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As far as I am concerned Ross's ability with, and knowledge of, firearms is not in question. However, as much as Ross likes to tout his ability in all fields, I have never seen any evidence offered for his self proclaimed "ten years" of professionally guiding in Africa. As Ken pointed out, I just heard a report on the news that there are now over nine million persons claiming to be Vietnam vetrans yet the US military only has record of three million. Wheather Ross actually guided in Africa for as long as he claims does not diminish his ability as a writer or his knowledge of firearms. As a guide I simply am curious. It wouldn't matter if I were a farmer or brain surgeon, if someone claimed to be in the same occupation I would certainly ask a few questions to establish some sort of rapport.
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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I've never noticed that Ross produced very many details about being a world Champion shooter, why do you think that he would do so with anyother aspect of his life....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" />
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jwp, whoever you are, You need to go back and re-read Ross's earlier writing in G&A . The fact that he was "world champion" was always in front of the reader. Why do you hide behind the cloak of ananomity?
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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[Quote] by Phil Shoemaker Why do you hide behind the cloak of ananomity? [Quote] Why does it matter to you? Are you somehow suggesting that if we had drinks,and dinner together that somehow that would change your question and the answers that you have recieved? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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I believed him until he wrote of owning a single shot Ruger with which he could hit a soup can at 800 yds EVERY TIME. Good luck! I guess it would depend on the size of the soup can. However, I do have several Ruger single shots that I believe could stay on at least a quart size can at that range, if I were a good enough shot. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/help.gif" alt="" /> Just because you and I can't do it doesn't mean someone else might not be able to. I'm sure not gonna call Ross a liar because he said he did it. I have a good friend that could consistantly hit beer cans at 100 yards with an S&W Chiefs Special, a .,38 snubby. I can shoot a handgun fairly well, but I never could shoot like he did. Maybe it's just some people's eyes work differently in some way, I dunno. I figure if Ross said he did it, who am I to doubt him? It's like Elmer Keith's 600 yard shot on a Mule Deer. it was witnessed, yet people to this day still call him a liar. Go figure. Paul B.
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This internet is quite a powerful tool. For a persons name to come up and it be a free for all is quite disturbing I would expect.
Of course Ross is a person who stands out and gets some riled up but we all might be the better for it if we used the net with discretion. This goes for yours truly also.
As for myself I have not read him in years but he is a skilled person. I wrote him and invited him here a couple of decades ago. He never answered. I got over it.
All in all Ross is a gun guy. He is on our side and he makes things interesting. To have a friend you have to let the chafe go and keep the grain. Good post, 99. I'm with you on this one. One minute a guy is asking where Ross Seyfried went, or who he is writing for, the next minute it becomes a free for all with many people making slanderous or uninformed remarks. I mean, it is called "ask the gunwriters", not "talk about the gunwriters behind their backs". Factual/experienced based comments are fine, it's all the hear say that bothers me. I mean , it would be one thing if the guy were here to defend himself...Just my thoughts---2MG
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Maybe one of those 5 gallon cans they use at schools and prisons.
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What's the big deal about his African experience? I never read anything by him about Africa that seemed implausible or even unlikely based on conventional wisdom, not to mention my own experience. And some of his anecdotes were definitely "had to be there" experiences. Can't say the same about Capstick, although I don't deny he was there, sort of, as I've related. previously. t
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Article in question was in regards to a 22-284 and high BC offerings.
Wouldn't rate soup can killing at 800yds,as a stretch of anything,other than a capable chambering that was geared towards doing just that.
I'd liken that feat to hitting the toilet with a stream of pizz,with feet touching the porcelain,as compared to what JM can do with a wheelgun.
As a for instance barometer....................
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"Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett
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Not slighting a good man with a rifle,but there are droves of folks who could accomplish the feat mentioned,with a drove of implements.
Can't think of a soul,who could run with Miculek.
The man is seemingly from another World..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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And he seems like a nice guy. What's up with that? t
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This must be the longest running thread in history (or at least 24 Hour Campground's history!) - it started on September 4, 2004 and continues today!!
I have never met Ross Seyfried but I respect his knowledge and writing. He shoots (or reported on) guns that I could never afford nor probably could not tolerate (recoil). He had hunting and shooting experiences that I'll never have. I did enjoy and learn from his writing.
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Ive shot several matches with Jerry,and he is indeed one regular nice guy. There are several guys who can run pretty close to him, but close only counts in horse shoes so they say. At one particular International Revolver match, I had one stage where I was able to consistently hold pretty close to his times which made me feel like I was runnin' with the big dog. Jerry has personality plus talent, he's a real people person.
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anyone have info on Ross's 585 Nyati? I have seen it mentioned, but never the demensions or what it was made from. Just curious.
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The 585 Nyati is made from the 577 Nitro case by improving and maching the case head inorder to make a rimless case suitable for use in a bolt action
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Thanks ,jwp, Its not for wimps then.
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This internet is quite a powerful tool. For a persons name to come up and it be a free for all is quite disturbing I would expect.
Of course Ross is a person who stands out and gets some riled up but we all might be the better for it if we used the net with discretion. This goes for yours truly also.
As for myself I have not read him in years but he is a skilled person. I wrote him and invited him here a couple of decades ago. He never answered. I got over it.
All in all Ross is a gun guy. He is on our side and he makes things interesting. To have a friend you have to let the chafe go and keep the grain. Good post, 99. I'm with you on this one. One minute a guy is asking where Ross Seyfried went, or who he is writing for, the next minute it becomes a free for all with many people making slanderous or uninformed remarks. I mean, it is called "ask the gunwriters", not "talk about the gunwriters behind their backs". Factual/experienced based comments are fine, it's all the hear say that bothers me. I mean , it would be one thing if the guy were here to defend himself...Just my thoughts---2MG Life goes on. We speed and get a ticket and keep a better watch on things for a while. Some writer pumps out article after article and finally says something that someone picks up on. Or maybe the writer tells some editor that he is full of crap and a vendeta starts. Since we have a vulnerable community here, the shooting sports, and I suggest that as much as possible we are circumspect when going after another of us. In particular I have a problem with disparaging someone who has just passed on. Have a breath of human kindness, blow the chafe away and keep the grain.
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Good summation from Savage 99. The fact that this thread has run so long is a testiment to Ross's popularity.
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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Savage 99, If I may ask, WHO just passed on??
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