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Hey , that's not to shabby,

Lee would better it, but you already knew that.

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Originally Posted by Lee24
BrentD, if you think hitting a 6-inch spot at 150 yards or 100 yards is too difficult a standard, what is you standard for iron sights on game, and dangerous game with you on the ground?

What range and target size do you think is reasonable for a 99% reliable shot placement?

If someone can't meet your standard, should they put themselves in a hunting situation where they may HAVE to take a shot that they are unlikely to successfully make?



This is great,....first Barsness,.....

Now you're going to take on Danielson about shooting game with open sights.

You're REALLY special, aren't you ?

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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Hey , that's not to shabby,

Lee would better it, but you already knew that.

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H-HAC might have done that for me @ 150 yards. Offhand. Using a mirror. In a 15 mph crosswind.

Question: If you use a mirror to sight while being charged by a rhino, are you facing the charge? Or what? Give me a hand here...


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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by Lee24
BrentD, if you think hitting a 6-inch spot at 150 yards or 100 yards is too difficult a standard, what is you standard for iron sights on game, and dangerous game with you on the ground?

What range and target size do you think is reasonable for a 99% reliable shot placement?

If someone can't meet your standard, should they put themselves in a hunting situation where they may HAVE to take a shot that they are unlikely to successfully make?



This is great,....first Barsness,.....

Now you're going to take on Danielson about shooting game with open sights.

You're REALLY special, aren't you ?

GTC


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Originally Posted by rost495

As to correct placement of a post front sight, there is none. You use what works for you. 6, line of white, flat tire, sub six, frame, center, navy etc.... I have zeros for all of those and use different ones at times... I often hold center, but in 2 positions only, and for prone I use only 6 or frame hold depending on distances and lighting conditions. Much like I change rear aperture size and my lense colors as the light dictates.


Sir,

It is my understanding that you are one of the top match shooters in the country. You mention several terms that I am not familiar with and I would like clarification. If you have time, please explain what a few of those terms mean like 6, line of white, etc.... Thank you in advance!

I haven't hunted much with open sights and I am really wanting to improve my shooting abilities. I am in the market for a nice .22 that is similar to my hunting rifles like a CZ or something. I feel that shoot a .22 will help plus it is a heck of a lot of fun.

I also intend on practicing with my regular rifles that have open sights along with a close buddy so that we can practice the "flinch drill." That is always an eye opener.

As an aside, I prefer open sights on all of my rifles. Not only for function, but also for the aesthetics. It makes them look more like the "rifleman's rifle" to me.

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Crossfire, if you or BrentD, or whomever doesn't like my standards for hunting or my use of sights, please state yours.

How about I quit posting facts, experience, advice and opinions, and just ask simple questions? Simple questions seem to give the some of the "experts" here a lot of trouble.

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Originally Posted by Lee24
Crossfire, if you or BrentD, or whomever doesn't like my standards for hunting or my use of sights, please state yours.

How about I quit posting facts, experience, advice and opinions, and just ask simple questions? Simple questions seem to give the some of the "experts" here a lot of trouble.


How about starting to post proof of any claims made?


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I am only ASKING questions about the topics from now on.

If the question was not addressed to you, or you can't answer the question like an adult, don't post a childish retort, because I will add you to my Ignore List. That works so well. The threads are much shorter without the adolescent chatter and soft-core porn.

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So... ask.


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cmg's dumb remark just put him on the Ignore List.

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Originally Posted by Lee24
cmg's dumb remark just put him on the Ignore List.


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cmg,

now you went and did it! he may take all his expertise & authority and with him and not want to play anymore. heaven forbid he be expected to answer a direct question.......

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Originally Posted by Longbob
Originally Posted by rost495

As to correct placement of a post front sight, there is none. You use what works for you. 6, line of white, flat tire, sub six, frame, center, navy etc.... I have zeros for all of those and use different ones at times... I often hold center, but in 2 positions only, and for prone I use only 6 or frame hold depending on distances and lighting conditions. Much like I change rear aperture size and my lense colors as the light dictates.


Sir,

It is my understanding that you are one of the top match shooters in the country. You mention several terms that I am not familiar with and I would like clarification. If you have time, please explain what a few of those terms mean like 6, line of white, etc.... Thank you in advance!

I haven't hunted much with open sights and I am really wanting to improve my shooting abilities. I am in the market for a nice .22 that is similar to my hunting rifles like a CZ or something. I feel that shoot a .22 will help plus it is a heck of a lot of fun.

I also intend on practicing with my regular rifles that have open sights along with a close buddy so that we can practice the "flinch drill." That is always an eye opener.

As an aside, I prefer open sights on all of my rifles. Not only for function, but also for the aesthetics. It makes them look more like the "rifleman's rifle" to me.


I"m far from a top shooter, but lets just say when I was still really active around the early 2000 era, I could hold my own with an AR15 service rifle....

Sight pictures... I only use a flat top sight, I don't like round or bead fronts... just how I am. And its been fairly well proven that flat top and sides net better shot calls and placement.

That being said sub six is holding the post top under the white a fair amount. As much as a few scoring rings up to even half the buff under the bull. MOving up line of white is a thin sliver of buff showing under the bull, I almost shoot that.. I shoot what I call true 6, barely touching the black but since the bull is round a sliver of buff left and right of center under the bull. Then flat tire, push the sight up just barely into the black. Center hold is just that. Navy hold is covering up all or almost all of the black with the sight. Frame hold is holding same amount of buff left,right and above the blade... essentially covering up the complete aiming black. Thats how the terms have been described to me and I've used almost all of them at one time or another depending on sighting conditions and distances between 200 and 1000 yards.

The flinch drill is a really great drill, its called more correctly ball and dummy... dump 10 or 20 rounds in your pocket, half dummies, half live.... WOW is all you can say and its a drill I tried to shoot at least once a month to see if I'd developed a flinch or bad muscle tension.


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Originally Posted by Lee24
cmg's dumb remark just put him on the Ignore List.


And so we go, you've left, no contact info so I could shoot with/against you at Benning AMU in the spring or summer....typical if you ask me. Toss it out and then run... To be honest the way you shoot, I"m no threat to beating you but I'd love to shoot a match down that way and we could have had a burger and beer.....


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Does anyone have any soft-core porn to complete this thread . . . . . grin

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Originally Posted by cmg
Originally Posted by Lee24
cmg's dumb remark just put him on the Ignore List.


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cmg; That rat bastid is still on line..watching...better tell me now how to get on his ignore list.... grin

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Originally Posted by ingwe
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Originally Posted by Lee24
cmg's dumb remark just put him on the Ignore List.


cry


cmg; That rat bastid is still on line..watching...better tell me now how to get on his ignore list.... grin

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Post some degrading soft-core porn . . . . . .


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"degrading" is a relative term..... grin

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You relatives maybe, not mine . . . . . wink


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Originally Posted by BMT
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Originally Posted by cmg
Originally Posted by Lee24
cmg's dumb remark just put him on the Ignore List.


cry


cmg; That rat bastid is still on line..watching...better tell me now how to get on his ignore list.... grin

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Post some degrading soft-core porn . . . . . .


I beg to differ. Words, mere words.

A counter to get him of balance and then a quick jab.

Knock out. Minutes later he posts his open letter.

I, meanwhile, are in counciling. Check the sniper thread for details.


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