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I have a new Ruger LH 7-08 heading my way. Never loaded for a 7-08 need some loading sugestions. Have lots of RL-15 , 4320, 4350, WW 760. Bullets from 120 gr to 175.


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I tried 4320 in my Tikka when I got it, that has worked well with 140 Ballistic Tips (1 inch groups) and 100 gr Hornady HP (.6 inch groups).

I really haven't had the time to do much development but with results like that, why bother?

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RL15 with 120s/140s.

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120 B-Tip 49.0 H414 = 3086 fps and cloverleaf accuracy in my son's Savage.


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44-45gr R-15 and the 120 B-Tips has been a standard load for the 7-08 around here for some time. I've never tried the other loads posted so I can't comment.


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W760/H414 have always been the ideal speed and accuracy combo champs for me with 140-150 weights. Had good luck with faster powders nd lighter bullets: H335 and Varget; RL19 and 7828 work well with the heavies; 4350 with 160s. Those are my results. I doubt you'll have trouble putting the rifle to work with what you have though.


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I like 49gr of IMR4007ssc with 120 gr Ballistic Tips. They run 3041 fps over my Pact and shoot sub MOA.


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I'm running RL-15 with 120TSX's for critters. For range stuff, I'm using 120 NBT's, and I'll give the 120 V-Max's a try when I run out.


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My 7-08 is a Weatherby so we all know how the free bore is but I run 160 grain Sierra SBT with 46.2gr of RE-19. Group is around 3/4 at 100yds. Don't know the speed as I've never run it through the chrono. Primer is CCI 210, OAL is 2.765.

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I use Varget and 140 gr Ballistic Tips myself.

Your RL15 should work just the same.

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The 130g Speer BTSP is a fantastic deer bullet, we use IMR 4895 with a 9 1/2 primer, accuracy is where the bullets touch at 100 yards.

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Originally Posted by Mtn Hunter
RL15 with 120s/140s.

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Yep, and R15 with the Speer 130 BTs are the cat's meow!


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Out of a twin to your rifle:

140gr Accubond 48.0gr Ramshot Big Game for 2902fps

150gr Partiton 49.0gr Ramshot Hunter for 2760fps

Both sub-MOA (after working the trigger and floating the barrel.)

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I shoot the 120 tsx with a max load of H414 and it shoots lights out! It should put a whoopin on some deer's behind this year. I also had good luck with 49.5 H414 with 120 BT. W760 is the same powder and works great in the 7-08!

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Originally Posted by kk alaska
I have a new Ruger LH 7-08 heading my way. Never loaded for a 7-08 need some loading sugestions. Have lots of RL-15 , 4320, 4350, WW 760. Bullets from 120 gr to 175.


For my new FN Win Model 70 in 7-08, I want straight to 140 grain Nosler Partitions for a Deer load. I compared case capacities of the 7-08 and the 7x57, and reduced the powder charge for the starting 7-08 load. I have several 7x57's and best accuracy with 140's is with 47.0 grains of H-414, same powder as 760 which you have. I dropped the charge weight to 45.0 grains for the 7-08, and proceeded to shoot a 3 shot, 1/2" group my first outing with the new M-70, after zeroing the scope. That load is a keeper, for my rifle.
Also, I wanted a Varmint load for the M-70, so I loaded up some 100 grain Sierra HP's with 42.0 grains of Varget, and repeated the 3 shot, 1/2" group at 100 yards. I was using a Weaver V-16 set at 16x for the load testing. Fed 210M primers were used in both loads.


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Shot the New Ruger LH 22" Hawkeye 7-08. bedded action & action screws, barrel forend pad left in. Probably free float it most groups had 2 shots < .5" 3 rd shot group opened up. My test loads in my rifle, awful conditions 15 to 30 MPH wind. New WW brass, CCI primers all 3 shot groups at 100 yards

Big Game (47.5) GR 2793, 2810 FPS, 140 Sierra GK 3 @ 1.3"

RL-15 USA (45) GR 2925, 2901,FPS, 120 Nosler Bal. Tip 31.4"

(44.5) Gr WW 760 2510 FPS, 160 Speer FB 3 @ 1.1"

RL-15 USA (44) GR 2812, 2814, FPS, 140 Nosler AB 3 @ 1.9"

RL-15 USA (44) GR 2759, 2779, FPS, 140 Nosler Bal. Tip 3@ 1.32"

Test loads in New Rifle worked up to book max in my rifle.
Do velocitys look normal or slow for a 22" barrel?


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Originally Posted by Klikitarik
W760/H414 have always been the ideal speed and accuracy combo champs for me with 140-150 weights. Had good luck with faster powders nd lighter bullets: H335 and Varget; RL19 and 7828 work well with the heavies; 4350 with 160s. Those are my results. I doubt you'll have trouble putting the rifle to work with what you have though.


Second this - W760 gets 'er done with 140 Accubonds or 145 Hot Cors - both in velocity and accuracy. Varget or RL-15 both work well with 120 gr bullets.


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You might want to try H414 @49 gr with your 120 gr bullet setup. I get 3058 fps out of a Stevens 200, 22 inch barrel.

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Couldn't get H414 to work in my M70 Fwt. so I switched to Varget. Glad I did.
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44 grains of H380 with a 140 TSX shoots under an inch in my Rem 7/08

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Originally Posted by kk alaska
Shot the New Ruger LH 22" Hawkeye 7-08. bedded action & action screws, barrel forend pad left in. Probably free float it most groups had 2 shots < .5" 3 rd shot group opened up. My test loads in my rifle, awful conditions 15 to 30 MPH wind. New WW brass, CCI primers all 3 shot groups at 100 yards

Big Game (47.5) GR 2793, 2810 FPS, 140 Sierra GK 3 @ 1.3"

RL-15 USA (45) GR 2925, 2901,FPS, 120 Nosler Bal. Tip 31.4"

(44.5) Gr WW 760 2510 FPS, 160 Speer FB 3 @ 1.1"

RL-15 USA (44) GR 2812, 2814, FPS, 140 Nosler AB 3 @ 1.9"

RL-15 USA (44) GR 2759, 2779, FPS, 140 Nosler Bal. Tip 3@ 1.32"

Test loads in New Rifle worked up to book max in my rifle.
Do velocitys look normal or slow for a 22" barrel?


Just a note here. I did sand the forend "lump" out of the barrel channel for my two Ruger 77's. I did no before and after testing however. Both rifles now shoot groups about half the size you're getting; between 1/2" and 3/4" for 3 shots at 100 yards. I have a "thing" about forend pressure points. I don't like them and feel they are only required to mask another problem with bedding. With good barrels, good stock bedding, and a good load, free floating barrels should shoot best...( It says here in fine print anyway grin, except for the 7 Rem 722's I have that shoot GREAT with barrels fully bedded all the way to the tip of the forend.. I don't want to confuse anyone here with any facts... grin)


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150 Nosler BT, RL-15, 40.5, 2650fps, 3/8" (my base/comparison load)

140 Nosler BT/AB, Varget, 43.5, No chrono, 3/4"

140 Nosler BT/AB, RL-19, 49.5, 2890fps, 5/16" (my next base laod?, needs some more range time)

120 Barnes TSX, RL-15, 42.5, 2985fps, 7/8"

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150 Nosler BT
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6 into .6"
9 into a shade less than 1"

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45.0 Varget or RE15 seems to be a pretty universal winner behind a 120 NBT.


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I'm shooting 44 gr of RL-15 with a 120 TTSX out of my 7-08 for about 2950 fps.


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Anyone have a mix for RL-15 and 139 grn SPBt's?


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Sweet thread resurrection.....

I'm still shooting a grain or so below Hogdon's max for H4350 and the 145gr Speer BT. Due to the nose profile, I can reach the lands for a light touch, which probably bumps pressure up just a bit. Yields right at 2,700fps from a 20" 700. Is very tough on hogs and deer so far.


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Near max load with big game....

120's at 3,100+....
140's at 2,900+....

Great accuracy, 22" tube....


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I have 2 loads I'm running for a 7mm-08.

1. IMR 4064 with 130 Speer BTSP

2. H414 with 140 grain Barnes TTSX


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Have settled on a couple of accurate loads 47.5 Gr of Ram Shot Big Game and 140 gr Nosler Ballistic tip and around 50 gr of RS BG with the 120 gr Ballistic Tip.


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48-50gr of Big Game and the 120 ballistic tip. Hard part is finding the Big Game!

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47.5 grains Big Game (good luck finding it)
140 Partition
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I load 48gr of H4350 and a 140gr Corelokt (Hornady 140gr flat base works equally well) for my Rem 7600. It works great for me.


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Enough Varget or H4350 to make a 139-140 grain bullet go 2800 fps works for me. Varget has proven to be slightly more accurate on average, but not by much. H4895 also works well, but with slightly less velocity IME.


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120 TTSX with 48 grains of CFE 223. Sub 1" groups.

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My go to load in all my 7-08's is 46g of RL-17 behind a 140 NBT. Has been sub-moa in every 7-08 I've shot it in.

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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
47.5 grains Big Game (good luck finding it)
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I've been shooting a 7mm-08 since 1991. I have owned three, and all shot well with a Ken Waters Pet Load: 43.0 grains of WW748 under a 139 Hornady Spire Point. I have also used 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips with that load. My Remington Model Seven will group them better than I can shoot. The Model Seven chronographs around 2,650 fps with an 18-1/2" barrel, and a 22" barrel is at least 100 fps faster. I also like 47 grains of WW760 with the same bullet.


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I use the Ken Waters Pet load of 43.0 grains of WW 748 under a 139 Hornady bullet. It also works with a 140 grain bullet. Another load I have used and liked is 47.0 grains of WW 760, same bullets.

I've been using the 748 load in my Remington Model 7 since I bought it in 1991. It likes that load and not many others. Other 7mm-08 rifles I have owned weren't as finicky, like my Tikka.

Whoops! I already said that...

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I love Pet Loads.

But it only has the old powders because it's an old publication New powders are better.

To me cruising threads here on the Fire is, IMO, the new Pet Loads.

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I agree DF. It was the Fire that got me to try Pharm's infamous Big Game loads, and low and behold they are just as accurate as my RL-17 loads, but I gain a little bit of speed. Always love seeing whats working for others.

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Originally Posted by JohnChilds
I agree DF. It was the Fire that got me to try Pharm's infamous Big Game loads, and low and behold they are just as accurate as my RL-17 loads, but I gain a little bit of speed. Always love seeing whats working for others.

Yep.

And that info saves barrels. If we had to shoot enough combos to find those "Pet Loads", we'd be forever swapping out barrels.

So, the Fire is cost effective... cool

That's a good excuse if you ever get accused of spending too much time on the computer.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer


And that info saves barrels. If we had to shoot enough combos to find those "Pet Loads", we'd be forever swapping out barrels.

So, the Fire is cost effective... cool



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Now that's funny right there!
The fire has cost me 10's of thousand's in new and used rifles over the years..


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Originally Posted by Nrut
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And that info saves barrels. If we had to shoot enough combos to find those "Pet Loads", we'd be forever swapping out barrels.

So, the Fire is cost effective... cool



DF

Now that's funny right there!
The fire has cost me 10's of thousand's in new and used rifles over the years..

laugh

That's my story and I'm sticking to it... wink

But, I have a bunch of guns I'd never have bought/built without Fire influence.

The "cost effective" line is my official position... cool

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'Farmer,
With the advent of Photobucket screwing the pooch, I can't see your load data.
Nosler max for the 140 with Big Game is 47.5 and that appears to be a compressed load.
Is that what you're using?
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47.5 gr isn't compressed for me.

140 Partition, WLRM, 2.805", Rem brass. 2870 fps at the muzzle.





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I was a big fan of the 120 gr bullets in my 7-08 but I now am loading the 150eldx with RL17 and it is a awesome load. I'm getting 2900fps and 1/2 moa out to 500 yards which is as far as I've shot it.

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Originally Posted by 243Win
I was a big fan of the 120 gr bullets in my 7-08 but I now am loading the 150eldx with RL17 and it is a awesome load. I'm getting 2900fps and 1/2 moa out to 500 yards which is as far as I've shot it.

That's pretty fast for a 150 in the 7-08...

You gotta watch RL-17. It can get way over SAAMI max without pressure signs.

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I was a big fan of the 120 gr bullets in my 7-08 but I now am loading the 150eldx with RL17 and it is a awesome load. I'm getting 2900fps and 1/2 moa out to 500 yards which is as far as I've shot it.

That's pretty fast for a 150 in the 7-08...

You gotta watch RL-17. It can get way over SAAMI max without pressure signs.

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Unless his is a particularly long barrel, that load is WAY over max pressure.

I love the 7-08, but it's always been my impression it's one of the most hotrodded cartridges out there. If a guy wants a 280, that's what he should get.


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Originally Posted by 243Win
I was a big fan of the 120 gr bullets in my 7-08 but I now am loading the 150eldx with RL17 and it is a awesome load. I'm getting 2900fps and 1/2 moa out to 500 yards which is as far as I've shot it.

That's pretty fast for a 150 in the 7-08...

You gotta watch RL-17. It can get way over SAAMI max without pressure signs.

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+1

Unless his is a particularly long barrel, that load is WAY over max pressure.

I love the 7-08, but it's always been my impression it's one of the most hotrodded cartridges out there. If a guy wants a 280, that's what he should get.


Amen guys, and I don't understand why either. I really enjoy the modest recoil in my 2800' 140gr loads, and my 3000' 120 BT loads. They are a joy to shoot.


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My bbl is 25.5" long and my load is 45.5gr of RL17 .. I have loaded my nosler brass 5 times now with this load and that brass is as tight as the first time I loaded it. I guess Berger is releasing dangerous load data then .. They got 2830 fps with a 24" and 45.9 gr of RL17......

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47.5 gr isn't compressed for me.

140 Partition, WLRM, 2.805", Rem brass. 2870 fps at the muzzle.





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Originally Posted by 243Win
My bbl is 25.5" long and my load is 45.5gr of RL17 .. I have loaded my nosler brass 5 times now with this load and that brass is as tight as the first time I loaded it. I guess Berger is releasing dangerous load data then .. They got 2830 fps with a 24" and 45.9 gr of RL17......


Berger doesn't test loads with pressure barrels, it publishes QuickLoad predictions.

You're 70 fps over their max guess with 1.5" more barrel.

Not country I care to be in... but undoubtdly your rifle can handle a load over 64,000 psi.


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Originally Posted by MtnHtr
RL15 with 120s/140s.

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In my 7-08 41.6 of RL15 and 140 Nosler Bal. Tips work wonders.








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47.5 gr isn't compressed for me.

140 Partition, WLRM, 2.805", Rem brass. 2870 fps at the muzzle.





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Makes a big difference what brass your using. Remington brass will take 47.5 gr. Of Big Game under the 140 gr. Partition in my 7mm-08s no problem and like Pharmseller, I get a little over 2800 fps. However, I’ve got a couple hundred Lapua brass that I back the load down to 46.5 gr. and get the same velocity. Lapua brass is a little thicker than Remington’s so builds pressure with less powder.


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RL15 with 120s/140s.

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In my 7-08 41.6 of RL15 and 140 Nosler Bal. Tips work wonders.




RL15 is a great powder in the 7mm-08 and is all I used to use. I just like that Big Game gives a little more velocity, is clean burning, and is temperature change resistant. Plus, it is more accurate with the 120 gr. Ballistic Tips (in my rifles) which is the bullet I shoot the most.


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[quote=243Win but undoubtdly your rifle can handle a load over 64,000 psi.



most modern bolt action can handle 2 times that pressure, Remington test there actions at 175psi with no failure

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[quote=243Win but undoubtdly your rifle can handle a load over 64,000 psi.



most modern bolt action can handle 2 times that pressure, Remington test there actions at 175psi with no failure



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[quote=243Win but undoubtdly your rifle can handle a load over 64,000 psi.



most modern bolt action can handle 2 times that pressure, Remington test there actions at 175psi with no failure



Holy crap!?


Well let's put it in an easier way if Remington actions could only handle 65000 PSI, Remington would be sued to death an out-of-business that's why they're pressure test them so high for liability. On a another note I friend and I tried to blow up a rusty Remington action once for a hunter safety course loaded a 30-06 full of red dot. Tied it to a tire after the dust cleared and a tire quit spinning we examine the action and nothing was done to the action other than the bolt expanded out into the counterbore that you could not open the action, had to remove the barrel to get it apart. The brass was also expanded or welded to the inside of the chamber, primer pocket double its size.

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Gemby,
Where did you get your information on Remington’s test loads? Pressure sounds awfully high to me!


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Where did you get your information on Remington’s test loads? Pressure sounds awfully high to me!

Research the history on Remington 700 actions and that'll be one source you can find and also call Remington custom shop and ask them

, and even faster results Google it

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Back in the late 90s RL-22 had a problem and they did a recall on that powder as it wasn't mixed properly and it had a high pressure spike. I had about 15 lb of this powder and I called and they told me that the samples that they tested had a spike of about 87000 to 95000 PSI, I used this powder, had 15 pounds of it, till after the 3rd round of all the primer pockets enlarged. That said action is still running today and is good shape, it's a blueprinted 700 action and it shows no sign of stretching or bulging of the action

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I recently put together a Howa Mountain rifle with the lightweight barrel and bansner stock. Also had it bedded and factory trigger tuned and set to 2.5 bls.

I tried several different loads using 120 NBT, 140 NAB, and 150 BTs with Varget and RL17. Everything was around 1-1.5", although these were the first rounds down the barrel.

Then I found some Big Game and decided to try Pharmseller's load. 140g NAB, 47.5g Big Game, Win LR Mag primer, at 2.800" and the first load shot like this. 2,820 FPS in a 20" barrel. No more load development needed.

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Originally Posted by bonepoint
I recently put together a Howa Mountain rifle with the lightweight barrel and bansner stock. Also had it bedded and factory trigger tuned and set to 2.5 bls.

I tried several different loads using 120 NBT, 140 NAB, and 150 BTs with Varget and RL17. Everything was around 1-1.5", although these were the first rounds down the barrel.

Then I found some Big Game and decided to try Pharmseller's load. 140g NAB, 47.5g Big Game, Win LR Mag primer, at 2.800" and the first load shot like this. 2,820 FPS in a 20" barrel. No more load development needed.

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I recently put together a Howa Mountain rifle with the lightweight barrel and bansner stock. Also had it bedded and factory trigger tuned and set to 2.5 bls.

I tried several different loads using 120 NBT, 140 NAB, and 150 BTs with Varget and RL17. Everything was around 1-1.5", although these were the first rounds down the barrel.

Then I found some Big Game and decided to try Pharmseller's load. 140g NAB, 47.5g Big Game, Win LR Mag primer, at 2.800" and the first load shot like this. 2,820 FPS in a 20" barrel. No more load development needed.

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And a single shot at 225 yards will drop any bull.

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I recently put together a Howa Mountain rifle with the lightweight barrel and bansner stock. Also had it bedded and factory trigger tuned and set to 2.5 bls.

I tried several different loads using 120 NBT, 140 NAB, and 150 BTs with Varget and RL17. Everything was around 1-1.5", although these were the first rounds down the barrel.

Then I found some Big Game and decided to try Pharmseller's load. 140g NAB, 47.5g Big Game, Win LR Mag primer, at 2.800" and the first load shot like this. 2,820 FPS in a 20" barrel. No more load development needed.

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And a single shot at 225 yards will drop any bull.

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Yep.

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My 7-08 is pretty fond of H414 and 140 gr Partitions.

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Originally Posted by Brad
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My bbl is 25.5" long and my load is 45.5gr of RL17 .. I have loaded my nosler brass 5 times now with this load and that brass is as tight as the first time I loaded it. I guess Berger is releasing dangerous load data then .. They got 2830 fps with a 24" and 45.9 gr of RL17......


Berger doesn't test loads with pressure barrels, it publishes QuickLoad predictions.

You're 70 fps over their max guess with 1.5" more barrel.

Not country I care to be in... but undoubtdly your rifle can handle a load over 64,000 psi.


John Barsness has a 7-08 load posted in his The Big Book of Gun Gack of 45.5 Re17 behind Nosler 150 BTs at 2827 fps with a 22" barrel. 243Win's load with the 25.5" barrel seems reasonable. I've been shooting the 45.5 load for awhile albeit an OAL of 2.86" and get just over 2800 fps in a 24" barrel.

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Originally Posted by Highoctane

My 7-08 is pretty fond of H414 and 140 gr Partitions.


Same recipe as the AB, just switch to Partition, 2880 FPS


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Originally Posted by Highoctane

My 7-08 is pretty fond of H414 and 140 gr Partitions.


That will work


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44gr of varget and 120bt for me. Under 1in out of my model 7 if I do my part.

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Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
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My 7-08 is pretty fond of H414 and 140 gr Partitions.


That will work

Has for years.

But, newer powders burn cleaner and are less temp sensitive.

I'm Loony enough to never get stuck on a good powder when there may be a better one.

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Options are great. Big Game was unobtainium for a couple of years due to a fire at the manufacturing plant.

Good thing I had plenty in inventory (I still owe Mistem a case of beer) or I’d have been hosed.




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Pharm, Have you worked with H-4350 at all and if you have, how did it compare to Big Game?

It's been my go-to for the 7-08 and 7X57.

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Anyone using Hornady's 139 BTSP in the 7-08 with H4350 or Varget?

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In the several 7mm-08s that I have owned and/or loaded for, H4350 worked fine, but not quite as good as Big Game. It was accurate enough, but BG is cleaner burning, slightly more accurate, and gives more velocity within pressure limits. Plus, Big Game meters fabulously thru a powder measure.


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Pharm, Have you worked with H-4350 at all and if you have, how did it compare to Big Game?

It's been my go-to for the 7-08 and 7X57.



Nope. I tried Varget and a couple others but BG gave me the best accuracy and the highest velocity.





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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Anyone using Hornady's 139 BTSP in the 7-08 with H4350 or Varget?


I used to use the 139 Interlock and h4350. My load was near max and shot really well. Most manuals top out at about 46 grains of H4350, but Mule Deer says that the 139 IL has a shorter bearing surface and can handle up to 50 grains. My best accuracy was about 48 grains, so I stopped there. Then I went to Big Game and 120 BTs and haven't looked back.

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BG is also a great '06 powder with lighter bullets. Here's my HVA with 130's.

I think Pharm must sprinking BG on his corn flakes... grin

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Aussie code for Varget?

You must be down under...

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Originally Posted by 243Win
My bbl is 25.5" long and my load is 45.5gr of RL17 .. I have loaded my nosler brass 5 times now with this load and that brass is as tight as the first time I loaded it. I guess Berger is releasing dangerous load data then .. They got 2830 fps with a 24" and 45.9 gr of RL17......


In my 22" tube, 45.6gr of RL17 under a 150ELDX @ 2.800" in a Nosler case gets me 2,770fps and 1/2" groups.

RL17 is "peaky"....pressure can get away from you quickly.

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Good shooting Pharm. Thanks for sharing. Was just thinking, this morning, I need to start shooting my 7mm08 more..


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Did you "shoot him in the ear hole".... grin Hope you don't mind I'm using that.


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My nephew. Double lung.

Use the ear hole. It was the damnedest thing.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
My nephew. Double lung.

Use the ear hole. It was the damnedest thing.


Awesome man. Your nephew did great!!. I passed up a spike this year. Walked away with a good feeling that I'm letting it grow bigger for next year. Generally I'll shoot a spike and not care, but this one was small compared to the others I've taken.


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My nephew. Double lung.

Use the ear hole. It was the damnedest thing.


Pharm, you are needed over at the other site..


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Pharm, you are needed over at the other site..



They’re getting exactly what they want over there. I ain’t going back.

BTW, my other nephew kilt his first buck this year with the same load, same rifle. 250 yards, double lung, 30 foot recovery. One of the best kill shots I’ve seen, and on his first to boot.




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Pharm, you are needed over at the other site..



They’re getting exactly what they want over there. I ain’t going back.

BTW, my other nephew kilt his first buck this year with the same load, same rifle. 250 yards, double lung, 30 foot recovery. One of the best kill shots I’ve seen, and on his first to boot.




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So far my go to has been 40gr Varget and 139gr Hornady Interlock. Just under MOA at 100, but trying a few more combo's this fall. Working up a good load for my niece to shoot as I'm taking her elk hunting in two years and want to give her plenty of time to practice! I may try some of the recipe's I found here! Thanks!

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Still shooting H4350 with 140-145gr cup/core bullets, using near the Hogdon listed max. Makes around 2700fps in 18-20" barrels.

My other main load is for my daughter's rifle. We shoot the 120TTSX over H4895 from a 20" barrel. 42gr gives us mid-2,800's for velocity, while 43gr tops us out about 100-120fps faster (Barnes shows 42.8 as max in a Bartlein test barrel). The 42gr load is a comfortable one, about like a good .257 Roberts 120gr load.

Another carbine just gets the 139gr Hornady American Whitetail Interlock factory load. No idea on actual muzzle velocity, but it kills stuff fairly dead for $32 or so per box. Always a decent bullet choice in a 7mm-08.


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I've not ran it across the chrono yet but the 150 Scenar in WW brass and 46.5grs of H4350 is keeping 5 shots in the 3/4" range with my Tikka. Hopefully I can chrono it today or tomorrow.


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Looks pretty good H. I'm getting ready to go and try some 140gr TTSX's in my 7mm08 right now. Loaded them up lastnight. .100" off the lands and ready to rock and roll. Running Big Game powder. I didn't load up much, but hoping enough to show me an accuracy node I like. We shall see.
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140 ttsx should be quite dandy in the 7-08.


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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.


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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.


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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


beretzs, if you have some Varget it will get those 120 BT's close to 3000 fps for 22" barrel. If you have some Big Game or CFE223 either one will kick it up another notch.

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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


It wouldn't surprise me if you found another good charge by turning up the throttle on the H4895.

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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.

My classic shot mediocre, but it was a damn nice rifle. Got it for a great deal. Someone else wanted it more than I did, so I sent it down the road:
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Those fwt's are nice rifles. You 2 are good at working up loads. I'm sure you will find a great load. I pulled the old Nikon off of my 7mm08 today and swapped it out for a New Burris FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex reticle. I've had issues with the factory Tikka rings in the past, so I swapped those out as well. Now back to the drawing board with the 140gr TTSX. The most promising loading was right at 2,820 fps with Big Game powder. I'm hoping to try that bullet on a buck this year. Dug 2 of those bullets out of the dirt bank and they weighed 130 and 130.8 gr's. 93-94% weight retention. Wondering how they will do on a thin skinned deer or elk...


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4.1 mils put me on a 12” plate at 620yds this evening. I only had 2 misses and I knew they were when the trigger broke. Shooting off a backpack and no rear support.


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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.


Thanks John.


Here you go. The 140 BT load was a good one. I almost used this rifle and load for my sheep hunt in 2018. But I went and got all nostalgic and used a 270 Winchester instead.

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Was just thinking, it might be harder to come up with a bad 7/08 load than a good one. The 7mm Mauser Short.


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4.1 mils put me on a 12” plate at 620yds this evening. I only had 2 misses and I knew they were when the trigger broke. Shooting off a backpack and no rear support.

Sounds great. Do you think the majority of the shots would put them in the boiler room of a deer at that range? If not, maybe a 550 yard load for such critters... When I was shooting my 300wsm and 7mm rem mag in the canyons for practice, I was making sure I could put them on a paper plate at 800 yards. The shots I took on bucks were from 600-700 yards, while making sure there was very minimal wind. The updrafts coming out of the canyon from the river would push the bullet off the target during practice as much as 12" at 800 yards. Those scenars are slick pills. I'm imagining you are thinking of taking some long shots with that rifle.. The key point in your post was that you knew you had missed as soon as you pulled the trigger. That's what a lot of practice will tell you. Shooting long range can be quite rewarding and also quite frustrating. My 7mm08 Tikka is very lightweight and is not set up for long shots, nor have I found a great load that I'd feel comfortable shooting at that distance with. My 6.5 CM superlite is the same way. If I had to shoot a longrange buck again, I'd pull one of my CTR's out. Damn, I wish I could turn one of those into a 7mm08....


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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.


Thanks John.


Here you go. The 140 BT load was a good one. I almost used this rifle and load for my sheep hunt in 2018. But I went and got all nostalgic and used a 270 Winchester instead.

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Good stuff right there. My Tikka didn't like that stiff of a load with the 150gr Hornady ELDX. 45gr gave pretty good accuracy though:
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Close to moa. I'm hoping it does better with the 140gr TTSX or the LRX's I have set off to the side for it.. J, I know you and Pharm like that magnum primer. Is it worth considering for that powder? I may try some CCI250's, if you think that will make a difference. I also have 3,000 BR2'S to play with.. In the group above, I was using CCI200's..


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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.


Thanks John.


Here you go. The 140 BT load was a good one. I almost used this rifle and load for my sheep hunt in 2018. But I went and got all nostalgic and used a 270 Winchester instead.

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Good stuff right there. My Tikka didn't like that stiff of a load with the 150gr Hornady ELDX. 45gr gave pretty good accuracy though:
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Close to moa. I'm hoping it does better with the 140gr TTSX or the LRX's I have set off to the side for it.. J, I know you and Pharm like that magnum primer. Is it worth considering for that powder? I may try some CCI250's, if you think that will make a difference. I also have 3,000 BR2'S to play with.. In the group above, I was using CCI200's..


Only time I used magnum primers was with this powder. I tried regular large rifle primers. The results were not that great, so I tried magnums better results.

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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.


Thanks John.


Here you go. The 140 BT load was a good one. I almost used this rifle and load for my sheep hunt in 2018. But I went and got all nostalgic and used a 270 Winchester instead.

[Linked Image]

Good stuff right there. My Tikka didn't like that stiff of a load with the 150gr Hornady ELDX. 45gr gave pretty good accuracy though:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Close to moa. I'm hoping it does better with the 140gr TTSX or the LRX's I have set off to the side for it.. J, I know you and Pharm like that magnum primer. Is it worth considering for that powder? I may try some CCI250's, if you think that will make a difference. I also have 3,000 BR2'S to play with.. In the group above, I was using CCI200's..


Only time I used magnum primers was with this powder. I tried regular large rifle primers. The results were not great if I remember right.

Thanks J. I know Pharm has said the same thing as you have. I just have a hard time shying away from the CCI200's and BR2's. I'll give the CCI250's a try... Damn, that means I better go out and prep the brass I fired off yesterday. I'll do some testing tomorrow..


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150gr Lapua Scenar


2.885” oal


Velocity - 2689fps



4.1 mils put me on a 12” plate at 620yds this evening. I only had 2 misses and I knew they were when the trigger broke. Shooting off a backpack and no rear support.

Sounds great. Do you think the majority of the shots would put them in the boiler room of a deer at that range? If not, maybe a 550 yard load for such critters... When I was shooting my 300wsm and 7mm rem mag in the canyons for practice, I was making sure I could put them on a paper plate at 800 yards. The shots I took on bucks were from 600-700 yards, while making sure there was very minimal wind. The updrafts coming out of the canyon from the river would push the bullet off the target during practice as much as 12" at 800 yards. Those scenars are slick pills. I'm imagining you are thinking of taking some long shots with that rifle.. The key point in your post was that you knew you had missed as soon as you pulled the trigger. That's what a lot of practice will tell you. Shooting long range can be quite rewarding and also quite frustrating. My 7mm08 Tikka is very lightweight and is not set up for long shots, nor have I found a great load that I'd feel comfortable shooting at that distance with. My 6.5 CM superlite is the same way. If I had to shoot a longrange buck again, I'd pull one of my CTR's out. Damn, I wish I could turn one of those into a 7mm08....




Other than the 2 that missed my grouping was pretty good. Inside the boiler room on an animal for sure. That said I don’t think I’d shoot at an animal much over 400yds and everything would need to be near perfect for that. But, confidence in the setup, absolutely. I think I’m the weak link here. laugh


My tikka is a T3x stainless, SWFA 6x in Sportsmatch 84’s, 7.5lbs all together I think.

I actually got a good deal on the Scenars and will probably only use them for practice. I have 200-250 140 Accubonds I’ll hunt with, they shoot great out to 650yds too though.


A paper plate at 800yds is dang good. I think we are going to try 800yds next trip, going to have to do some sawing to make a spot but it should be fun. Hopefully I’ll hit earth from that distance. Lol


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Many good powder and bullets options for the 7mm08 - almost too many combinations.

A summary of my experiences, and recommendations to those getting started with 7mm08 handloading:

A 140grain cup and core bullet should be your foundation. I prefer Sierra Pro Hunters, but Sierra Games Kings, Hornady Spire Point, and Hornady BTSP, all work 95% interchangeably. These bullets lack plastic tips, and give you more case capacity. They are also less expensive.

A 140 Sierra Pro Hunter from a 22" barrel, 2,800" OAL:
*47.2 grains of IMR4350 will go 2,830fps; the smallest groups I have shot with this rifle are this load; IMR4350 does lose about 1fps per degree F, but point of aim and accuracy don't seem to change; I shot a doe a few season ago when it was 32F out - she didn't seem to notice - took a few steps and fell over
*49.5 of H4350 runs about 2,880fps and gives 1/2" groups; velocity and point of aim do not change with temp; the downside is it is compressed
*47.5 of Big Game runs about 2,850fps and groups are less than 1"; I have tested several primer brands with BG, and WLR worked best for me; others on the board seem to prefer WLRM, so you may have to experiment
*RL17 is jekell and hyde; I won't list a powder charge, but stop at 2,920fps; I have shot 3/8" groups several times with this load, but you have to be really careful with working up on the top end - pressure escalate quickly! If you normal charge increment is 0.5 grains, cut that down to 0.3. Measuring case head expansion helps; also - do not interchange bullets once you find a powder charge - small changes in case volume (bullet length) seem to have an effect
*47.0 of RL16 goes 2,850fps and prints 3/4" groups
*48.0 of IMR4451 hits 2,800fps and less than 1" groups
*W760 shoots 1.5" groups from 47.0 to 49.0 grains - all the same point of impact - top end velocity is 2,850fps; it does lose velocity with temp, bot POI doesn't change

140 Nosler Partitions can be substituted somewhat seamlessly if you prefer to hunt with them. Load work up with standard cup and core bullet, then validate charge/velocity/pressure with partition (mini work up session).

Speer's 145 offerings seem to work well with the above powders, you will just be using slightly less powder.

If you want to try longer bullets, Nosler AB, Barnes, Hornady SST, etc, H4350 and RL16 may give you compression issues if you are limited to 2.800" OAL. BG or RL17 are dense powders, and would be my recommendations to avoid capacity issues.

Almost any medium burn powder works in 7mm08 with a 140, but velocity may be slightly lower (2750fps or so); Varget, RL15, IMR4064, etc

With the component shortage, just try and find a 140 and a medium powder - it will do the job.

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Being forced to change to lead free. Currently shoot a 120gr NBT under N140 in a 20” barrel for 2,850fps

I have a choice of 110gr and 120gr TTSX and have N540, N550 and RL17.

Use is big deer out to 300yds and I’m a fan of expansion and would prefer not to have to shoot shoulders

I can get hold of big game if required

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Being forced to change to lead free. Currently shoot a 120gr NBT under N140 in a 20” barrel for 2,850fps

I have a choice of 110gr and 120gr TTSX and have N540, N550 and RL17.

Use is big deer out to 300yds and I’m a fan of expansion and would prefer not to have to shoot shoulders

I can get hold of big game if required



https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt.../10512756/Optimal_MV_for_120_gr_TTSX_out

49.5 grains BG got me 3050 fps and great accuracy. Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primer. Low ES, around 20. Tikka stainless, so 22 1/2” barrel. Much more got me ejector marks.

51.5 grains BG with 120 BT got me 3126 fps and even better accuracy. Same primer.

2.805” COAL for both.




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My 7-08 love that Big Game powder with Magnum primers. Well yeah, it's a Tikka.


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My 7-08 love that Big Game powder with Magnum primers. Well yeah, it's a Tikka.



Huh, I might need to try that.



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What rifle / action are you shooting these in? Because of mag constraints I can't get near that COAL. I am kissing at 2.887" Mag constraints bring me to 2.830" Can't get much powder in the case with the Scenars doing that. My rifle shoots the 120 BT really well but I wanted to play with the Scenar a little since they shoot so good in my 6.5 Creedmoor.

Rifle is an older Rem Varmint Special with the heavy barrel. I have shot it out to 550 yards with the 120 BT's despite the low BC


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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.


Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.

My classic shot mediocre, but it was a damn nice rifle. Got it for a great deal. Someone else wanted it more than I did, so I sent it down the road:
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Those fwt's are nice rifles. You 2 are good at working up loads. I'm sure you will find a great load. I pulled the old Nikon off of my 7mm08 today and swapped it out for a New Burris FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex reticle. I've had issues with the factory Tikka rings in the past, so I swapped those out as well. Now back to the drawing board with the 140gr TTSX. The most promising loading was right at 2,820 fps with Big Game powder. I'm hoping to try that bullet on a buck this year. Dug 2 of those bullets out of the dirt bank and they weighed 130 and 130.8 gr's. 93-94% weight retention. Wondering how they will do on a thin skinned deer or elk...


The 140ttsx is a dense bullet. Would be great for elk. Launched at 3200 from a 7 mag just not much terminal damage on deer sized game. At 7/08 velocities it would be even less so. This has been my experience with them.

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Was just thinking, it might be harder to come up with a bad 7/08 load than a good one. The 7mm Mauser Short.



I definitely achieved this yesterday with some load testing that I did. The best group I got was with 120 Sierra pro hunter 42.5 grains of IMR4064 WLRP 2.800 COAL . To my surprise the worst group I got was with 140 sierra game king 47.5 grains ramshot big game WLRP 2.800 COAL and the same load with the 140 pro hunter wasnt much better. Was really hoping that the 140 pro hunter with big game would give me the same results as other have gotten but it looks like I'll be shooting the 120's and see how they do performance wise on deer where I'm at.

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Velocity - 2689fps


What rifle / action are you shooting these in? Because of mag constraints I can't get near that COAL. I am kissing at 2.887" Mag constraints bring me to 2.830" Can't get much powder in the case with the Scenars doing that. My rifle shoots the 120 BT really well but I wanted to play with the Scenar a little since they shoot so good in my 6.5 Creedmoor.

Rifle is an older Rem Varmint Special with the heavy barrel. I have shot it out to 550 yards with the 120 BT's despite the low BC





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Loaded up some 120gr ttsx with CCI 200, once fired Rem brass, 44.5 gr. R15 and 50gr big game for my featherweight today, everything the same except powder. R15 4 shot group .75" and big game all 4 touching. later on will see what they do at 2 and 300yds.

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47 gr of StaBALL 6.5 and 120 gr Nos BT. I’ve used LR and LR magnum primers and can’t really tell a difference accuracy wise.

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Since I have a lifetime supply of 120 BT's, I settled on BG and lapua brass. 49.6 is what gave me the best accuracy.


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Is anyone using CCE-223 with 140-grain bullets? I have 10 lbs. of the powder.


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I’m using cfe 223 with 120 ttsx alpha munitions brass.
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Its new rifle and I have some tinkering to do but deer season has started so it’s go time for that

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Is anyone using CCE-223 with 140-grain bullets? I have 10 lbs. of the powder.


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It should work great for ya with 140’s in 70-08..

Cfe 223 works great in other calibers also. It’s one of my favorite powders in 308 with 150 or 165 grain bullets

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Rummaging through my collection of .284" pills the other night, and "Hey, there are those 130's...." (Speer BTSP; purchased ostensibly for 7-30 Waters.) Ran some over IMR3031 in my M70 Fwt and they shoot like a house a'fire. Hmmmm


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Shot the New Ruger LH 22" Hawkeye 7-08. bedded action & action screws, barrel forend pad left in. Probably free float it most groups had 2 shots < .5" 3 rd shot group opened up. My test loads in my rifle, awful conditions 15 to 30 MPH wind. New WW brass, CCI primers all 3 shot groups at 100 yards

Big Game (47.5) GR 2793, 2810 FPS, 140 Sierra GK 3 @ 1.3"

RL-15 USA (45) GR 2925, 2901,FPS, 120 Nosler Bal. Tip 31.4"

(44.5) Gr WW 760 2510 FPS, 160 Speer FB 3 @ 1.1"

RL-15 USA (44) GR 2812, 2814, FPS, 140 Nosler AB 3 @ 1.9"

RL-15 USA (44) GR 2759, 2779, FPS, 140 Nosler Bal. Tip 3@ 1.32"

Test loads in New Rifle worked up to book max in my rifle.
Do velocitys look normal or slow for a 22" barrel?
Loads from 2009 been using RS BG in the 7-08 for a while


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I have some 120 grain BT and lots of RL15. Sounds like 44-45 grain works well with that bullet? Rifle is a Sako M75

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Originally Posted by duckster
I have some 120 grain BT and lots of RL15. Sounds like 44-45 grain works well with that bullet? Rifle is a Sako M75

RL15, Varget, BG..all produce great accuracy , it's up to you now.
RL15 seems to be very easy at various charges...
40 gr is a peach for youth.


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139 grain Hornady SPs over StaBall 6.5 does it for me.

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I'm not publishing the amount of powder, because this was touchy. The difference between WIN and FC brass was enough to give me pressure problems. I ended up with between 2940 and 2990 fps-- two averages from two trips out.

My previous load with Varget had given me velocities just under 2700 fps. Not impressive, but it was enough to take deer and boar.


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139 grain Hornady SPs over StaBall 6.5 does it for me.

A trip to the farm

I'm not publishing the amount of powder, because this was touchy. The difference between WIN and FC brass was enough to give me pressure problems. I ended up with between 2940 and 2990 fps-- two averages from two trips out.

My previous load with Varget had given me velocities just under 2700 fps. Not impressive, but it was enough to take deer and boar.

I used SB6.5 with 130 Speers and Bitterroots for about the same speed. Real accurate as well.


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Originally Posted by duckster
I have some 120 grain BT and lots of RL15. Sounds like 44-45 grain works well with that bullet? Rifle is a Sako M75

You'll kick some asss with that load and rifle.


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Oh boy really?!! The rifle kicks more ass, not your load that could be found in any load manual !!

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For those who care, Scheels as 120 BT in stock….

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Originally Posted by kk alaska
I have a new Ruger LH 7-08 heading my way. Never loaded for a 7-08 need some loading sugestions. Have lots of RL-15 , 4320, 4350, WW 760. Bullets from 120 gr to 175.

Wouldn’t go too crazy buying bullets. I have a shelf full that l was talked into over the years.

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Based on Pharmsellers advice, I switched to Big Game for 120 gr NBTs...based on Beretzs's thoughts I switched Hunter for 162 ELDMs. Both worked out well. Getting 3100 fps with the 120 NBTs and 2700+ with the 162's. 20" barrel.

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Originally Posted by TX35W
Based on Pharmsellers advice, I switched to Big Game for 120 gr NBTs...based on Beretzs's thoughts I switched Hunter for 162 ELDMs. Both worked out well. Getting 3100 fps with the 120 NBTs and 2700+ with the 162's. 20" barrel.

Hoping to give the 162's a decent run this year. They shoot danged well..


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Big Game, Mag primers and 140 Ballistic Silvertips here.

Good whitetail medicine.


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The 120 BT and BG has been my favorite as its accounted for three deer just this year.


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I'm working on a load now using big game and 120 TTSX. As of right now the most accurate load I've found with this combo is 50.0 grains of big game using large rifle primers and a COAL of 2.750. Haven't tried magnum primers yet.

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I'm a BG fan, have a big jug. I shoot several combos with it, do like the 120 gr. NBT.

Was trying some Sierra bullets and this load was consistently accurate out of my Hart barreled M-700, grouping tighter than my 120 gr. NBT loads.

Just a 3 shot group, but I've shot a number of them, consistently half MOA, generally better.

The 140 gr. SGK HPBT expands well with good internal damage and exits.

I generally don't think of Sierra bullets for hunting, but this one is pretty good for WT's and hogs.

Just another Loony load option. Bobby Hart built 7-08 in McM Hunter's Edge, with Conquest and Timney.

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I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.

I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.

Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.

I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.

Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.

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For sure. I don't mind Sierra a bit, especially for bucks and such. Always been pretty good there.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.

I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.

Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.

I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.

Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.

DF

To the detriment of their BC, this configuration of the Game King is relatively blunt, with a fat ogive. For my use of the .308", 165 grain version this means I can hang more of the full diameter portion of the bullet out in front of the case mouth without exceeding the magazine length limit. My theory is this aids alignment in the chamber throats and better groups follow.

For my uses the lower BC doesn't amount to much.

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Originally Posted by mathman
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I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.

I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.

Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.

I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.

Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.

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To the detriment of their BC, this configuration of the Game King is relatively blunt, with a fat ogive. For my use of the .308", 165 grain version this means I can hang more of the full diameter portion of the bullet out in front of the case mouth without exceeding the magazine length limit. My theory is this aids alignment in the chamber throats and better groups follow.

For my uses the lower BC doesn't amount to much.
Interesting observation.

B.C. not a big issue with me, either. I'm not into long range shooting, 2-300 yds, about my limit for most everything.

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I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.

I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.

Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.

I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.

Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.

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To the detriment of their BC, this configuration of the Game King is relatively blunt, with a fat ogive. For my use of the .308", 165 grain version this means I can hang more of the full diameter portion of the bullet out in front of the case mouth without exceeding the magazine length limit. My theory is this aids alignment in the chamber throats and better groups follow.

For my uses the lower BC doesn't amount to much.

I picked up some 165 HPBT GK's for just that reason to try in my 308 Montana.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
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I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.

I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.

Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.

I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.

Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.

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To the detriment of their BC, this configuration of the Game King is relatively blunt, with a fat ogive. For my use of the .308", 165 grain version this means I can hang more of the full diameter portion of the bullet out in front of the case mouth without exceeding the magazine length limit. My theory is this aids alignment in the chamber throats and better groups follow.

For my uses the lower BC doesn't amount to much.

I picked up some 165 HPBT GK's for just that reason to try in my 308 Montana.
Look forward to your report.

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In the early 2000s before Remington component brass went to pot I used to fill it with 165 grain BTHP Game Kings and 46 grains of Varget for very accurate results in several 308 rifles with factory chambers. It knocked the snot out of hogs too.

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139 Interlocks over Varget at 2800 fps shoots .5" - .7" in two Kimbers.
120 TTSXs over Varget shoot almost as well.

On another note, does anyone have any experience with 120 Hammer Hunters or 132 Hammer HHTs? I'm heading to the range Friday, to shoot a ladder of each till I find pressure. Then I'll back off a grain and start to look for accuracy. I'm anxious to see if they're worth all the hype. Anybody have any wisdom to share?


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Not those Hammers specifically, but some Hammers.

Check out the Absolute Hunter. They can be shot a good bit faster than usual. Google them. Pretty neat technology.

Interesting concept.

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Not those Hammers specifically, but some Hammers.

Check out the Absolute Hunter. They can be shot a good bit faster than usual. Google them. Pretty neat technology.

Interesting concept.

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I have some 172 .284, 130 .284 and 69 .243 AH's on my bench. The 172's, I plan to try in the 7 Mashburn Super, the 130's in my Kimber 7-08 and the 69's in my 243 or 6 Creed.. Pretty excited to give them a try.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Not those Hammers specifically, but some Hammers.

Check out the Absolute Hunter. They can be shot a good bit faster than usual. Google them. Pretty neat technology.

Interesting concept.

DF

I have some 172 .284, 130 .284 and 69 .243 AH's on my bench. The 172's, I plan to try in the 7 Mashburn Super, the 130's in my Kimber 7-08 and the 69's in my 243 or 6 Creed.. Pretty excited to give them a try.
Interesting.

Look forward to your report.

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Not those Hammers specifically, but some Hammers.

Check out the Absolute Hunter. They can be shot a good bit faster than usual. Google them. Pretty neat technology.

Interesting concept.

DF

I have some 172 .284, 130 .284 and 69 .243 AH's on my bench. The 172's, I plan to try in the 7 Mashburn Super, the 130's in my Kimber 7-08 and the 69's in my 243 or 6 Creed.. Pretty excited to give them a try.
Interesting.

Look forward to your report.

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The 7-08 is one of my favorite cartridges. I have several Remingtons including a custom, a Sako, and have just added a Tikka compact which appears to shoot wonderfully. I usually stay with 140 grain or lighter bullets. I have just come in to a box of Sierra 150 boattails and a box of Hornady 162 SST’s. Thinking about trying both a bit on targets. I usually use Varget or IMR 4064 and have used IMR 4350 with good results. I also have Reloder 15 in good supply. I’m thinking I might try the 4350 first. What are your collective thoughts?
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Originally Posted by RickinTN
The 7-08 is one of my favorite cartridges. I have several Remingtons including a custom, a Sako, and have just added a Tikka compact which appears to shoot wonderfully. I usually stay with 140 grain or lighter bullets. I have just come in to a box of Sierra 150 boattails and a box of Hornady 162 SST’s. Thinking about trying both a bit on targets. I usually use Varget or IMR 4064 and have used IMR 4350 with good results. I also have Reloder 15 in good supply. I’m thinking I might try the 4350 first. What are your collective thoughts?
Thanks, and take care!
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As much as I like Varget, don’t forget about BG. Pharmseller has posted a good bit of info on BG in the 7-08.

Check out his posts.

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This has been a very helpful thread for me over the last few years as I've started playing with the 7-08. Thought I'd give back a little bit and share three loads that are working well for me in a rather picky 7-08.

120 gr TTSX/50.0 gr Big Game/WLR primer/Alpha brass seated at 2.805" COAL. I'm getting 2970 fps from a 20" barrel. I could probably step this one up a bit but I'm happy with the accuracy at this level. Nosler data shows the 120 Ballistic Tip and a max load of 52.0 gr of Big Game for 3267 fps from a 26" barrel.

130 gr Speer Boat Tail/48.0 gr StaBALL6.5/WLR primer/PPU brass seated at 2.805" COAL. This one gives 2849 fps from the 20" barrel. Not close to a max load. Mild load for practice but I'm sure it would work fine for deer. Hodgdon data goes clear up to 51.2 gr of StaBALL6.5 with the Sierra 130 gr bullet.

160 gr Speer Hot Cor/46.0 StaBALL6.5/WLR primer/Alpha brass seated at 2.866". Velocity is about 2662 fps from the same 20" barrel. This load is as hot as I care to go with my components in my rifle. Kinda reminiscent of an old fashioned 7x57 load. The Hodgdon site shows that they were able to go clear up to 47.7 gr of StaBALL6.5 and push a Speer 160 Boat Tail 2825 fps from a 24" barrel. I started getting a bit of sticky bolt lift at much above my 46 grains.

General observations: These three loads share almost identical point of impact at 100 yds but, of course, spread out a good bit beyond that. StaBALL6.5 seems to be the velocity king in the 7-08 but I find the numbers on the Hodgdon website to be optimistic in terms of charge weights (in my rifle at least). Contrary to the experience of many others (whom I appreciate and respect), I get slightly better accuracy with NON-magnum primers with Big Game. Varget is accurate but slow. PPU brass is good stuff. Alpha brass is VERY good stuff. I really wanted to shoot 150 gr ELDX's but I couldn't get decent accuracy with 'em outta this rifle - we're talking some groups of 4" for 5 at 100 yds. Best groups with that bullet at around 2". The Hornady 154 gr IL wasn't a whole lot better. It shoots 140 TSX's and 139 IL's decent but shows a marked preference for the Speers. I'm normally ambivalent about Speer bullets but I guess we have to let the rifle decide.

Thanks to all that have contributed!


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by duckster
I have some 120 grain BT and lots of RL15. Sounds like 44-45 grain works well with that bullet? Rifle is a Sako M75

You'll kick some asss with that load and rifle.

Ended up at 44 gr. with the 120 grain BT. 5 shot groups right at 1 inch consistently. Need to shoot it through the new Garmin chronograph just to see where they are

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