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I have some RL-15 and Hornady 250 Interlock SPs to load in a Rem 700 CDL. I purchased the gun and components a few years ago meaning to get after it, but as yet haven't fired it. I seem to recall that there was a "classic" recipe with this bullet weight/powder combination.

Here are some older references I have:

MCR, 3rd Ed.: 250gr w/RL15 min 53.0 max 57.0
Hodgdon, 26 Ed.: 250 gr w/RL15 min 53.0 max 57.0

Here are a couple more recent references:

Nosler, 5th Ed.: 250 NPT w/RL15 min 49.0 max 53.0
Alliant Website (today): 250gr Speer 250 w/RL15 no min or max, just 54.0 grains

Obviously the lawyers have helped cut the recommended load weights.

If you're loading this combo please let me know what weight you're using and how it shoots. Thanks.


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I load 58 gr of Re 15 with 250 gr Hornady RN and SP and 250 gr Woodleigh. The RN is the tightest group, steadily running under an inch at 200 yards. The Woodleigh is under 2" at 200 yards, and the SP is very close -- certainly all good enough to kill out to 400 yards. Velocity runs just over 2500 fps.

Manuals nowadays try to stop loading at around 54-55 gr of Re 15, but I have yet to have an issue with 58 gr in mine. Anyone must make their own rational discussion, of course.

Oh...it kills game in Africa and the USA really nicely... laugh.

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I load 58.5 gr of Re 15 with 250 gr Hornady SP. No pressure signs.
I've been getting M.O.A. results @ 100 yards. Although I never harvested an animal with the Whelen, I believe this combo would stop anything in its tracks.

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I will go out of the way for a fellow .35 cal shooter. I shoot this bullet out of my 350 rem mag Ruger; I have killed nothing with it yet though.

Hornady 7th edition (Newest, I believe?)

Barrel: 22" 1-16" twist
Case: Remington
Primer: Federal 210
Max case trim length: 2.494"
RL-15 /250 gr Sp #3520
Start: 49.4gr / 2100fps
Max: 55.1gr / 2400 fps
C.O.L.: 3.290"

Check out the balistics of the Remington factory 250gr load. They list it a 2400fps and the down range energy is impressive IMO. I wish they a load for this 250gr in the 350 remmag.

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My buddy worked me up to 58.7 grains of RL-15 behind a 250 Hornady SP. That load turned my Whelen into the most accurate rifle in my safe.

I haven't chrony'ed it, but yesterday I was 1 3/4" high at 100 yards, and about 1" low at 200: < MOA at each distance.

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Float your barrel...

Even if you just shim the action at the lug...allow that barrel to be free from contact...

I have loaded RL-15 under some 250's...the 250 Hornady RN, and 250 Nosler Partition.
(I know, Dennis... I know..,Lol..!)

Although not on your list, the Barnes 225 TSX can also perform quite well. (It opens well even at low velocities on small thin skinned animals)


Charge weights with RL-15 in the mid-upper 50's does well...

...and, if your rifle gets a little finiky with that powder,
another "Classic" is IMR 4320 (mid 50's)

Finally, because I happen to have several pounds on hand, I also have done well with H-4895

I don't know if you have a chronograph or not...

That would be a good thing to leave at home until you find your load...

The temptation is to see velocities print big numbers on the screen...and anybody that has harvested with a 225-280 grain bullet out of the 35's will tell you that they kill beyond expectation.


Enjoy..!



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I don't use 250s in my Whelen (I save that weight for my 358 NM), but max load in my old Whelen with 225s (Sierra & Nosler PTs) was 60.5g RL-15. MV was ~2715 in a 22" bbl, so it was definitely max for that rifle. So FWIW suspect the loads with 57+/58g RL-15 with the 250s is very near max, if not actually there IMO.

BTW, don't know others's experience, but RL-15 in that rifle was always the fastest MV I could get with 225s.


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I use 56grs. with 250 Partys.

I'd be more apt to note the speeds. Going over 2,550 fps just ain't worth it, so long as pressure signs aren't glaring at you.

Not seeing any pressure signs wouldn't make me seek more either.

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My accuracy results, however in a Norma, echo those which Dennis has gotten with Hornady 250s. They are fine-shooting bullets in the 35s.


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Listen to Dennis he seems to know the Whelen.
FWIW I am running a Whelen in an FN commercial action with a 1 in 14 twist 20-inch barrel. I have run up to the old published max load from Alliant of 59.5 Gr Rl15 and a 250 Gr Hornady Rn with a col 3.290 and was getting 2495 fps ten feet from the muzzle. As I do not like to push things at full throttle all the time I too settled in at 58 Grains with absolutely NO pressure signs. Bear


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Thanks, but probably no more than several of you. I've been shooting stuff with it since about 1993, so I do know some things, but it sounds like some of you all have as well. Oddly enough -- we seem to be coming up with about the same results... smile.

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Unexpectedly, but much appreciated, I have a hunt upcoming this weekend. I don't have time to do any load development. Based upon the advice, I think I will just load 20 cartridges with 55 gr, sight in, and go hunting.

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Ahem. We are waiting for hunt results. smile Bear


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Yeah...me too... grin.

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You might want to check out TAC powder by Ramshot.

I get high 2700's fps w/ TAC and 250 Gr Hornady softpoints. THis is in a Mauser 98 w/ 24" A&B barrel.

Get over 2800 fps w/ 220 grainers.

This powder is "PFM" in the WHelen and 350 RM.


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I use 58 gr of RL15 under Speer 250 for bone smashing power and tight groups. this load is 2500 fps or a little better and has never shown any problems with pressure, cases last forever. I have been useing this load for nearly 20 years.


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Dennis it seems that you might be the guru to go to about this. I have ended up with a 35Whelen and 500 (250gr.) Win.{Power points),
would they tend to respond much like the other 250 grs. or is
there something I should know or watch for when stating in on load development. Your time and any one else's comments appreciated. Thank you. Cheers NC


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I run 250gr Partitions in front of IMR4064 though I'm sure RL 15 would work fine.

The Whelen is an easy to feed cartridge, I've been running one since the late 80's.


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The Winchester 250-gr bullets shoot very well in my Whelen, though I've never tried to kill game with them. The hunting partner who let me shoot his Whelen in the early 1990's, which led me to buy mine in 1993, uses the 250 gr Win bullets a lot, and has shot deer and elk with them with no issues and great success.

Buy a couple pounds of Reloder 15 and enjoy yourself with them smile.

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