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Listening to guy's talk about this bullet and that is entertaining. Everyone trying the latest and greatest looking for the perfect bullet! It doesn't exist and it never will!
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I'm using a fast twist with 105 AMAX's and RL22. Need to load some for a slow twist Rem 700 and may try some 85 TSX's in that. My son had some good kills on does with the 85 TSX in his 6mm-250.
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Still liking the 105gr Hornady HPBT in my factory Remington barrel. 3,000fps from a 21.5” tube with RL26.
Now with even more aplomb
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Just ordered 10 boxes of HSM 95 Gr SP from Midway on clearance for $12.66/box. Free shipping with code. I'll shoot that in the Rem 700 SPS. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021632084?pid=365100
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Ramshot Hunter shoots awesome. I love tac and x-terminator for 5.56. Decided to try more ramshot powders. After using Hunter in .243 and .270 I'm hooked.
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Gonna drag this one back up...  75gr Speer HP (the flying tuna can :D), 49.0gr Superformance, CCI-200, COAL 2.640". Looking for a good load for the Speer 70gr HP. Looking at Varget and Superformance for that bullet, too. Any load recommendations? Using these for coyotes from kissing distance out to 400 yards. Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
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I switched to Nosler 70gr BT and 4350 max charge way back.
Used to run the 75 gr Speers and 4895 back in college.
Whopped em good it did, but I think the change gave more zip.
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I switched to Nosler 70gr BT and 4350 max charge way back.
Used to run the 75 gr Speers and 4895 back in college.
Whopped em good it did, but I think the change gave more zip.
That 70 grain Ballistic Tip is one hell of a coyote bullet. Works pretty good on Midwest whitetails too.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Gonna drag this one back up... 75gr Speer HP (the flying tuna can :D), 49.0gr Superformance, CCI-200, COAL 2.640". Looking for a good load for the Speer 70gr HP. Looking at Varget and Superformance for that bullet, too. Any load recommendations? Using these for coyotes from kissing distance out to 400 yards. Ed Ed, I buy those in the 1000 bullet box...70 gr TNTs I run 4064, IMR 4895, 3031 and RL 15 for high velocity loads...my source: http://stevespages.com/243_2_70.htmlwith 4064, velocity load is 42.5 grains...I've ran it to 44 grains with NO issues... super accuracy load, is 3031... 41.5 grains... as an alternative, I also use the same data for the Nosler 70 gr Varmaggedon...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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The .243 is my choice for culling Whitetails, over the tears I have tried just about every bullet and powder combo,that I've read about, some are ok, some are good, a very few are great. out of my 3 .243's all are 1x8 twist 21 1/2" barrels, H-4350 and 105 gr. Scenar, KIlls like lighting, from close to far. long range 1000yrds plus the 107 gr.SMK and Retumbo, is very accurate, We kill about 350 Whitetails every year, and a few semi loads of pigs, plus more than a few exotic's, and predator's, the .243 is KING, kills way above it's pay grade. Rio7 I haven't loaded for the 243 for around 20 years and was rummaging around looking for some 243 data and stumbled on this thread. In typical Campfire fashion, the guy with the most experience with the 243 gets ignored while a guy that shoots one deer a year and had a "bullet failure" holds court. Good grief...
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I need to try the 105 Scenar. I've had so many good experiences with the Hornady 105 bthp in a 243 that I don't need any other bullets for hunting, even for elk, but I like to try others.
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After this season anyone blaming bullet performance for lack of killing with a .243 is pretty much commenting on their marksmanship.
My dad who is a fairly poor shot filled both his tags this year with his 243 Marlin XS7 using his varmint grenade loads. One shot kills on both.
I do no recommend using varmint grenades on white tail, and my dad did have 95 gr ballistic tips loaded and ready to go. Why he thought the "hollow point" loads were his ticket is beyond me.....
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I need to try the 105 Scenar. I've had so many good experiences with the Hornady 105 bthp in a 243 that I don't need any other bullets for hunting, even for elk, but I like to try others. I’ve used the Hornady 105’s for the past 4 or 5 years. I really like them and thought I had plenty. Well between ordering one of those howa 6creed barreled actions and reloading components being what they are now I ordered the 105 scenars. I’ve wanted to try them anyway and now that the Hornady 105’s are sold out seems like the perfect time to give them a go.
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I need to try the 105 Scenar. I've had so many good experiences with the Hornady 105 bthp in a 243 that I don't need any other bullets for hunting, even for elk, but I like to try others. I’ve used the Hornady 105’s for the past 4 or 5 years. I really like them and thought I had plenty. Well between ordering one of those howa 6creed barreled actions and reloading components being what they are now I ordered the 105 scenars. I’ve wanted to try them anyway and now that the Hornady 105’s are sold out seems like the perfect time to give them a go. Kaleb, what twist barrel are you using the Hornady 105's? Will a 10 twist stabilize a 105? The Hornady 100BTSP in my 10 twist Model 70 shoots great and have taken deer out to 230 yards but wanted to try a heavier bullet but am concerned that they might not stabilize.
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The 6 creedmoor I’ve been shooting is a 1-8”. The other one is a 1-7” but I haven’t got started with it yet. Some factory Remington barrels shoot 105’s but those are 1-9.25”. I don’t think your 1-10” will spin them because of the length. I use 95gr ballistic tips in our 1-10” 243’s and think very highly of that bullet.
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Decided to play with some 55 gr. Ballistic Tips I got a good deal on. Had IMR 4895 on the bench so just decided to start with 2 grains under the Hodgdon website max. I know my bad but it turns out my luck is holding and 42.0 grains of it under the short BT with it's cutsie soft purple colored tip is an easy 3 shots for 1/2 inch load out of my Savage 110. I have plans to destroy a couple of coons and a coyote or two with it before I go on to something else.
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Hunting load for Howa 1500, 243 Win, shoots consistent 1 MOA out to 300 yd. 100gr Speer BTSP with 35gr IMR4320. To date have taken 5 mule deer with this load.
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Gonna drag this one back up... 75gr Speer HP (the flying tuna can :D), 49.0gr Superformance, CCI-200, COAL 2.640". Looking for a good load for the Speer 70gr HP. Looking at Varget and Superformance for that bullet, too. Any load recommendations? Using these for coyotes from kissing distance out to 400 yards. Ed Update, I found two loads for the Speer 70gr TNT 1. 41.0gr Varget, CCI-200, coal 2.625" = 0.625" 5-shot group with four of those going into 0.257" on my first time out with them. 2. 46.4gr H-414, CCI-200, coal 2.625" = 0.78" 5-shot group, nice round group on the same day. I have also found the 105gr Lapua Scenar-L to be extremely accurate and acts like a premium hunting bullet on game, not a target bullet. 41.5gr IMR-4350, CCI-200, coal 2.775" gets it done in my rifle with 5-shot groups averaging 5/8" @ 100 yards. Ed
"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell
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Decided to play with some 55 gr. Ballistic Tips I got a good deal on. Had IMR 4895 on the bench so just decided to start with 2 grains under the Hodgdon website max. I know my bad but it turns out my luck is holding and 42.0 grains of it under the short BT with it's cutsie soft purple colored tip is an easy 3 shots for 1/2 inch load out of my Savage 110. I have plans to destroy a couple of coons and a coyote or two with it before I go on to something else. Start scooching towards that max and see how good it'll really shoot.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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