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The 20 is just as effective as the 12 now days. Most of the 20ga sabots are pushing the same velocities as the 12, just with a lighter slug. A 260grn slug in the 1900-2000fps area will be devastating on game. It will be just as effective as using a modern inline MLer with sabots.

Big advantage to the 20 is less recoil. A 12ga is tolerable, but HV slugs recoil much more than a magnum rifle.

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Excellent, Thanks Ruger..............547.

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I played with a few different shotguns that friends had and went for the 20 gauge. After doing some reading here I settled on a Remington 11-87 with the cantilever slug barrel. That gun will cloverleaf the 250 gr. SSTs that it likes all day long. The recoil is light enough that my wife actualy enjoyed shooting it.

None of the three deer I tagged in Ohio needed more than one shot and the internal damage was....impressive. Only one went anywhere and that was a 40 yard track at most.

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I would also vote for the 20. The new sabot loads are plenty even for big bucks, and some of the 12-gauge loads are so much that the recoil is REALLY nasty.


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The savage 20 gauge scores again. Shot a nice doe @ 40 yards ... DRT full entrance & exit holes through both shoulders. I'll try to post the video. The accutips really dump a lot of energy in the body cavity (kinda like the barnes). Mostly jelly.

BTW I looked at the sticker price for the Remington Accutips and it was priced at $16.00/box. Thankfully I get a discount at the little Ma & Pa store.


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CLB and Ruger - what is the reasoning for making rifles illegal for deer in your respective states?


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Population of people & lots of suburb hunting. Some areas of NJ are well suited for rifles while other are not.

Kinda funny b/c you can use a inline muzzleloader that can shoot a 250gr piece of metal travelling fast as hell out to 250 yards accurately. Most shots in NJ are 50 yards or less. Now I do have property where you can shoot over 500 yards. A person who is wreckless w/ a rifle is usually wreckless with a shotgun & muzzleloader. I would love to have a rifle season b/c I have the property to use it & w/ some of my stands.
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With most quality 20 gauge slug ammo sporting ML bullets they are as effective as any ML rifle.

The only negative is the price of ammo.

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Didnt take the 20 gauge but used the muzzleloader , got a nice doe , field dressed 90-100 pounds. Woo-Hoo!


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That's a good size doe man!... Enjoy...........547.

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My Doctor has one of the coolest I've ever seen. I was showing him my Ruger 44 carbine with an EO Tech. Halo site. He does a bear hunt in Canada a few times a year. Did I mention he's a Doctor? Anyhoot. He mounted a Halo site on a Benelli semi auto.

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After at least 4 failures with a Rem 1187 over the years, a borrowed 870, muzzleloaders and handguns, I settled on a Benelli Super Nova and put a Badger Barrel slug barrel on it. Longest kill was last week at 147 yards. It shoots Hornaday SST and Winchester Partition Gold equally well to about 1.5" at 100. I prefer the PArtition Gold as they definately hit harder. I looked at the savage and liked it, but my local dealer steered my away from it. If I had the coin, I would have a Tar Hunt.


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Tar-Hunt = WAY TO MUCH MONEY! The Savage shoots just as good as a Tar Hunt for a fraction of the price.


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I'm thinking that exact same thing!!

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Fit and finish is better on the Tar Hunt but not worth $1000 or more....Glad I got my Browning A-bolt when I did


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Salmomhead, did your dealer give you a reason for not going with the Savage? I wonder if he is thinking about the new 220-F models? I have one, having just sold a Browning A-Bolt for twice as much. This is as good a gun as the Browning and will probably outshoot it easily. Just curious about his bias.


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The Savage strikes Again!!! Double header !!!! Will post pics soon of deer and the Remington Accutip performance.


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Here are the pics of deer and bullet performance.

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entrance on spike 100 yards shoulder
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entrance on doe (neck shot 150 yards)
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Entrance on spike
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Exit on spike
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Rib cage entrance spike (not best photo)
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Excellent pics Ruger! You nailed that spike perfect and a very impressive exit wound, looks like that 20ga maybe the way to go.................547.

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davidlea,
He simply said that the savage wasnt of good enough quality. This was 4-6 years ago. Not sure what he based that on, since there seems to be plenty of guys on here that like them. They seem to be priced right thats for sure. I like the looks of them also. maybe I will pick one up and test it. At the time, he said "they are junk" and that was of the 12 gauge model 210 I believe. I had also inquired about the Browning A bolt since they had been discontinued and the used price had gone up 3-5x over what they sold for new back in the 90's. he also said they were nothing special, but decent. I don't know a whole lot about the inner workings of guns personally, so kind of have to rely on others. What I have now certainly gets the job done.


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