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Weather didn't cooperate this weekend, so it'll be a week or so until I can get some results. Thanks for the info guys.


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I wonder what I could do with those in my 338/378 Bee. HMMMMMM


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Iraklion, thanks for the info. Results change much for a 26" tube? Also I have been thinking about trying Ramshot Hunter, can you run the numbers for that from 65 to 80 grains?

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Cartridge : .338 Win Mag.
Bullet : .338, 160, Barnes 'X' S 33878
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 3.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-30.0 68 49.00 2411 2065 29249 6104 88.9 1.415
-27.0 71 51.10 2498 2217 31549 6413 90.4 1.371
-24.0 74 53.20 2584 2373 34023 6715 91.9 1.328
-21.0 77 55.30 2671 2534 36679 7008 93.3 1.287
-18.0 80 57.40 2757 2700 39531 7292 94.5 1.248
-15.0 83 59.50 2842 2870 42596 7562 95.7 1.210
-12.0 86 61.60 2928 3045 45934 7819 96.7 1.175
-09.0 88 63.70 3012 3224 49580 8059 97.6 1.140
-06.0 91 65.80 3097 3407 53562 8281 98.4 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 94 67.90 3181 3594 57910 8483 99.0 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 97 70.00 3264 3784 62660 8663 99.5 1.041 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 100 72.10 3346 3978 67855 8820 99.8 1.010 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 103 74.20 3428 4174 73541 8952 100.0 0.980 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+09.0 106 76.30 3509 4374 79774 9058 100.0 0.952 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+12.0 109 78.40 3589 4575 86620 9154 100.0 0.923 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+15.0 112 80.50 3668 4779 94155 9244 100.0 0.896 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 97 70.00 3378 4053 71603 8415 100.0 0.991 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 97 70.00 3107 3430 53959 8580 95.6 1.101 ! Near Maximum !





















Cartridge : .338 Win Mag.
Bullet : .338, 160, Barnes 'X' S 33878
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm
Powder : Ramshot Hunter

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 3.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-30.0 69 53.20 2305 1888 24668 5962 80.0 1.471
-27.0 72 55.48 2388 2027 26490 6311 81.8 1.429
-24.0 75 57.76 2473 2173 28486 6662 83.7 1.388
-21.0 78 60.04 2558 2326 30675 7011 85.5 1.347
-18.0 81 62.32 2645 2486 33077 7356 87.3 1.308
-15.0 84 64.60 2733 2654 35714 7695 89.0 1.270
-12.0 87 66.88 2822 2829 38613 8026 90.6 1.232
-09.0 90 69.16 2911 3011 41803 8345 92.1 1.195
-06.0 93 71.44 3002 3201 45318 8649 93.6 1.159
-03.0 96 73.72 3093 3398 49194 8936 94.9 1.124
+00.0 99 76.00 3184 3602 53489 9203 96.1 1.090 ! Near Maximum !
+03.0 102 78.28 3276 3813 58244 9447 97.1 1.056 ! Near Maximum !
+06.0 105 80.56 3368 4030 63528 9665 98.0 1.023 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+09.0 108 82.84 3460 4254 69415 9854 98.8 0.991 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+12.0 111 85.12 3553 4484 75994 10011 99.3 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+15.0 114 87.40 3645 4720 83373 10134 99.7 0.931 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 99 76.00 3348 3981 63440 9237 99.6 1.030 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 99 76.00 2979 3152 44767 8713 88.7 1.180

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Thanks for the info. Looks like there is little gain by going to Hunter over varget. I noticed that I am close to DANGEROUS according to quickload. I suppose considering the 10% adjustment it isnt quite so dangerous. I have noticed flattened primers but nothing else to indicate dangerous pressures. I will have to reload brass a few times to see how long it takes for primers to get loose.

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The blasted wind finally died down enough I could get out and shoot. I just shot 5 rounds I loaded up a few days ago, and I'm encouraged. 92 grains of H4350, Federal 215 primers, once fired brass, and an OAL of 3.6 gave me a 3/4" group at 100 yards. (discounting 2 called flyers). No signs of excessive pressure.

I'm going to load up some more at 93, 93.5, and 94 grains and se how they do this weekend. I've know idea of velocity, but once I settle on a load I'll borrow my buddies chrony and see how fast they're moving along.


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Well the light bullet experiment is on hold for me. I got what I thought was a sweet load, 93 grains H4350 at 3485 fps. At 100 yds it shot fine, but at 200 I was all over the paper. Doubtless fault lies with me, but it's getting too close to deer season to keep fiddlin, I'll fall back on my previous load with 225 grain Interlocks. Those Barnes ain't cheap bullets to keep flinging downrange either. I don't know if I'll give up them, but I've got a few left to try on coyotes this winter.


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I tried the light for caliber 180 gr, Monolithic bullets in my 300 H&H and in my .338 and I didn't get as much penetration as everyone told me I would..I had two of them stop in the grass filled stomach of a buck deer and another went into the shoulder of an elk and out the top of his shoulder blade..A second shot behind the shoulder killed him but he made some tracks before expiring..I had a coyote run 2 miles when a 160 gr. failed to open, found him the next day by accident..

I went back to the 210 Nosler at 3005 FPS and 300 gr. Woodleighs at 2509 FPS..they just work under all conditions..

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Originally Posted by atkinson


I went back to the 210 Nosler at 3005 FPS and 300 gr. Woodleighs at 2509 FPS..they just work under all conditions..


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How would that bullet work in a 338 Federal ?


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