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for deer out to 300 yards or so 139 horn or 140 partition. or any of the bergers 140 or 168

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Although I agree that the 160gr. Accubond is probably the better all around weight, I currently use the 140 gr Accubond in my 7mm WSM. Hunting game heavier than deer is not in my immediate future.

Last fall I hit an antelope facing me in the chest at 100 yards. The bullet failed to make the diaphragm. Bang. Flop. Lungs and top of the heart were red goo.

This year I punched two sideways through another antelope at 315 yards. He humped up with the first shot and collapsed with the second. Damage to the organs looked a whole lot more like the damage I've seen from Ballistic Tips instead of Partitions, although it was obvious that the bullets were opening a bit later than BT's would have.

I plan on using the same load on whitetails next weekend. Guess I'll find out how well it works at about 50 yards. Field dressing may be a bit messy.


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MicScott-tree stand hunting? If so, just take a 139 Horn flat base, load it to 2700 and you'll be just fine... smile

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I have killed deer,pronghorn,bighorn,elk,and moose with 140gr bullets with no problems at all.My current bullet of choice is the 140gr TTSX.

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The old advice, from the old days when all we had were CC bullets(and the only premiums available were Noslers and a few Bitterroots,if you could get them)was that 160's were best for all-round in the 7 RM.Also, Remington factory 150 CoreLokts killed a lot of game.

That may be true today as well, but if you watch your bullet construction, today you can use almost any weight in a 7RM,from a tough 120 to a 175 and do pretty good.Last year there was a fellow on here who posted pics of elk he killed with the 120TTSX from, I think a 7MM WSM.Same same.

Nice thing about the 7RM is that you get good velocity with about any bullet weight without a lot of recoil.If anything the cartridge is better now than when it came out,thanks to all the great bullets.Other 7mm's with similar capacity do as well.




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My son just harvested a 10 pt buck yesterday with his 7mm Magnum
and a 120 Nosler BT @ 3300 fps muzzle velocity. He thinks it was about 250 yds away.
The deer only stayed on his feet for about 20 yds. His heart was broken. grin
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Pero,
You ever run the 154's or 150's with imr4350?
How much bigger or smaller is the mashburn compared to the rem mag?

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Kique, 63.0g of IMR 4350 with a 150g Nosler, Sierra or 154g Hornady with a Rem 9 1/2 primer is magic with most 7 Mags. Seat the bullet to touch the lands.

The 154g Hornady Sp is plenty of elk or large hogs.

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Bullets have changed but a lot of us luddites haven't. If you want to drive a light for calibre bullet at warp speed in a big 7 nowadays, you can probably find a bullet that is up to the task. And will hold together once it gets there. (much as it hurts me to say that frown ) But I still don't see any logic in having a half dozen loads and half a dozen bullets for one rifle. 120s for antelope, 140s for WTs, 150s for mulies, 160s for elk, etc. I am still a work up a good load with a good bullet and use it on everything. I just believe the 7mag was made to shoot a 160gr bullet and I have used it with excellent success on everything from antelope to elk.
IMO, if you want to shoot a lesser bullet, buy another rifle. smile


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But I still don't see any logic in having a half dozen loads and half a dozen bullets for one rifle. 120s for antelope, 140s for WTs, 150s for mulies, 160s for elk, etc. I am still a work up a good load with a good bullet and use it on everything.


I agree,and that is why I use the 140gr TTSX for all of my big game hunting.

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I thought the major differnce when all the magnums came out was to be able to drive heavier bullets faster, not necessarily lighter bullets. Heavier bullets + fatser velocity= more down range energy.


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But I still don't see any logic in having a half dozen loads and half a dozen bullets for one rifle. 120s for antelope, 140s for WTs, 150s for mulies, 160s for elk, etc. I am still a work up a good load with a good bullet and use it on everything.


I agree,and that is why I use the 140gr TTSX for all of my big game hunting.


Having too many loads easily becomes counter productive. But when I ran the 7 mag as my "one gun" I had a 130 gr Speer load and a 160 gr Partition load. That was really like having two different rifles and covered the gamut from antelope to elk quite nicely.

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Originally Posted by stillbeeman
But I still don't see any logic in having a half dozen loads and half a dozen bullets for one rifle. 120s for antelope, 140s for WTs, 150s for mulies, 160s for elk, etc. I am still a work up a good load with a good bullet and use it on everything.


No need for a half dozen loads, but the optimal bullet for our 100lb WT ain't optimal of 700lb elk. Besides, some of us enjoy working up loads and being able to use the same rifle for different game.

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140's are fine for mule deer on down. ie bonded or TSX.
I currently use the 150 grain nosler E-Tip and have no doubt it will be fine on Elk on down. The solid coppers retain most of their weight, and many step down in wt because of that. No loss in game performance.

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It was, Saddlesore, but then Roy Weatherby invented kenetic energy which meant if you took a light for calibre bullet and drove it fast enough, you didn't have to be able to aim, nor track, nor shoot, nor get very far from the truck, nor figure trajectory since Weatherby rounds actually rose during flight. If you hit the animal in the foot, that thar kinetic energy would blow his heart apart. Don'tchaknow wink
Kinda like the magic bullets of today that are supposed to out penetrate all others. That means when the magic bullet passes plum thru an animal, it will travel further than your bullet does when it passes plum thru an animal. smile


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Thanks Stillbeeman.That splains it to me. grin


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I don't have a bunch of loads but I do see wisdom in shooting 140's for deery creatures and 160/175 for elky/moose size creatures. 140's at 3250 is plain flat shooting, 160's at 3050 is about as flat as it gets without getting into serious recoil and portability.


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Mine shoots 150 grain Nosler Partitions better than 140's or 160's. So, that what I use. But, my buddy's rifle shoots 160's best, so he shoots that bullet weight.
I know the 150's are like that hammer of Thor killing Deer, and I'd expect the 160's to do the same. Deer, and Bear are about the largest animal we hunt here, except for the annual Elk Draw we have. I've never drawn.. grin I don't personally know anyone else who has drawn either. But, I keep applying, as do my kids. grin Someday, maybe???


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I'm with Saddlesore. I've always thought the big 7s were at their best with a 160 @ 3000 or even better the 175 partition @ 2800-2900 fps. Very high BC and SD, great performance on game, moderate recoil.

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I wouldn't overthink this. I used to use 120's and 140's for deer and never had a problem. I had one load with a 139 hornady that I thought was moving at 3400 because it would just mow deer down. I got the chronograph and found that it was only going 3100. One bullet that I would like to try is the 140 grain accubond. It seems like it could do it all from deer to elk.

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