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I'm another fan of the 7x64.

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Although, the 7.62x63 is pretty good, too.

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My 1979 Remington Model 700 BDL is chambered for the 7mm Express cartridge by the barrel marking. It is a fine 280, so I'm torn...


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This is a no-brainer...the one with the synthetic stock is way better.


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JM......is that avitar out of your baby book???? laugh


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I don't trust John Moses. He asks trick questions. The only true answer is a .284 x 63mm. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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I'm bettin he takes after his Pa!


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Generally, there ain't a lot that separates the two however,
Barely making it is a whole lot more satisfying than barely not making it.
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In my experience the .280 is far superior, since every animal I've shot at with the .280 died, and none of them I shot at with the 7mm Express died.

Of course, I have never shot at any animals with the 7mm Express, but relatively little experience doesn't seem to matter much on the Internet.


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Experience can be so hard to come by, what with leaving the house and all.


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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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I've never owned either rifle, but I stayed in Holiday Inn Express last night.

AJD, he got his mommas ears and hair...

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I'm going with the 270 necked up to 284. I think that'll work mo' betterer wink


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Look out now!


There is no accounting for taste.

Experience is a great thing as long as one survives it.

Generally, there ain't a lot that separates the two however,
Barely making it is a whole lot more satisfying than barely not making it.
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I prefer the 275 Rigby

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There is a difference, but ya'll ain't even close.

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob, I expected you to know.

I will sweeten the deal. Whomever comes up with the correct answer will win an African Safari with JB as your guide.

Ingwe will handle all gunbearer duties while sporting his african bush thong.

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I feel sorry for Ken Waters (of "Pet Loads" fame). He had two serious separate reviews of both the 280 Rem and 7mm Express the the same volume of "Pet Loads." Ultimately, they were very truthful. The two separate reviews/evals were well done. They didn't compare one to the other. The results indicated they were both capable and useful cartridges.

I guess he didn't see the forest because of the trees. Memo to Ken Waters: "They are both the same." The marketing guys just tryied to hype and hump a new round-and you didn't catch it. To his credit, he work indicated one was not better than the other-but he never reported they were the same-except for the headstamp. I always wondered how Waters felt before, during and after he wrote those two reports. Did he ever feel like a stooge? Maybe we'll never know.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
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It's really odd...because I have a .280; have had a couple others. And I have two sets of 7mm Express dies -- and they both work just fine reloading for all the .280's I've had... whistle.

It's near to a miracle, near as I can tell... wink.

Dennis

ps...all three of my .280's were far better than either of the .270's I've had... shocked.


I seem to remember someone yanking chain at the local Sportsmans Whorehouse touting the 6.8-06 and suggesting it would be the new wonder round. Got the bobblehead doll behind the counter counting time on that one... wink

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Yep...did he ever build one for himself? Mind you, I do like the 6.8x63...I just like the .280 converted to 7mm Express ever so much better...

The 7mm-06 is different...suppose very many actually know that?

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Originally Posted by JohnMoses
Bob, I expected you to know.

I will sweeten the deal. Whomever comes up with the correct answer will win an African Safari with JB as your guide.

Ingwe will handle all gunbearer duties while sporting his african bush thong.


Take me out of the contest...NOW!!!

ETA: Nothing personal John... grin

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Originally Posted by JohnMoses
There is a difference, but ya'll ain't even close.


The 7mm Express has more powder in the factory ammunition than the .280 ammo, of the same era. Not sure what else is different, unless you know of some other subtle factory loading issue. In all seriousness and reality -- I've owned my current .280 and my RCBS 7mm Express dies since 1985, so I do have a small clue about their relationship... smile.

Dennis


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