I have a new Ruger LH 7-08 heading my way. Never loaded for a 7-08 need some loading sugestions. Have lots of RL-15 , 4320, 4350, WW 760. Bullets from 120 gr to 175.
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44-45gr R-15 and the 120 B-Tips has been a standard load for the 7-08 around here for some time. I've never tried the other loads posted so I can't comment.
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W760/H414 have always been the ideal speed and accuracy combo champs for me with 140-150 weights. Had good luck with faster powders nd lighter bullets: H335 and Varget; RL19 and 7828 work well with the heavies; 4350 with 160s. Those are my results. I doubt you'll have trouble putting the rifle to work with what you have though.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
My 7-08 is a Weatherby so we all know how the free bore is but I run 160 grain Sierra SBT with 46.2gr of RE-19. Group is around 3/4 at 100yds. Don't know the speed as I've never run it through the chrono. Primer is CCI 210, OAL is 2.765.
140gr Accubond 48.0gr Ramshot Big Game for 2902fps
150gr Partiton 49.0gr Ramshot Hunter for 2760fps
Both sub-MOA (after working the trigger and floating the barrel.)
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I shoot the 120 tsx with a max load of H414 and it shoots lights out! It should put a whoopin on some deer's behind this year. I also had good luck with 49.5 H414 with 120 BT. W760 is the same powder and works great in the 7-08!
I have a new Ruger LH 7-08 heading my way. Never loaded for a 7-08 need some loading sugestions. Have lots of RL-15 , 4320, 4350, WW 760. Bullets from 120 gr to 175.
For my new FN Win Model 70 in 7-08, I want straight to 140 grain Nosler Partitions for a Deer load. I compared case capacities of the 7-08 and the 7x57, and reduced the powder charge for the starting 7-08 load. I have several 7x57's and best accuracy with 140's is with 47.0 grains of H-414, same powder as 760 which you have. I dropped the charge weight to 45.0 grains for the 7-08, and proceeded to shoot a 3 shot, 1/2" group my first outing with the new M-70, after zeroing the scope. That load is a keeper, for my rifle. Also, I wanted a Varmint load for the M-70, so I loaded up some 100 grain Sierra HP's with 42.0 grains of Varget, and repeated the 3 shot, 1/2" group at 100 yards. I was using a Weaver V-16 set at 16x for the load testing. Fed 210M primers were used in both loads.
Shot the New Ruger LH 22" Hawkeye 7-08. bedded action & action screws, barrel forend pad left in. Probably free float it most groups had 2 shots < .5" 3 rd shot group opened up. My test loads in my rifle, awful conditions 15 to 30 MPH wind. New WW brass, CCI primers all 3 shot groups at 100 yards
Big Game (47.5) GR 2793, 2810 FPS, 140 Sierra GK 3 @ 1.3"
RL-15 USA (45) GR 2925, 2901,FPS, 120 Nosler Bal. Tip 31.4"
(44.5) Gr WW 760 2510 FPS, 160 Speer FB 3 @ 1.1"
RL-15 USA (44) GR 2812, 2814, FPS, 140 Nosler AB 3 @ 1.9"
RL-15 USA (44) GR 2759, 2779, FPS, 140 Nosler Bal. Tip 3@ 1.32"
Test loads in New Rifle worked up to book max in my rifle. Do velocitys look normal or slow for a 22" barrel?
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W760/H414 have always been the ideal speed and accuracy combo champs for me with 140-150 weights. Had good luck with faster powders nd lighter bullets: H335 and Varget; RL19 and 7828 work well with the heavies; 4350 with 160s. Those are my results. I doubt you'll have trouble putting the rifle to work with what you have though.
Second this - W760 gets 'er done with 140 Accubonds or 145 Hot Cors - both in velocity and accuracy. Varget or RL-15 both work well with 120 gr bullets.
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Shot the New Ruger LH 22" Hawkeye 7-08. bedded action & action screws, barrel forend pad left in. Probably free float it most groups had 2 shots < .5" 3 rd shot group opened up. My test loads in my rifle, awful conditions 15 to 30 MPH wind. New WW brass, CCI primers all 3 shot groups at 100 yards
Big Game (47.5) GR 2793, 2810 FPS, 140 Sierra GK 3 @ 1.3"
RL-15 USA (45) GR 2925, 2901,FPS, 120 Nosler Bal. Tip 31.4"
(44.5) Gr WW 760 2510 FPS, 160 Speer FB 3 @ 1.1"
RL-15 USA (44) GR 2812, 2814, FPS, 140 Nosler AB 3 @ 1.9"
RL-15 USA (44) GR 2759, 2779, FPS, 140 Nosler Bal. Tip 3@ 1.32"
Test loads in New Rifle worked up to book max in my rifle. Do velocitys look normal or slow for a 22" barrel?
Just a note here. I did sand the forend "lump" out of the barrel channel for my two Ruger 77's. I did no before and after testing however. Both rifles now shoot groups about half the size you're getting; between 1/2" and 3/4" for 3 shots at 100 yards. I have a "thing" about forend pressure points. I don't like them and feel they are only required to mask another problem with bedding. With good barrels, good stock bedding, and a good load, free floating barrels should shoot best...( It says here in fine print anyway , except for the 7 Rem 722's I have that shoot GREAT with barrels fully bedded all the way to the tip of the forend.. I don't want to confuse anyone here with any facts... )
I'm still shooting a grain or so below Hogdon's max for H4350 and the 145gr Speer BT. Due to the nose profile, I can reach the lands for a light touch, which probably bumps pressure up just a bit. Yields right at 2,700fps from a 20" 700. Is very tough on hogs and deer so far.
Have settled on a couple of accurate loads 47.5 Gr of Ram Shot Big Game and 140 gr Nosler Ballistic tip and around 50 gr of RS BG with the 120 gr Ballistic Tip.
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Enough Varget or H4350 to make a 139-140 grain bullet go 2800 fps works for me. Varget has proven to be slightly more accurate on average, but not by much. H4895 also works well, but with slightly less velocity IME.
I've been shooting a 7mm-08 since 1991. I have owned three, and all shot well with a Ken Waters Pet Load: 43.0 grains of WW748 under a 139 Hornady Spire Point. I have also used 140 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips with that load. My Remington Model Seven will group them better than I can shoot. The Model Seven chronographs around 2,650 fps with an 18-1/2" barrel, and a 22" barrel is at least 100 fps faster. I also like 47 grains of WW760 with the same bullet.
I use the Ken Waters Pet load of 43.0 grains of WW 748 under a 139 Hornady bullet. It also works with a 140 grain bullet. Another load I have used and liked is 47.0 grains of WW 760, same bullets.
I've been using the 748 load in my Remington Model 7 since I bought it in 1991. It likes that load and not many others. Other 7mm-08 rifles I have owned weren't as finicky, like my Tikka.
I agree DF. It was the Fire that got me to try Pharm's infamous Big Game loads, and low and behold they are just as accurate as my RL-17 loads, but I gain a little bit of speed. Always love seeing whats working for others.
I agree DF. It was the Fire that got me to try Pharm's infamous Big Game loads, and low and behold they are just as accurate as my RL-17 loads, but I gain a little bit of speed. Always love seeing whats working for others.
Yep.
And that info saves barrels. If we had to shoot enough combos to find those "Pet Loads", we'd be forever swapping out barrels.
So, the Fire is cost effective...
That's a good excuse if you ever get accused of spending too much time on the computer.
'Farmer, With the advent of Photobucket screwing the pooch, I can't see your load data. Nosler max for the 140 with Big Game is 47.5 and that appears to be a compressed load. Is that what you're using? Thx, Marty
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I was a big fan of the 120 gr bullets in my 7-08 but I now am loading the 150eldx with RL17 and it is a awesome load. I'm getting 2900fps and 1/2 moa out to 500 yards which is as far as I've shot it.
I was a big fan of the 120 gr bullets in my 7-08 but I now am loading the 150eldx with RL17 and it is a awesome load. I'm getting 2900fps and 1/2 moa out to 500 yards which is as far as I've shot it.
That's pretty fast for a 150 in the 7-08...
You gotta watch RL-17. It can get way over SAAMI max without pressure signs.
I was a big fan of the 120 gr bullets in my 7-08 but I now am loading the 150eldx with RL17 and it is a awesome load. I'm getting 2900fps and 1/2 moa out to 500 yards which is as far as I've shot it.
That's pretty fast for a 150 in the 7-08...
You gotta watch RL-17. It can get way over SAAMI max without pressure signs.
DF
+1
Unless his is a particularly long barrel, that load is WAY over max pressure.
I love the 7-08, but it's always been my impression it's one of the most hotrodded cartridges out there. If a guy wants a 280, that's what he should get.
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I was a big fan of the 120 gr bullets in my 7-08 but I now am loading the 150eldx with RL17 and it is a awesome load. I'm getting 2900fps and 1/2 moa out to 500 yards which is as far as I've shot it.
That's pretty fast for a 150 in the 7-08...
You gotta watch RL-17. It can get way over SAAMI max without pressure signs.
DF
+1
Unless his is a particularly long barrel, that load is WAY over max pressure.
I love the 7-08, but it's always been my impression it's one of the most hotrodded cartridges out there. If a guy wants a 280, that's what he should get.
Amen guys, and I don't understand why either. I really enjoy the modest recoil in my 2800' 140gr loads, and my 3000' 120 BT loads. They are a joy to shoot.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
My bbl is 25.5" long and my load is 45.5gr of RL17 .. I have loaded my nosler brass 5 times now with this load and that brass is as tight as the first time I loaded it. I guess Berger is releasing dangerous load data then .. They got 2830 fps with a 24" and 45.9 gr of RL17......
My bbl is 25.5" long and my load is 45.5gr of RL17 .. I have loaded my nosler brass 5 times now with this load and that brass is as tight as the first time I loaded it. I guess Berger is releasing dangerous load data then .. They got 2830 fps with a 24" and 45.9 gr of RL17......
Berger doesn't test loads with pressure barrels, it publishes QuickLoad predictions.
You're 70 fps over their max guess with 1.5" more barrel.
Not country I care to be in... but undoubtdly your rifle can handle a load over 64,000 psi.
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140 Partition, WLRM, 2.805", Rem brass. 2870 fps at the muzzle.
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Thanks P, I'll see what 47.0 does and maybe go up a skoosh....
Makes a big difference what brass your using. Remington brass will take 47.5 gr. Of Big Game under the 140 gr. Partition in my 7mm-08s no problem and like Pharmseller, I get a little over 2800 fps. However, I’ve got a couple hundred Lapua brass that I back the load down to 46.5 gr. and get the same velocity. Lapua brass is a little thicker than Remington’s so builds pressure with less powder.
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In my 7-08 41.6 of RL15 and 140 Nosler Bal. Tips work wonders.
RL15 is a great powder in the 7mm-08 and is all I used to use. I just like that Big Game gives a little more velocity, is clean burning, and is temperature change resistant. Plus, it is more accurate with the 120 gr. Ballistic Tips (in my rifles) which is the bullet I shoot the most.
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[quote=243Win but undoubtdly your rifle can handle a load over 64,000 psi.
most modern bolt action can handle 2 times that pressure, Remington test there actions at 175psi with no failure
Holy crap!?
Well let's put it in an easier way if Remington actions could only handle 65000 PSI, Remington would be sued to death an out-of-business that's why they're pressure test them so high for liability. On a another note I friend and I tried to blow up a rusty Remington action once for a hunter safety course loaded a 30-06 full of red dot. Tied it to a tire after the dust cleared and a tire quit spinning we examine the action and nothing was done to the action other than the bolt expanded out into the counterbore that you could not open the action, had to remove the barrel to get it apart. The brass was also expanded or welded to the inside of the chamber, primer pocket double its size.
Back in the late 90s RL-22 had a problem and they did a recall on that powder as it wasn't mixed properly and it had a high pressure spike. I had about 15 lb of this powder and I called and they told me that the samples that they tested had a spike of about 87000 to 95000 PSI, I used this powder, had 15 pounds of it, till after the 3rd round of all the primer pockets enlarged. That said action is still running today and is good shape, it's a blueprinted 700 action and it shows no sign of stretching or bulging of the action
I recently put together a Howa Mountain rifle with the lightweight barrel and bansner stock. Also had it bedded and factory trigger tuned and set to 2.5 bls.
I tried several different loads using 120 NBT, 140 NAB, and 150 BTs with Varget and RL17. Everything was around 1-1.5", although these were the first rounds down the barrel.
Then I found some Big Game and decided to try Pharmseller's load. 140g NAB, 47.5g Big Game, Win LR Mag primer, at 2.800" and the first load shot like this. 2,820 FPS in a 20" barrel. No more load development needed.
I recently put together a Howa Mountain rifle with the lightweight barrel and bansner stock. Also had it bedded and factory trigger tuned and set to 2.5 bls.
I tried several different loads using 120 NBT, 140 NAB, and 150 BTs with Varget and RL17. Everything was around 1-1.5", although these were the first rounds down the barrel.
Then I found some Big Game and decided to try Pharmseller's load. 140g NAB, 47.5g Big Game, Win LR Mag primer, at 2.800" and the first load shot like this. 2,820 FPS in a 20" barrel. No more load development needed.
And a single shot at 225 yards will drop any bull.
Note the entrance wound.
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I recently put together a Howa Mountain rifle with the lightweight barrel and bansner stock. Also had it bedded and factory trigger tuned and set to 2.5 bls.
I tried several different loads using 120 NBT, 140 NAB, and 150 BTs with Varget and RL17. Everything was around 1-1.5", although these were the first rounds down the barrel.
Then I found some Big Game and decided to try Pharmseller's load. 140g NAB, 47.5g Big Game, Win LR Mag primer, at 2.800" and the first load shot like this. 2,820 FPS in a 20" barrel. No more load development needed.
And a single shot at 225 yards will drop any bull.
Note the entrance wound.
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Veddy nice...
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I recently put together a Howa Mountain rifle with the lightweight barrel and bansner stock. Also had it bedded and factory trigger tuned and set to 2.5 bls.
I tried several different loads using 120 NBT, 140 NAB, and 150 BTs with Varget and RL17. Everything was around 1-1.5", although these were the first rounds down the barrel.
Then I found some Big Game and decided to try Pharmseller's load. 140g NAB, 47.5g Big Game, Win LR Mag primer, at 2.800" and the first load shot like this. 2,820 FPS in a 20" barrel. No more load development needed.
And a single shot at 225 yards will drop any bull.
My bbl is 25.5" long and my load is 45.5gr of RL17 .. I have loaded my nosler brass 5 times now with this load and that brass is as tight as the first time I loaded it. I guess Berger is releasing dangerous load data then .. They got 2830 fps with a 24" and 45.9 gr of RL17......
Berger doesn't test loads with pressure barrels, it publishes QuickLoad predictions.
You're 70 fps over their max guess with 1.5" more barrel.
Not country I care to be in... but undoubtdly your rifle can handle a load over 64,000 psi.
John Barsness has a 7-08 load posted in his The Big Book of Gun Gack of 45.5 Re17 behind Nosler 150 BTs at 2827 fps with a 22" barrel. 243Win's load with the 25.5" barrel seems reasonable. I've been shooting the 45.5 load for awhile albeit an OAL of 2.86" and get just over 2800 fps in a 24" barrel.
In the several 7mm-08s that I have owned and/or loaded for, H4350 worked fine, but not quite as good as Big Game. It was accurate enough, but BG is cleaner burning, slightly more accurate, and gives more velocity within pressure limits. Plus, Big Game meters fabulously thru a powder measure.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
Anyone using Hornady's 139 BTSP in the 7-08 with H4350 or Varget?
I used to use the 139 Interlock and h4350. My load was near max and shot really well. Most manuals top out at about 46 grains of H4350, but Mule Deer says that the 139 IL has a shorter bearing surface and can handle up to 50 grains. My best accuracy was about 48 grains, so I stopped there. Then I went to Big Game and 120 BTs and haven't looked back.
My bbl is 25.5" long and my load is 45.5gr of RL17 .. I have loaded my nosler brass 5 times now with this load and that brass is as tight as the first time I loaded it. I guess Berger is releasing dangerous load data then .. They got 2830 fps with a 24" and 45.9 gr of RL17......
In my 22" tube, 45.6gr of RL17 under a 150ELDX @ 2.800" in a Nosler case gets me 2,770fps and 1/2" groups.
RL17 is "peaky"....pressure can get away from you quickly.
Awesome man. Your nephew did great!!. I passed up a spike this year. Walked away with a good feeling that I'm letting it grow bigger for next year. Generally I'll shoot a spike and not care, but this one was small compared to the others I've taken.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
They’re getting exactly what they want over there. I ain’t going back.
BTW, my other nephew kilt his first buck this year with the same load, same rifle. 250 yards, double lung, 30 foot recovery. One of the best kill shots I’ve seen, and on his first to boot.
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They’re getting exactly what they want over there. I ain’t going back.
BTW, my other nephew kilt his first buck this year with the same load, same rifle. 250 yards, double lung, 30 foot recovery. One of the best kill shots I’ve seen, and on his first to boot.
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Well, that sucks, but good for your nephews. A first deer or elk is always something special.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
So far my go to has been 40gr Varget and 139gr Hornady Interlock. Just under MOA at 100, but trying a few more combo's this fall. Working up a good load for my niece to shoot as I'm taking her elk hunting in two years and want to give her plenty of time to practice! I may try some of the recipe's I found here! Thanks!
Still shooting H4350 with 140-145gr cup/core bullets, using near the Hogdon listed max. Makes around 2700fps in 18-20" barrels.
My other main load is for my daughter's rifle. We shoot the 120TTSX over H4895 from a 20" barrel. 42gr gives us mid-2,800's for velocity, while 43gr tops us out about 100-120fps faster (Barnes shows 42.8 as max in a Bartlein test barrel). The 42gr load is a comfortable one, about like a good .257 Roberts 120gr load.
Another carbine just gets the 139gr Hornady American Whitetail Interlock factory load. No idea on actual muzzle velocity, but it kills stuff fairly dead for $32 or so per box. Always a decent bullet choice in a 7mm-08.
I've not ran it across the chrono yet but the 150 Scenar in WW brass and 46.5grs of H4350 is keeping 5 shots in the 3/4" range with my Tikka. Hopefully I can chrono it today or tomorrow.
Looks pretty good H. I'm getting ready to go and try some 140gr TTSX's in my 7mm08 right now. Loaded them up lastnight. .100" off the lands and ready to rock and roll. Running Big Game powder. I didn't load up much, but hoping enough to show me an accuracy node I like. We shall see.
Couldn't pass up this deal:
Bought these a few months ago. Yes, even in these hard times there are still great deals out there to be found..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.
Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
beretzs, if you have some Varget it will get those 120 BT's close to 3000 fps for 22" barrel. If you have some Big Game or CFE223 either one will kick it up another notch.
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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
It wouldn't surprise me if you found another good charge by turning up the throttle on the H4895.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.
My classic shot mediocre, but it was a damn nice rifle. Got it for a great deal. Someone else wanted it more than I did, so I sent it down the road:
Those fwt's are nice rifles. You 2 are good at working up loads. I'm sure you will find a great load. I pulled the old Nikon off of my 7mm08 today and swapped it out for a New Burris FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex reticle. I've had issues with the factory Tikka rings in the past, so I swapped those out as well. Now back to the drawing board with the 140gr TTSX. The most promising loading was right at 2,820 fps with Big Game powder. I'm hoping to try that bullet on a buck this year. Dug 2 of those bullets out of the dirt bank and they weighed 130 and 130.8 gr's. 93-94% weight retention. Wondering how they will do on a thin skinned deer or elk...
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
4.1 mils put me on a 12” plate at 620yds this evening. I only had 2 misses and I knew they were when the trigger broke. Shooting off a backpack and no rear support.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.
Thanks John.
Here you go. The 140 BT load was a good one. I almost used this rifle and load for my sheep hunt in 2018. But I went and got all nostalgic and used a 270 Winchester instead.
Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
4.1 mils put me on a 12” plate at 620yds this evening. I only had 2 misses and I knew they were when the trigger broke. Shooting off a backpack and no rear support.
Sounds great. Do you think the majority of the shots would put them in the boiler room of a deer at that range? If not, maybe a 550 yard load for such critters... When I was shooting my 300wsm and 7mm rem mag in the canyons for practice, I was making sure I could put them on a paper plate at 800 yards. The shots I took on bucks were from 600-700 yards, while making sure there was very minimal wind. The updrafts coming out of the canyon from the river would push the bullet off the target during practice as much as 12" at 800 yards. Those scenars are slick pills. I'm imagining you are thinking of taking some long shots with that rifle.. The key point in your post was that you knew you had missed as soon as you pulled the trigger. That's what a lot of practice will tell you. Shooting long range can be quite rewarding and also quite frustrating. My 7mm08 Tikka is very lightweight and is not set up for long shots, nor have I found a great load that I'd feel comfortable shooting at that distance with. My 6.5 CM superlite is the same way. If I had to shoot a longrange buck again, I'd pull one of my CTR's out. Damn, I wish I could turn one of those into a 7mm08....
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.
Thanks John.
Here you go. The 140 BT load was a good one. I almost used this rifle and load for my sheep hunt in 2018. But I went and got all nostalgic and used a 270 Winchester instead.
Good stuff right there. My Tikka didn't like that stiff of a load with the 150gr Hornady ELDX. 45gr gave pretty good accuracy though:
Close to moa. I'm hoping it does better with the 140gr TTSX or the LRX's I have set off to the side for it.. J, I know you and Pharm like that magnum primer. Is it worth considering for that powder? I may try some CCI250's, if you think that will make a difference. I also have 3,000 BR2'S to play with.. In the group above, I was using CCI200's..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.
Thanks John.
Here you go. The 140 BT load was a good one. I almost used this rifle and load for my sheep hunt in 2018. But I went and got all nostalgic and used a 270 Winchester instead.
Good stuff right there. My Tikka didn't like that stiff of a load with the 150gr Hornady ELDX. 45gr gave pretty good accuracy though:
Close to moa. I'm hoping it does better with the 140gr TTSX or the LRX's I have set off to the side for it.. J, I know you and Pharm like that magnum primer. Is it worth considering for that powder? I may try some CCI250's, if you think that will make a difference. I also have 3,000 BR2'S to play with.. In the group above, I was using CCI200's..
Only time I used magnum primers was with this powder. I tried regular large rifle primers. The results were not that great, so I tried magnums better results.
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Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.
I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.
Thanks John.
Here you go. The 140 BT load was a good one. I almost used this rifle and load for my sheep hunt in 2018. But I went and got all nostalgic and used a 270 Winchester instead.
Good stuff right there. My Tikka didn't like that stiff of a load with the 150gr Hornady ELDX. 45gr gave pretty good accuracy though:
Close to moa. I'm hoping it does better with the 140gr TTSX or the LRX's I have set off to the side for it.. J, I know you and Pharm like that magnum primer. Is it worth considering for that powder? I may try some CCI250's, if you think that will make a difference. I also have 3,000 BR2'S to play with.. In the group above, I was using CCI200's..
Only time I used magnum primers was with this powder. I tried regular large rifle primers. The results were not great if I remember right.
Thanks J. I know Pharm has said the same thing as you have. I just have a hard time shying away from the CCI200's and BR2's. I'll give the CCI250's a try... Damn, that means I better go out and prep the brass I fired off yesterday. I'll do some testing tomorrow..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
4.1 mils put me on a 12” plate at 620yds this evening. I only had 2 misses and I knew they were when the trigger broke. Shooting off a backpack and no rear support.
Sounds great. Do you think the majority of the shots would put them in the boiler room of a deer at that range? If not, maybe a 550 yard load for such critters... When I was shooting my 300wsm and 7mm rem mag in the canyons for practice, I was making sure I could put them on a paper plate at 800 yards. The shots I took on bucks were from 600-700 yards, while making sure there was very minimal wind. The updrafts coming out of the canyon from the river would push the bullet off the target during practice as much as 12" at 800 yards. Those scenars are slick pills. I'm imagining you are thinking of taking some long shots with that rifle.. The key point in your post was that you knew you had missed as soon as you pulled the trigger. That's what a lot of practice will tell you. Shooting long range can be quite rewarding and also quite frustrating. My 7mm08 Tikka is very lightweight and is not set up for long shots, nor have I found a great load that I'd feel comfortable shooting at that distance with. My 6.5 CM superlite is the same way. If I had to shoot a longrange buck again, I'd pull one of my CTR's out. Damn, I wish I could turn one of those into a 7mm08....
Other than the 2 that missed my grouping was pretty good. Inside the boiler room on an animal for sure. That said I don’t think I’d shoot at an animal much over 400yds and everything would need to be near perfect for that. But, confidence in the setup, absolutely. I think I’m the weak link here.
My tikka is a T3x stainless, SWFA 6x in Sportsmatch 84’s, 7.5lbs all together I think.
I actually got a good deal on the Scenars and will probably only use them for practice. I have 200-250 140 Accubonds I’ll hunt with, they shoot great out to 650yds too though.
A paper plate at 800yds is dang good. I think we are going to try 800yds next trip, going to have to do some sawing to make a spot but it should be fun. Hopefully I’ll hit earth from that distance. Lol
Many good powder and bullets options for the 7mm08 - almost too many combinations.
A summary of my experiences, and recommendations to those getting started with 7mm08 handloading:
A 140grain cup and core bullet should be your foundation. I prefer Sierra Pro Hunters, but Sierra Games Kings, Hornady Spire Point, and Hornady BTSP, all work 95% interchangeably. These bullets lack plastic tips, and give you more case capacity. They are also less expensive.
A 140 Sierra Pro Hunter from a 22" barrel, 2,800" OAL: *47.2 grains of IMR4350 will go 2,830fps; the smallest groups I have shot with this rifle are this load; IMR4350 does lose about 1fps per degree F, but point of aim and accuracy don't seem to change; I shot a doe a few season ago when it was 32F out - she didn't seem to notice - took a few steps and fell over *49.5 of H4350 runs about 2,880fps and gives 1/2" groups; velocity and point of aim do not change with temp; the downside is it is compressed *47.5 of Big Game runs about 2,850fps and groups are less than 1"; I have tested several primer brands with BG, and WLR worked best for me; others on the board seem to prefer WLRM, so you may have to experiment *RL17 is jekell and hyde; I won't list a powder charge, but stop at 2,920fps; I have shot 3/8" groups several times with this load, but you have to be really careful with working up on the top end - pressure escalate quickly! If you normal charge increment is 0.5 grains, cut that down to 0.3. Measuring case head expansion helps; also - do not interchange bullets once you find a powder charge - small changes in case volume (bullet length) seem to have an effect *47.0 of RL16 goes 2,850fps and prints 3/4" groups *48.0 of IMR4451 hits 2,800fps and less than 1" groups *W760 shoots 1.5" groups from 47.0 to 49.0 grains - all the same point of impact - top end velocity is 2,850fps; it does lose velocity with temp, bot POI doesn't change
140 Nosler Partitions can be substituted somewhat seamlessly if you prefer to hunt with them. Load work up with standard cup and core bullet, then validate charge/velocity/pressure with partition (mini work up session).
Speer's 145 offerings seem to work well with the above powders, you will just be using slightly less powder.
If you want to try longer bullets, Nosler AB, Barnes, Hornady SST, etc, H4350 and RL16 may give you compression issues if you are limited to 2.800" OAL. BG or RL17 are dense powders, and would be my recommendations to avoid capacity issues.
Almost any medium burn powder works in 7mm08 with a 140, but velocity may be slightly lower (2750fps or so); Varget, RL15, IMR4064, etc
With the component shortage, just try and find a 140 and a medium powder - it will do the job.
49.5 grains BG got me 3050 fps and great accuracy. Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primer. Low ES, around 20. Tikka stainless, so 22 1/2” barrel. Much more got me ejector marks.
51.5 grains BG with 120 BT got me 3126 fps and even better accuracy. Same primer.
2.805” COAL for both.
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What rifle / action are you shooting these in? Because of mag constraints I can't get near that COAL. I am kissing at 2.887" Mag constraints bring me to 2.830" Can't get much powder in the case with the Scenars doing that. My rifle shoots the 120 BT really well but I wanted to play with the Scenar a little since they shoot so good in my 6.5 Creedmoor.
Rifle is an older Rem Varmint Special with the heavy barrel. I have shot it out to 550 yards with the 120 BT's despite the low BC
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I’ll be watching. I just snagged a little 7-08 Featherweight and need a quick load to get it in deer hunting shape for the fall. Seems to shoot my reduced load of H4895 and 120 BT real decent.
Let me dig up my notes tomorrow on my load info for my 7/08 in a featherweight. It was shooting 140 Nosler bt pretty good.
My classic shot mediocre, but it was a damn nice rifle. Got it for a great deal. Someone else wanted it more than I did, so I sent it down the road:
Those fwt's are nice rifles. You 2 are good at working up loads. I'm sure you will find a great load. I pulled the old Nikon off of my 7mm08 today and swapped it out for a New Burris FFII 3-9x40 with ballistic plex reticle. I've had issues with the factory Tikka rings in the past, so I swapped those out as well. Now back to the drawing board with the 140gr TTSX. The most promising loading was right at 2,820 fps with Big Game powder. I'm hoping to try that bullet on a buck this year. Dug 2 of those bullets out of the dirt bank and they weighed 130 and 130.8 gr's. 93-94% weight retention. Wondering how they will do on a thin skinned deer or elk...
The 140ttsx is a dense bullet. Would be great for elk. Launched at 3200 from a 7 mag just not much terminal damage on deer sized game. At 7/08 velocities it would be even less so. This has been my experience with them.
Was just thinking, it might be harder to come up with a bad 7/08 load than a good one. The 7mm Mauser Short.
I definitely achieved this yesterday with some load testing that I did. The best group I got was with 120 Sierra pro hunter 42.5 grains of IMR4064 WLRP 2.800 COAL . To my surprise the worst group I got was with 140 sierra game king 47.5 grains ramshot big game WLRP 2.800 COAL and the same load with the 140 pro hunter wasnt much better. Was really hoping that the 140 pro hunter with big game would give me the same results as other have gotten but it looks like I'll be shooting the 120's and see how they do performance wise on deer where I'm at.
What rifle / action are you shooting these in? Because of mag constraints I can't get near that COAL. I am kissing at 2.887" Mag constraints bring me to 2.830" Can't get much powder in the case with the Scenars doing that. My rifle shoots the 120 BT really well but I wanted to play with the Scenar a little since they shoot so good in my 6.5 Creedmoor.
Rifle is an older Rem Varmint Special with the heavy barrel. I have shot it out to 550 yards with the 120 BT's despite the low BC
Mine is a Tikka T3x and I’m using Mountain Tactical mags.
Loaded up some 120gr ttsx with CCI 200, once fired Rem brass, 44.5 gr. R15 and 50gr big game for my featherweight today, everything the same except powder. R15 4 shot group .75" and big game all 4 touching. later on will see what they do at 2 and 300yds.
Loaned my Howa out twice last year.... both times daughters of a friend wanted to borrow it... He passed away last summer, so I was feeling too much pity, but they brought it back in good working order....
Load for them which I do for kids...
30 grains IMR 4198, and a 120 gr Ballistic Tip....Both had success, blacktails.. so not a big challenged..
but it did what It was supposed to do with no issues...
both times the shots were 150 yds or under...
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I must be tired and feeling weak lol. Hells canyon speed, 100% factory rifle Neck sized only on Nosler brass. Trimmed to length after first firing Federal 210 47.2 grains of big game 140 partition loaded to .040 short of the rifling 2922 fps avg 11 sd .55-.65 3 round groups on 10x, every time Don’t really tinker with this anymore.
I’m using cfe 223 with 120 ttsx alpha munitions brass. Browning x bolt 7mm/08 120 ttsx/alpha brass new WW primers Cfe 223 45.5 grs Coal 2.8 Velocity 3050ish Shot several 3 or 4 shot groups that range from just over half inch to just over an inch. Its new rifle and I have some tinkering to do but deer season has started so it’s go time for that
Rummaging through my collection of .284" pills the other night, and "Hey, there are those 130's...." (Speer BTSP; purchased ostensibly for 7-30 Waters.) Ran some over IMR3031 in my M70 Fwt and they shoot like a house a'fire. Hmmmm
Shot the New Ruger LH 22" Hawkeye 7-08. bedded action & action screws, barrel forend pad left in. Probably free float it most groups had 2 shots < .5" 3 rd shot group opened up. My test loads in my rifle, awful conditions 15 to 30 MPH wind. New WW brass, CCI primers all 3 shot groups at 100 yards
Big Game (47.5) GR 2793, 2810 FPS, 140 Sierra GK 3 @ 1.3"
RL-15 USA (45) GR 2925, 2901,FPS, 120 Nosler Bal. Tip 31.4"
(44.5) Gr WW 760 2510 FPS, 160 Speer FB 3 @ 1.1"
RL-15 USA (44) GR 2812, 2814, FPS, 140 Nosler AB 3 @ 1.9"
RL-15 USA (44) GR 2759, 2779, FPS, 140 Nosler Bal. Tip 3@ 1.32"
Test loads in New Rifle worked up to book max in my rifle. Do velocitys look normal or slow for a 22" barrel?
Loads from 2009 been using RS BG in the 7-08 for a while
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I'm not publishing the amount of powder, because this was touchy. The difference between WIN and FC brass was enough to give me pressure problems. I ended up with between 2940 and 2990 fps-- two averages from two trips out.
My previous load with Varget had given me velocities just under 2700 fps. Not impressive, but it was enough to take deer and boar.
I'm not publishing the amount of powder, because this was touchy. The difference between WIN and FC brass was enough to give me pressure problems. I ended up with between 2940 and 2990 fps-- two averages from two trips out.
My previous load with Varget had given me velocities just under 2700 fps. Not impressive, but it was enough to take deer and boar.
I used SB6.5 with 130 Speers and Bitterroots for about the same speed. Real accurate as well.
I have a new Ruger LH 7-08 heading my way. Never loaded for a 7-08 need some loading sugestions. Have lots of RL-15 , 4320, 4350, WW 760. Bullets from 120 gr to 175.
Wouldn’t go too crazy buying bullets. I have a shelf full that l was talked into over the years.
Based on Pharmsellers advice, I switched to Big Game for 120 gr NBTs...based on Beretzs's thoughts I switched Hunter for 162 ELDMs. Both worked out well. Getting 3100 fps with the 120 NBTs and 2700+ with the 162's. 20" barrel.
Based on Pharmsellers advice, I switched to Big Game for 120 gr NBTs...based on Beretzs's thoughts I switched Hunter for 162 ELDMs. Both worked out well. Getting 3100 fps with the 120 NBTs and 2700+ with the 162's. 20" barrel.
Hoping to give the 162's a decent run this year. They shoot danged well..
I'm working on a load now using big game and 120 TTSX. As of right now the most accurate load I've found with this combo is 50.0 grains of big game using large rifle primers and a COAL of 2.750. Haven't tried magnum primers yet.
I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.
I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.
Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.
I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.
Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.
I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.
I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.
Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.
I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.
Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.
DF
To the detriment of their BC, this configuration of the Game King is relatively blunt, with a fat ogive. For my use of the .308", 165 grain version this means I can hang more of the full diameter portion of the bullet out in front of the case mouth without exceeding the magazine length limit. My theory is this aids alignment in the chamber throats and better groups follow.
I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.
I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.
Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.
I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.
Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.
DF
To the detriment of their BC, this configuration of the Game King is relatively blunt, with a fat ogive. For my use of the .308", 165 grain version this means I can hang more of the full diameter portion of the bullet out in front of the case mouth without exceeding the magazine length limit. My theory is this aids alignment in the chamber throats and better groups follow.
For my uses the lower BC doesn't amount to much.
Interesting observation.
B.C. not a big issue with me, either. I'm not into long range shooting, 2-300 yds, about my limit for most everything.
I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.
I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.
Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.
I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.
Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.
DF
To the detriment of their BC, this configuration of the Game King is relatively blunt, with a fat ogive. For my use of the .308", 165 grain version this means I can hang more of the full diameter portion of the bullet out in front of the case mouth without exceeding the magazine length limit. My theory is this aids alignment in the chamber throats and better groups follow.
For my uses the lower BC doesn't amount to much.
I picked up some 165 HPBT GK's for just that reason to try in my 308 Montana.
I have looked for those 7mm 140 HPBT GK's since you mentioned em DF and they are rare to catch in stock. I'd bet they are dandys on deer. Eventually I'll find some of them.
Yeah, finding them can be a challenge.
I had some on hand, loaded them, was surprised how well they shot.
Took them deer hunting, pleasantly surprised how well they performed.
I generally don't think "Sierra" when considering deer bullets, but these perform pretty well, exceeded my expectations.
Now, for tougher stuff, I'd probably go with tougher bullets. But, these are tough enough for local WT's and hogs.
DF
To the detriment of their BC, this configuration of the Game King is relatively blunt, with a fat ogive. For my use of the .308", 165 grain version this means I can hang more of the full diameter portion of the bullet out in front of the case mouth without exceeding the magazine length limit. My theory is this aids alignment in the chamber throats and better groups follow.
For my uses the lower BC doesn't amount to much.
I picked up some 165 HPBT GK's for just that reason to try in my 308 Montana.
In the early 2000s before Remington component brass went to pot I used to fill it with 165 grain BTHP Game Kings and 46 grains of Varget for very accurate results in several 308 rifles with factory chambers. It knocked the snot out of hogs too.
139 Interlocks over Varget at 2800 fps shoots .5" - .7" in two Kimbers. 120 TTSXs over Varget shoot almost as well.
On another note, does anyone have any experience with 120 Hammer Hunters or 132 Hammer HHTs? I'm heading to the range Friday, to shoot a ladder of each till I find pressure. Then I'll back off a grain and start to look for accuracy. I'm anxious to see if they're worth all the hype. Anybody have any wisdom to share?
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Check out the Absolute Hunter. They can be shot a good bit faster than usual. Google them. Pretty neat technology.
Interesting concept.
DF
I have some 172 .284, 130 .284 and 69 .243 AH's on my bench. The 172's, I plan to try in the 7 Mashburn Super, the 130's in my Kimber 7-08 and the 69's in my 243 or 6 Creed.. Pretty excited to give them a try.
Check out the Absolute Hunter. They can be shot a good bit faster than usual. Google them. Pretty neat technology.
Interesting concept.
DF
I have some 172 .284, 130 .284 and 69 .243 AH's on my bench. The 172's, I plan to try in the 7 Mashburn Super, the 130's in my Kimber 7-08 and the 69's in my 243 or 6 Creed.. Pretty excited to give them a try.
Check out the Absolute Hunter. They can be shot a good bit faster than usual. Google them. Pretty neat technology.
Interesting concept.
DF
I have some 172 .284, 130 .284 and 69 .243 AH's on my bench. The 172's, I plan to try in the 7 Mashburn Super, the 130's in my Kimber 7-08 and the 69's in my 243 or 6 Creed.. Pretty excited to give them a try.
Interesting.
Look forward to your report.
DF
Nothing but time! We're having a heat wave right now, might as well load and shoot since I can't ride the snowmobile!
The 7-08 is one of my favorite cartridges. I have several Remingtons including a custom, a Sako, and have just added a Tikka compact which appears to shoot wonderfully. I usually stay with 140 grain or lighter bullets. I have just come in to a box of Sierra 150 boattails and a box of Hornady 162 SST’s. Thinking about trying both a bit on targets. I usually use Varget or IMR 4064 and have used IMR 4350 with good results. I also have Reloder 15 in good supply. I’m thinking I might try the 4350 first. What are your collective thoughts? Thanks, and take care! Rick
The 7-08 is one of my favorite cartridges. I have several Remingtons including a custom, a Sako, and have just added a Tikka compact which appears to shoot wonderfully. I usually stay with 140 grain or lighter bullets. I have just come in to a box of Sierra 150 boattails and a box of Hornady 162 SST’s. Thinking about trying both a bit on targets. I usually use Varget or IMR 4064 and have used IMR 4350 with good results. I also have Reloder 15 in good supply. I’m thinking I might try the 4350 first. What are your collective thoughts? Thanks, and take care! Rick
As much as I like Varget, don’t forget about BG. Pharmseller has posted a good bit of info on BG in the 7-08.
This has been a very helpful thread for me over the last few years as I've started playing with the 7-08. Thought I'd give back a little bit and share three loads that are working well for me in a rather picky 7-08.
120 gr TTSX/50.0 gr Big Game/WLR primer/Alpha brass seated at 2.805" COAL. I'm getting 2970 fps from a 20" barrel. I could probably step this one up a bit but I'm happy with the accuracy at this level. Nosler data shows the 120 Ballistic Tip and a max load of 52.0 gr of Big Game for 3267 fps from a 26" barrel.
130 gr Speer Boat Tail/48.0 gr StaBALL6.5/WLR primer/PPU brass seated at 2.805" COAL. This one gives 2849 fps from the 20" barrel. Not close to a max load. Mild load for practice but I'm sure it would work fine for deer. Hodgdon data goes clear up to 51.2 gr of StaBALL6.5 with the Sierra 130 gr bullet.
160 gr Speer Hot Cor/46.0 StaBALL6.5/WLR primer/Alpha brass seated at 2.866". Velocity is about 2662 fps from the same 20" barrel. This load is as hot as I care to go with my components in my rifle. Kinda reminiscent of an old fashioned 7x57 load. The Hodgdon site shows that they were able to go clear up to 47.7 gr of StaBALL6.5 and push a Speer 160 Boat Tail 2825 fps from a 24" barrel. I started getting a bit of sticky bolt lift at much above my 46 grains.
General observations: These three loads share almost identical point of impact at 100 yds but, of course, spread out a good bit beyond that. StaBALL6.5 seems to be the velocity king in the 7-08 but I find the numbers on the Hodgdon website to be optimistic in terms of charge weights (in my rifle at least). Contrary to the experience of many others (whom I appreciate and respect), I get slightly better accuracy with NON-magnum primers with Big Game. Varget is accurate but slow. PPU brass is good stuff. Alpha brass is VERY good stuff. I really wanted to shoot 150 gr ELDX's but I couldn't get decent accuracy with 'em outta this rifle - we're talking some groups of 4" for 5 at 100 yds. Best groups with that bullet at around 2". The Hornady 154 gr IL wasn't a whole lot better. It shoots 140 TSX's and 139 IL's decent but shows a marked preference for the Speers. I'm normally ambivalent about Speer bullets but I guess we have to let the rifle decide.
Thanks to all that have contributed!
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I have some 120 grain BT and lots of RL15. Sounds like 44-45 grain works well with that bullet? Rifle is a Sako M75
You'll kick some asss with that load and rifle.
Ended up at 44 gr. with the 120 grain BT. 5 shot groups right at 1 inch consistently. Need to shoot it through the new Garmin chronograph just to see where they are