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I kind of hate to start on this but here goes...

The #15 was made by/for Savage and requires the third hole on the top rear of the receiver for mounting which I don't think yours has. If your sight is marked Lyman it would not be a #15. Does it mount on top of the receiver?

Rick,

My bad, it is not a #15. Yes, it does mount on the top of the receiver and yes, I will need another hole drilled.

Sorry for the confusion.

What was the s/n range on the 1922's? Also, do you have any closeups of the 44-40 rifle?

Parts mauals show 25,000. This was the switch to the single firing pin and the dovetailed rear sight. Distributors catalog and sales records indicates that the Model 1922 was being closed out in 1923 and that the model 23A didn't ship till 1924. The majority of the 1922's had the larger port and are common. I think the early version with the small ejector port (if made) is the hard one to find.

Just for illustration this is a Lyman 42SS on my 23A. The wood is inletted on the inside of the stock.

Weagle

that does not look like its centerline of the gun? Maybe an optical illusion...

It's just the angle of the pic. It's over the centerline.

Weagle

Rick, what was the lower range of the s/n on the 1922's?

Do you have any pictures (close up) of the savage in 44-40?

Tal, I don't know where they started. My quess would be 1000. WesJ had 17xx. I never found out if it has a large or small port.

So, how many 1922's were made? 20-25k?

1610 of them in 1922 but Rick and I have both proven those numbers wrong a couple times now, ccan't really rely on those sheets, not sure if their factory or not.

MD, that was just the first years sales. The 23A didn't hit the market till 1924 (per sales records and Distributors catalogs). Total sales of the 1922 was close to 16,000 units. This is why most that you see have the larger post.

I would still like to see an early production rifle to verify that there is a "small port" version.

Ya, I just had another look, 12500 in 1923 and didn't start making the 23's till 24. Still don't think those numbers are right though.

The parts catalogs list the early 1919NRA and 1922 Sporter parts for guns under serial 25,000. I would assume the with that number it would not be a total of the two and that they did not combine the 1922 serial number with the 1919 NRA, anyone know for sure? I have two 1922's one is 11,4xx and the other is 18,0xx. I think the 1922's just don't get recognized and are not that uncommon. I mentioned earlier seeing four last year with only one listed as a 1922. Here are three more I found a few days ago, I have been waiting to post them - I think the auctions all should be closed by now. I don't know if any are just a relist of ones I had already seen.
Look at the cocking knob on the bolt and the ejection port, also you can see the trigger adjustment access hole in the bottom of the stock on one; one picture also shows the ejector that has a relief cut in the stock for it. All three still have the original standard rear sights.
1922 -1
1922-2
1922-3

If I count up all the 1919's from 1919-1923 I get almost 25000 without the 1922's but don't take this to definitely, these are sales numbers not production numbers and like I said earlier we have found mistakes in these pages before.

I've seen serials on Model 1922's in the 17xx and 37xx ranges which would be too early to be part of the Model 1919 serial range. I feel pretty sure that they are seperate. Also, just because the serial range changed at 25,000 doesn't mean that all 25,000 were produced. It is common to find voids in the range, also.