Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters How would you like to go varmint hunting with these guys?

What, no camoflauge? No jacked up truck with "Big Buck" sticker on the back window? Those guys can't be hunters...

Anyone identified the rifles? Be interested if there's any info...

Leupold & Neidner have stevens, #54's I think. In between them is a borchardt I think. Might be european tell for sure.

These five riflemen of the early 20th century are responsible for much of the development of high-velocity rifles and ammunition. In 1908, using a Niedner barrel, Mann fired the first shot ever from a 220 Swift. (Well almost; it was a 6mm Lee necked to 22.) Mann had pressure problems due to lack of suitable powders, and didn't develop it further.

There's a 13-page thread about this photo over on Doublegunshop.com: Link to Thread

Mike Petrov, who posts here, owns (owned?) the rifle held by Dr. Mann; I think he's shot it and reported on its accuracy.
--Bob

If I'm reading that pic right. It says - Shushan N.Y. 1911. Shushan is a couple miles north of Me, on the Battenkill River. I don't reconize the names, but it shouldn't be that hard to get a verification.

I'm not worthy!

I would liked to have just hung around them and picked their brains.

There have been other influential people in the firearms world but these guys were doing their thing in that great transition age between cast lead bullets over smokeless powder in iron barrels and smokeless powder, nickel-steel barrels, cupro-nickel jacketed bullets.

Thanks!

Ed

Elmer Keith said - Hell, I was there!

Not much for drooling over celebrities. I wonder if they had a sense of humor, my first consideration in choosing a hunting partner.

One thing is for sure though, I would over to hunt with their rifles.

I bet they'd be a hoot.

I have a couple of little whimsical doo-dads that Adolph Niedner made that speak oh so expressively of the breadth of his personality.

Dad said often � and accurately � that no single characteristic of a person is the totality of that person. I suspect that all four of those fellows were a lot more than what they're now remembered for.

Thanks for the info, gents, much appreciated.

Great Post! Thanks a lot!

I would, but I rather they traveled to my time than vice versa. Had I been motoring around with those guys, I'd probably have been pushing up daisies for quite some time.

Thanks for the picture/post.

looks like good times to be had!

I'd love to go shoot with that crowd, in fact I just may qualify as one of those curmudgeons, at least pretty close! I think I would personally prefer their company to the Black rifle crowd, the ARs etc. just don't blow my skirt up much..

I was told by a local gun dealer that I needed to buy a black rifle in case of insurection in the USA..Told him if it came to that I'd just shoot the first guy I saw (with my 300 H&H) and take his black rifle, as I'm not paying two grand for plastic and tin! Have no beef with the AR crowd just don't like their guns..I still have an affection for rust blue, European walnut, single shot rifles, double rifles and English bolt actions, those are curmudgeon guns and I qualify.

LOL!

Now there's a simple solution to a problem that I hadn't even thought of...!

Can anyone name the fifth person in the photo?

Car appears to be a Maxwell, about 1909-1911.

Here's a link to one very similar to the car in the photo. It's for sale at $79,500.

Link to 1911 Maxwell

--Bob

Michael-
If you're refering to my post above which says "five riflemen", then I appreciate your polite way of pointing out my typo.

But perhaps you see or know of a fifth person in the photo.

--Bob

Bob, He is standing in the doorway, you might have to right click on view image for a bigger picture.