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Beretzs for under 3k try the 90 gr Sierra HPBT. Have been using it in a 25 wildcat last couple of years. Very impressive record.
GreggH I might give those a shot in my 250 Savage Greg. I have been fighting that one a little. Heard that 90 Sierra is pretty good for the Savage case.
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Have seen it break both shoulders of a decent 8 point shot by my 11 year son. Muzzle velocity was around 2800. Got to where the deer was standing and lung tissue was hanging on kudzu. Most is the others dropped in their tracks. Not one of those bullets has been recovered.
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I had a beautiful Remmy 700 Classic 25-06 I purchased new in 1990. Like a dummy, I cannibalized it and turned it into a 6-06, which I later sold. Don't get me wrong, the 6-06 was a wonderful rifle and cartridge, but I miss the 25-06. Shot 100 gr Sierra Pro-Hunters(#1620) into tiny 5 shot groups. Killed my biggest deer with this rifle/bullet.
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I took out a hog recently with my 60 year old 25/06 built on a 03A3 action. Guess the old hog thought he was safe from a 25/06 cause he was 150 yards away. The 120 gr Hornady HP dropped him in in his tracks despite it’s pitiful BC.
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Have seen it break both shoulders of a decent 8 point shot by my 11 year son. Muzzle velocity was around 2800. Got to where the deer was standing and lung tissue was hanging on kudzu. Most is the others dropped in their tracks. Not one of those bullets has been recovered.
GreggH I’m down to try it out. Thanks Gregg. I took out a hog recently with my 60 year old 25/06 built on a 03A3 action. Guess the old hog thought he was safe from a 25/06 cause he was 150 yards away. The 120 gr Hornady HP dropped him in in his tracks despite it’s pitiful BC. ST, that was funny…. Stunt shooter….
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I took out a hog recently with my 60 year old 25/06 built on a 03A3 action. Guess the old hog thought he was safe from a 25/06 cause he was 150 yards away. The 120 gr Hornady HP dropped him in in his tracks despite it’s pitiful BC. Don’t believe you! 😁 GreggH
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I took out a hog recently with my 60 year old 25/06 built on a 03A3 action. Guess the old hog thought he was safe from a 25/06 cause he was 150 yards away. The 120 gr Hornady HP dropped him in in his tracks despite it’s pitiful BC. Don’t believe you! 😁 GreggH I believe him. Instead of taking out a woman, he takes out a hog. Except that last bit, the usual exaggeration of distance. Divide by 2 and get the real distance which is...less than a 100 yards.
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Have seen it break both shoulders of a decent 8 point shot by my 11 year son. Muzzle velocity was around 2800. Got to where the deer was standing and lung tissue was hanging on kudzu. Most is the others dropped in their tracks. Not one of those bullets has been recovered.
GreggH Now this demonstrably false. Someone as "limp" as GreggH would be incapable of producing a son. It must be someone else's.
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Or perhaps it could indicate that I earn and Unreasonable wage. Or perhaps I could get a wage but don't earn it.
Now, for OBG and others, perhaps we can drop the personal insults and return to a worthwhile thread Thanks, this is the inter-webs and people are free to say what they want to but could we maybe confine the personal attacks to the looney bin that is the "hunter's campfire"?
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Have seen it break both shoulders of a decent 8 point shot by my 11 year son. Muzzle velocity was around 2800. Got to where the deer was standing and lung tissue was hanging on kudzu. Most is the others dropped in their tracks. Not one of those bullets has been recovered.
GreggH Now this demonstrably false. Someone as "limp" as GreggH would be incapable of producing a son. It must be someone else's. Little feller I am flattered you are following me around but I really don’t have time for ankle biters. You may go now. GreggH
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a wealth of information from 2004 to a chit show in 2023....WOW
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The thread was good in 2004 but it turned into crap in 2023 due to the lack of objectivity and the failure of many of the contributors to accept an alternative viewpoint. The truth of the matter is that most of the .257 projectiles have poor ballistic co-efficients, and instead of this being honestly accepted and acknowledged, instead, it's made out to be irrelevant. And there are those who know that what I am saying is correct, but they don't want to "rock the boat", so they just go along with what is being said.
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Everyone agrees that high BCs provide an advantage at long range. Your insistence that they are necessary at what most consider normal hunting ranges is contrary to the facts and contrary to the experience of seasoned hunters.
If you prefer to use high BC bullets, more power to you... go for it. But you’re not going to convince anyone that, for example, a 25/06 is only effective out to 100 yards
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The thread was good in 2004 but it turned into crap in 2023 due to the lack of objectivity and the failure of many of the contributors to accept an alternative viewpoint. The truth of the matter is that most of the .257 projectiles have poor ballistic co-efficients, and instead of this being honestly accepted and acknowledged, instead, it's made out to be irrelevant. And there are those who know that what I am saying is correct, but they don't want to "rock the boat", so they just go along with what is being said.
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I still have my 25-06 I had built in 1976, by a friend at the Colo School of Trades. He was broke, and needed someone to finance a project for school credit, so me being the Big Spender bought the parts and he whittled it together. She started as a Santa Barbara action in the white, to which he fitted a Shilen barrel and carved out a Quilted Maple stock from a blank. As I recall, there was a lot of metal work and treating before the blueing process. I had to finish the stock myself, as he ran out of time. I started loading using a Lee Loader, and settled on 48 gr IMR 4831 behind a Sierra 117 gr boattail spirepoint. For 45 years she had a Leupold M8 6x mounted, and after I learned how, I could reliably shoot groups with all holes touching. She accounted for 3 Elk, and a couple dozen Antelope and Mule Deer, with only two performance issues I can recall. One was a spike Elk that took three rounds to go down (all sub-optimal hits) and an antelope that took awhile to tip over after the bullet grenaded on the near side right inside the skin. Couple years back I fitted a Ziess Terra with the ballistic reticle and the groups opened up to 3/4 inch. I may put the old purple Leupold back and leave it be.
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My favorite 25-06, a '78 vintage Savage 112'J' series single shot. These 'J' actions are fairly unique not only in screw spacing but also the bolt plug, firing pin assy.,overall fit and finish, trigger adjustability and barrel quality. They were meant as a blue collar alternative to the 40X's of the era. Every one I've owned were wonderfully accurate factory guns, once the bedding was squared away. This one likes a big dose of N140 and the Sierra 75 @3,650 for solid 1/2" 5 shot performance. It's got a Sightron S-Tac 4-20 with the MOA reticle on it now...that makes it almost too easy in a 'dog town. The case volume is better balanced with the 85-100's and the accuracy comes around a bit with these bullet weights. The BIB 88 is especially impressive at 3,450-3,500. Good shootin' -Al
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I bought one of those in 222 Rem. at that time. Put a 20x Lyman LWBR scope on it. 53 Sierra with IMR 4895, it would shoot. The best $245 rifle I ever owned. Of course I traded it away.
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