnes TSX, and 120 gr Nosler Ballistic tips.

The model 77 is very accurate with Hornady 156 grain Interbond bullets. I don't recall the powder I used for the load.

The #1 also shoots well, although when the barrel gets hot, the shots begin to creep to the right. We have also found the the #1 will take heavy loads with no signs of over pressure.

One other side note: I read years ago in a Field & Stream magazine a side bar article on custom made rifles and the most popular calibers people ask for. The 1st choice was the 7x57 Mauser. Followed in order by the .30-06, .270 Win., and the 375 H&H.


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My cousin uses a 7x57 with 160 gr. Speer Grand Slams. It is a older M70 Winchester, the push feed variety. Shoots great. No real recoil and very effective on game. He used it on a S.A. safari for everything up through kudu and gemsbok, no problems.

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The 7x57 can often be a cartrige you come back to. I tried it in eh early 80's for a few years and missed it when I let it go simply because I recalled the high percentage of DRT's with deer sized game, compared to he miriad of other cartridges I was also using atthe time.

Whe the next one came along, it was a keeper.

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The 7X57 is my all time favorite hunting cartridge. It's built to feed, easy on the shoulder and kills far better than it looks like it would. I own 3 for some reason, hadn't figured that part out yet. :^)

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The 7x57 is one of my favorite cartridges. Period. The only other that might tie for first place with me is 6.5x55. The 7 is fun to load for, shoots sub-moa for me consistently and easily and has been a stone killer with all 1-shot kills. The farthest I've tracked a deer shot with it is 20 feet over a shoulder into a greenbrier patch. The blood trail was huge. It's easy to shoot and effective. A little more pop to it than the 6.5. I am hunting exclusively with Hornady 139's. Very adequate for my needs but I wouldn't hesitate to go to 150's or heavier bullets if I needed to for larger game.

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One other thought....is anyone using IMR 4350 for their 7x57? Recipes?

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I don't use IMR powders any more, but I use H4350 for all bullet weights in my 7x57s. You can squeeze a few more fips out of 160 and 175 grainers with something that burns a bit slower, like 4831, but 4350 does well enough for me. No complaints from all the dead animals either.

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Hello,

My first BG Rifle was a 7x57, an Original DWM Sporting Rifle, made on a 1893 Action. I still have it in its original rust bluing and stock. A delightful rifle from my Great Grand Father still capable of 1,5" at 100 m specially with IMR or AA 4350 in spite of a rather eroded throat. It is now semi-retired. My actual and "new" 7x57 is a Mauser 98 (1935 Argentine model) in its original military stock, reformed a la Sporting Mauser or Rigby. Beautiful walnut ! And the barrel is also an unused military Chilean Steyr 1912. A true 1" rifle with full power 160 and 175 bullets at 2800 and 2650 f/s. With R 22 in Winchester cases.
My favorite cartridge and rifle. Along a .375 H&H Winchester 70 Pre-64 (1954) it covers all my hunting rifle needs.

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Originally Posted by OldRooster
One other thought....is anyone using IMR 4350 for their 7x57? Recipes?


Yup.

154 gr. Hornady Spire Point flat base
48 gr. IMR 4350
W-W brass
Federal 210 primer

Warm load, use caution in short-throated rifles.

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Thanks for the replies. Big Redhead, any particular reason for not using the IMR's? My CZ shoots the IMR 4350 behind a Hornady 139 very well - touching cloverleafs at 100 yds. The velocity data I've picked up over the last several years is all over the place for a given weight powder charge, like 100 to almost 200 f/s deviations with the 4350. I don't have a chrony so can't clock my own load. 48gr. seems to be a fairly stout load but no pressure signs. (My CZ 6.5 shooting 140's at a certain 2700+ are not as hefty a load.) It is a lightly compressed load. Going to 49 I'm spilling powder out of the case and it would be a more seriously compressed load. I've tried 3 types of brass looking for any noticeable difference in capacity. Can't figure out how some guys are stuffing in the loads they're writing about w/ IMR 4350. Also not sure that much compression is a good thing. I'm looking for some viable options to the IMR 4350 that seem to be consistently good with 140's and 154's and perhaps more predictable with a given charge weight and bullet.
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I will add one for those that are interested..The most overlooked bullet in the 7x57 for deer is the 130 gr. Speer, either the flat base or the boattail..It is the best deer bullet that I have used in the 7x57, it leaves a 50 cent size exit hole in everyone of them....I have used most of the bullets out there in the 7x57 I like the 130 speer for deer size game and the 160 gr. premium bullet for elk size game..I like the 175 gr. Nosler for the tough stuff or for shooting in thick stuff..

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Ray - I may well look at the Speers. I bought a good sized bunch of Speer bullets - I want to say Grand Slam but that may be wrong - several years back for my '06's. They did not like to shoot those bullets. Just went to Hornady and Sierra and had very good results. Got lazy and haven't explored much farther than that.

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Grew up shooting lots of Speers... Little thing called a Juenke explained why so many rifles shot so poorly for so many years. It has been surprising how few Noslers and especially Speers performed well on the comparator...

Riley just spun a box of Nosler BTs and two out of a box were worth shooting. A box of 250...
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Sitka - I was thinking about my experience with Nosler BT's when I wrote about the Speers. Tried them for two different calibers with mediocre results. And I've seen the BT's my friends use (mostly .30 caliber) cause a lot of meat loss/damage with what would appear to be some predictability. Again went back to Hornady and Sierra, etc., etc., in 7mm, 6.5, .30 and .257.

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Please fill me in on a Juenke. rooster

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Originally Posted by OldRooster
One other thought....is anyone using IMR 4350 for their 7x57? Recipes?


Not yet. I've been using W-760 which has worked well but I can't seem to find any 4350, either IMR or H around here. Last time I went to a gun shop and asked, the guy just laughed hysterically. frown
I quit useing extruded powders a long time ago as they were a total PITA in my powder measure. Now that I have an RCBS Chargemaster 1500, I'm slowing going back to the 4350s and 4831s and their ilk when I can find some.
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OldRooster, I have a M.98 sporter with a military barrel that shoots really well with just about anything. Last elk I killed was with 49 grains IMR-4350/150 NP in Norma cases sparked with WLR primers. This load produces slightly over 2700 fps and I can subsitute 154 Hornady for groups of 1 MOA and no pressure problems.


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Joe and Paul- Thanks for your posts. I've been thinking of picking up a can of W760 (H414)to try with the 7x57. A lot of guys have had good luck with it. (Besides, my '06 loves it.) How compressed is the 49 grain IMR 4350 load? You guys are giving me some good load data and I will enjoy working up new recipes. Rooster

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Ruger 1A, 150gn Sierra BT, H4350. I use it on pigs mainly but also taken my best fallow buck with it earlier this year.

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