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Exactly. This is an economic, environmental and cultural disaster!!
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Campfire Kahuna
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I ain't ever seen oil hurt us that wasn't refined.
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So you prefer China, Cuba, Russia to drill in the Gulf than Americans or British?
Somebody is going to drill in the Gulf and off shore it might as well be us. Oh it can be done DD, it just needs to be done....better. And with more preparedness for the inevitable. Until some of those at the top face the possiblity of criminal misconduct, the culture won't change. Man, as this disaster has unfolded, the attitude has changed around here, hasn't it?....  Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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during cementing operations, they had a pressure surge, the mud column didn't hold, the BOP failed, oil and gas hit the rig floor and was ignited. rig eventually burned up and sank, pipe string is twisted up on the botton. ROVs have been trying and failing to activate the BOP on the sea floor through a tangle of rig debris and pipe.
anybody who thinks BP isn't doing everything money can buy to get this shut in is smoking dope. The money should have been spent in being better prepared. Shutting the barn door after the cows are gone isn't going to save BP now. Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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Campfire Kahuna
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No this wreck is not one of those conspiracy things.
By the way we were speaking about the Valdez the other day. 21 years later they are still finding ducks with oil on their feathers.
There are still exists pools of oil missed by the workers or that have surfaced later. Didn't know a duck lived 21 years... [bleep] that its all damn propaganda on the old spills... I've been there a number of times since, and life is normal. Geez. Of course thats NOT what we expected to find when there. We were on the beaches fishing and wondering around, watching the wildlife, catching fish, flipping rocks over looking for evidence, there ain't much.... Pools of oil 21 years old....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I ain't ever seen oil hurt us that wasn't refined. ?....... Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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it is now reported that the decision was made not to install a half million dollar electronic remote control BOP, on the basis that it was unnecessary. while that might have failed too, this is going to drive the lawyers nuts....I'm sure Transocean and BP are going back over that little email chain right now [bleep] bullets over who made the final call.
Proudly representing oil companies, defense contractors, and firearms manufacturers since 1980. Because merchants of death need lawyers, too.
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Campfire Kahuna
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It'll be okay. We'll get past it. If it weren't for politics this would barely be news. Not a lot different from the Mexican border thing. Since when has the rest of the country given a [bleep] about the Gulf Coast? Other than Katrina, of course. The MSM says it's news, so it's news.
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So you prefer China, Cuba, Russia to drill in the Gulf than Americans or British?
Somebody is going to drill in the Gulf and off shore it might as well be us. Oh it can be done DD, it just needs to be done....better. And with more preparedness for the inevitable. Until some of those at the top face the possiblity of criminal misconduct, the culture won't change. Man, as this disaster has unfolded, the attitude has changed around here, hasn't it?.... Casey Yup. I'm sure this disaster will change things and make drilling in the ocean safer. If it was an accident things will be learned for the next time. If it was sabotage security will be changed and done better. If it was an attack by a sub or some such, we will learn we need to protect the rigs better either by the Coast Guard or the Navy. Out of every disaster we always learn to do things better.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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Exactly. This is an economic, environmental and cultural disaster!! And lie-berals like you are trying damned hard, damned fast, to cash in. Typical.
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Exactly. This is an economic, environmental and cultural disaster!! It's not good, but I think you have your panties too much in a wad. I'm hearing stupid stuff like it will never recover. The gulf is dead. It's the worst disaster ever. The current spill would have to leak at it's current rate for another full two years before it even reached the 1979 gulf spill......you don't hear that a lot on the news do you? Did the gulf die? Did it never recover?
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Campfire Greenhorn
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Exactly. This is an economic, environmental and cultural disaster!! ...The current spill would have to leak at it's current rate for another full two years before it even reached the 1979 gulf spill......you don't hear that a lot on the news do you? Did the gulf die? Did it never recover? Here are the facts NathanL: The spill is the worst oil disaster in the gulf since the blowout and oil spill of the Ixtoc I in 1979. It is estimated that within 50 days it will pass the worst oil spill in U.S. history � the 11 million gallons that leaked from the grounded tanker Exxon Valdez in Alaska's Prince William Sound in 1989. And the relief valve may not be finished for as long 90 days -- roughly three months.
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Campfire Oracle
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Campfire Oracle
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The 1979 spill dropped 3 million barrels into the Gulf, divide 5000 in 3 million, that's 600 days.
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And this: Over 21 Years later, researchers continue to find hidden, toxic pools of oil left over from the 1989 Exxon Valdez tanker spill off Alaska�s coastline, killing pink salmon eggs and retarding the population growth of sea otters, harlequin ducks and other wildlife. Although oil does decompose, studies show that oily pockets tucked beneath boulders or buried below gravel and mussel beds in Prince William Sound escape sunlight, oxygen and waves that would break them down.
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hussein might want to shut down the Gulf, but China, Russia, Mexico, Venezuela, Iran and a host of others are drilling night and day for the oil.
Losers of course.................. America So I guess we stay the course and try and keep up with those bench mark countries?
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Well since PH seems to live in fantasy land I guess we could always use this to dril under the gulf. I'd love to live in a world where mistakes, accidents, disasters didn't happen but they do. You man up and take care of the problem, learn from it and try not to repeat it in the future. ![[Linked Image]](http://springfieldfiles.com/albums/signs/0906.JPG)
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I've had better and not enough blonds
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I've had better and not enough blonds Yeah but I don't have standards.
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