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We have a winner.
But I may be wrong. The 7MM Express was loaded hotter which made it way over penetrate.
So the .280 is better.
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'Neither'.
270 Winchester of course! Well, that settled that ......... Wait, why is this thread 5 pages long already?.....  Casey
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We have a winner.
But I may be wrong. The 7MM Express was loaded hotter which made it way over penetrate.
So the .280 is better. So, you mean the 7mm Express was loaded like a 270W?.....  Casey
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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We have a winner.
But I may be wrong. The 7MM Express was loaded hotter which made it way over penetrate.
So the .280 is better. So, you mean the 7mm Express was loaded like a 270W?..... Casey Precisely. That's the whole reason they renamed it and reintroduced it -- so it would be loaded for bolt action rifles at the .270 et al level, rather than being held down for the 740's and 760's...even though the same pump and semiauto rifles were chambered for the .270 and .30-'06 cartridges loaded to higher pressures than the original .280's. So tell me how I'll receive my prize... ? Dennis
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We have a winner.
But I may be wrong. The 7MM Express was loaded hotter which made it way over penetrate.
So the .280 is better. So now you know why I have a .280 rifle with 7MM Express handloading equipment... Dennis
"The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets."
"If you're asking me something technical, you may be looking for My Other Brother Darrell."
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I shot two boxes of 7mm Express ammo thru the last 280 I owned...worked OK.....then I bought a 7x64....
but the 7mm Rem Mag beats them all for velocity....:-)
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I like the question......But what about the 30.06 vs the .270 .........Hillbilly.
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It's a tie- The 7MM Express has greater frontal area, but the 280 has a better selection of bullets for the reloader-
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Right...  ...that's why I use 7mm Express dies for reloading my .280... . Dennis
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Dennis
Do you have to anneal the necks when you do that?
Also, since I have you on the line, here is a reloading question that has ben bugging me. How heavy does a rifle have to be before I should use large rifle primers? Eight, nine pounds?
Thanks in advance.
Fred
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Fred, Under about 8.5 lbs, you should use magnum primers, because the rifle will kick more... You're welcome... ... Dennis
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A 7mm-'06 AI whups ass on either, of course....
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+1 on the 7mm-06 AI, my 45+ year old rifle is still doing the job.
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Is it truly a 7mm-06 AI, or a .280 AI? They are different, you know...
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AI: the cartridge that delivers an extra 100 fps and excites those who love to crow about how 100 fps don't matter.... grin...
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The 7mm Express, but only because it was available in the "pre 1981 Model 700", I think.
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+1 on the 7mm-06 AI, my 45+ year old rifle is still doing the job.
Phil Just curious...why did you build a 7mm-06 AI instead of building a .280 AI? I can see doing it before the .280 came out, but not afterwards. But maybe there's a reason I'm missing? Dennis
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Dennis,
This is a rifle that my uncle had built back in the early 60's (I am not sure of the exact year as being youngster at that time it did not register), I know through conversations with him prior to him passing is he felt this cartridge was good enough to take any game animal in AZ and I am sure that the abundance of 06 brass played into his decision (my theory only).
I have been using this rifle for the last 20 years myself and it has served extremely well.
It is a true 7mm-06 AI not a 280AI
I hope that answers your question.
Phil
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The .280 by far the superior choice. There is more load data for the .280 and are there 7mm Express AI chamber reamers available? The thought of a 7mm Express AI is just goofy! 
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