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Well, I have way exceeded my original budget for making improvements to my 1000 yd equipment!

I just ordered a almost new Nightforce 8-32x56 BR scope, a set of rings, from Bill Shehane. Bill gave me a couple tips that I will follow without question. I also found a used McMillan HV Stock, for a 700 long action, that was set up for 1000 yd shooting. It isn't perfect, but I bet it will allow me to reach the full potnetial of my present action and barrel. The stock includes a Davidson loading ramp and a Williams trigger guard, and only cost me $190 shipped.

The Tubb Speedlock kit arived today and I installed it without a main spring compression tool. (This is doable but I don't recommend it.) I recevied 500 special 115 grain Matchkings Sierra makes for David Tubb, and a metplate uniformer. I'm also going to try Tubb's throat MX kit.

On Friday I'm going to drive up to Bruno's and get the rest of the stuff I need.

Finally, a type of shooting that REQUIRES every bit of anality I have........ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Your post made me chuckle but what are hobbies for if not a place to spend money. Just try to budget a little, not a lot.


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I am in the same boat. Didn't have but about 200 bucks in the gun fund. Shot to heck.....over 3 bills to Krieger, almost that to the smith again, and almost that to Mr Bin.

And still no freakin' GLASS. Btw probably have to shoot off my old pants wadded up. Won't fit cause wife gnawed a$$ off. (grin)


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Blaine What is a metplate uniformer? Thank you in advance


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I'd bet he meant a meplat uniformer....

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anality?
hee hee, a polite euphemism for anal retentiveness.
i like it, and will use it.
oh yeah, blaine, as dirty harry said: "a man's gotta know his limitations." you know yours, and that's a good thing.
good shooting.


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Blaine, when you go to Brono's leave your credit cards/checkbook at home, take ONLY enough cash for what you NEED! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

After 20 years of coaxing I finally took an old friends advise and shot some 100 yard benchrest this past summer. I finished building my rifle a few weeks ago, and I'm on first name basis with Sinclair International.

Nice scope!

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"meplat uniformer?"
See: Tubbs

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Blaine,
Good for you. I want to try that out sometime. There is a 1000 yard range that hosts some shoots not too far from where I live, and I am going to go give it a whirl one of these days.

Hold on tight to your checkbook when you go to Bruno's. I stop by there every time I'm in Scottsdale, and without fail I drop a lot mroe than I had planned.

If you happened to notice, what chambering were most of the guys in your area shooting?

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Blaine,

What caliber is this new toy of yours?

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I think I made good choices, though I pushed my limits a bit........ I could have bought a 24X Weaver for under $400, but the mirage can be a real problem here in the desert in the summer. The Leupold 8.5-25X50 would have been an improvement over what I had, but when conditions are good, guys like more power. Another choice would have been a 6.5-20x50 sent top premier and doubled, but both Leupold options would been almost as much as the Nightforce.

"Metplate" is what comes out when you don't QC your typing well enough. A metplat uniformer is supposed to greatly help the consistency of the bullets--we'll see.

Suicycle,

Glass is a hard choice. The variable to 32X is about ideal, but it is spendy, whether you go Nightforce or a doubled Leupold. I suppose a Sightron 6-24 might work as a more economical choice, but what stopped me was I didn't know what I would do with it after I built a real 1000 yd rifle, so it would be a money loser in the long term. BTW, Bruno's seems to have substantially better scope prices than anyone else.

http://www.brunoshooters.com

The caliber is 6mm Rem. The rifle was built as a long range varminter, and has a 27" Pac-Nor #5 with a 1x8 twist, and is on a trued up 700 action. A "real" 1000 yd BR rifle would have a straight taper, and would use a custom action, though the 700 short action can work well. Having said all that, this barreled action appears to be acurate and it will certainly be a while before I am outshooting it.

As to chamberings at this last match here. Most guys seem to shoot their Light Gun rifle in both Light and Heavy classes. A Light Gun has to weigh under 17 lbs. Here were some of the Light Gun chamberings:

300 WSM
308 Patriot
6.5 WSSM X2 (I think that should actually be "WSM", but it shows "WSSM" on the match report)
6.5x284
33 Awakina (I have no idea what that is)

Guys seem to be going away from the 308 Patriot because of the cost of brass - $2 a piece, and it doesn't seem to be any better than any other brass.
The seem to like Nesika actions around here as well.

I had to decide between using "anality" or "analness", and anality just seem better..........................

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Blaine, it could very well have been "WSSM"! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
It is gaining ground as a 1,000 yard target round and doing very well.
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Well I have heard some shooters are winning matches with Sightron fixed 36X. So thedy might not be that much of a compromise. I don't know. I want to go fixed 36, but the thought of mirage kind of scares me. The fixed 16 I shot was an old weaver and it wasn't the clearest, I blame that on age. If they made fixed 16 with fine cross that would be a no brainer for me. F class targets are a little more forgiving on dimensions, but we cannot sling em' quick. Gotta pull and score after each shot. Probably go fixed 24, but then again. To much to daydream about for now. Keep us posted on your progress.


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Dont want to burst your bubble but if your rifle is a stock 6MM Rem. it probably wont stabilize those long 115 gr bullets. With the 1X10 twist in your barrel it is probably marginal with the 107s'. most of the guys shooting 107s' use a 1X8 twist. Unless your rifle is throated you are also going to have to seat them very deep.
Might want to get on benchrest.com and go to the 1000yd forum the guys there will get you pointed in the right direction.

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You might wanna read a Thread,before you hit "reply".

Food for thought....................


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Blaine&Bend thanx for the reply on the meplat uniformer.Now I understand.

Blaine Give Clarence Hammond/Hammond's Rifles a call.
717 244 7879 You can also find him in benchrest.com
His guns currently hold over 30 world records.


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Clarence Hammond is very good. I work with Sid Goodling in seven springs, Pa. 717-225-3350 Very easy to work with lots of experience in 1000yds and all of his rifles are the same....perfect! Look in match results P.S. or Williamsport Original 1000 yd Br. club.

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Ah ha....1X8 thing...thats what happens late at night.

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Blaine, it could very well have been "WSSM"!
It is gaining ground as a 1,000 yard target round and doing very well.
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Mine does pretty well <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Well, I gotta see if it is a REAL 1x8. It handled the 107 MKs fine, and if I have to I'll go back to those.

The scope came today--what a monster! It weighs 36 oz. The rings are very heavy as well.

An interesting thing about this game is the relatively small size of the community, and the subsequent ease of getting to talk to "names" in the sport, who willingly give out info. However, I'm sure they still keep their special secrets close hold................

For my loading, I bought a Dillon electronic scale and an Redding trickler. I didn't have an electronic scale, and the Redding trickler weighs a full pound, which is much heavier than the other trickler I have. I plan to throw a little light with my Harrel and then bring it up with the trickler. If the electronic scale is accurate enough, I'll use that. If not, I'll use my old RCBS 10-10 and use the Dillon to weigh all the other stuff I need to be weighing.

Man, am I glad I have a 3-day weekend. I have a lot to do, all very fun!!

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