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Originally Posted by AJD
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I have several 270 WSM's, the one I like the best for all around use is a Rem 700 CDL-SF, I put a McMillan edge on it with a VXIII 2.5-8 it comes in at under 7lbs. It is very accurate with 130 NAB's. I've had no issues with feeding.

I dont have a WSM in the Kimber but I do in a 260, I like the CDL-SF better. A lot of it is probably the fit as I ordered a custom LOP on my McM.

The model 70 SS Classic feeds the smoothest (NH model).

Great suggestion on the Remington 700 CDL SF. In fact I see they offer that model in Weatherby 257 which is another caliber I've considered. The Remington website lists the weight at 7 3/8 pounds; are you sure it's under 7 pounds? That is a serious contender for what I'm looking for.


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I'm positive.

I have found the weights on the Remington site have little basis in reality.

I also have one in the 77MK II, it feeds fine and is very accurate. It is heavier, and the action isn't as smooth, or as slick as the model 70. It is very accurate, leaves the Mdl 70 in the dirt accuracy wise.

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Well I do not know what bad experiences your friend has had with Tikkas,but my T3 Lite SS 270WSM shoots 5 rounds under 1" with almost any bullet weight.Weighs 6lbs. 6 oz. bare naked.I have 3 Tikkas right now.However I do not know the Savages weight ,but can verify they are excellent shooters out of the box.


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I traded for a Kimber 8400 in .270 WSM last year and it's by far the lightest scoped rifle that I own, and that includes a light .257 AI with a Rimrock stock and a S/S Remington mountain rifle with the barrel trimmed to 20 inches. The Kimber is not the most accurate rifle in the gun safe, but I have not had the time to play around much with hand loads. It shoots 1-1 1/4 MOA with Winchester factory 130 grain E-Tips. I would really like to get my hands on a Montana in one of the WSM chamberings, as the 8400 is really too nice to be subjected to my kind of hunting.


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Originally Posted by Bob33
He called Beretta customer service several times and they would not repair it for him. They said it was not designed to be used with a bipod. They did offer to sell him a replacement stock for $600.


Well that was mighty big of them. crazy crazy

Think I'd be on the lookout for a Lil Sky.


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No doubt in my mind I'd go Kimber Montana 8400.

I expect you can find a used one in the $850 range give or take if you aren't in a big hurry.

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Originally Posted by FVA
That is good to hear. I am thinking of having my one son pick up one in 270. I thought you had some issues with the bolt going over a round in the magazine.




The magazine issue was with a Sako 85(also in 300 WSM).


Bob, the stock broke at the front stud?
That would piss a guy off no doubt!

FWIW, I've got about 500 rounds through mine shooting from a Harris bipod and haven't had any issues. I don't doubt your story though and I certainly don't doubt Beretta's horrible(almost arrogant) customer service.

Good luck choosing a new rifle.

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Originally Posted by SKane
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He called Beretta customer service several times and they would not repair it for him. They said it was not designed to be used with a bipod. They did offer to sell him a replacement stock for $600.


Well that was mighty big of them. crazy crazy

Think I'd be on the lookout for a Lil Sky.


Another prime example of Beretta Disservice..I do not see anywhere on their literature where it says "not designed for use with a bipod"...the A7 has a flimsy foreend to boot.


I would say the slickest feeding WSM rifle though would be a Sako 75 or 85 action chambered for the WSM cartridges.

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Kimber!

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Kimber- most handsome little rig out there, in my opinion. And I wouldn't let accuracy bugs hinder me. As most will tell you--there customer service is excellent, and fit and finish is super.

I am very tempted to pick the kimber up myself.

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Originally Posted by FullMetalParka
Kimber- most handsome little rig out there, in my opinion. And I wouldn't let accuracy bugs hinder me. As most will tell you--there customer service is excellent, and fit and finish is super.

I am very tempted to pick the kimber up myself.

What do you mean by not letting accuracy bugs hinder me?

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To Kimber experts: what is the difference between the Montana and the 84M Classic or 84M Stainless?

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go to their website. 8400's are short mags and 84's 308 types, either can be wood or kevlar, I like both types.
no accuracy bugs on the 3 I own...

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guys put them down due to accuracy issues(which have been there in the past)

Kimber generally fixes these from what I have heard

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How astute!


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Beretta is just the importer of the SAKO A7 and all other SAKO firearms. Deal directly with SAKO-they will fix the rifle-if it did infact disinagrate as claimed. Send them a letter with pictures and request that the rifle be repaired. I'm sure that they will repair it. Let me know how it goes.


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Originally Posted by Bob33
To Kimber experts: what is the difference between the Montana and the 84M Classic or 84M Stainless?


Montana is stainless with synthetic stock, can be either 84M (short action) or 8400 (long, magnum and short magnum actions).

84M Classic is walnut/blued short action.

84M Classic Stainless is walnut/stainless short action.


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I have a SS Howa 1500 with the Hogue stock in 7mmWSM. I picked it up NIB a few years back for about $350. A great rifle, but I think it is 7 3/4#. Just be careful what you wish for in a light magnum rifle. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Kimber7man
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To Kimber experts: what is the difference between the Montana and the 84M Classic or 84M Stainless?


Montana is stainless with synthetic stock, can be either 84M (short action) or 8400 (long, magnum and short magnum actions).

84M Classic is walnut/blued short action.

84M Classic Stainless is walnut/stainless short action.

The Kimber website lists the Montana as a model in the 8400 category. It also lists the Classic Stainless as an 8400.

What I'm getting at is why do people recommend the "Montana" versus the "8400"? I think the website must be wrong. The individual specs show the Classic Stainless 8400 (walnut stock) weighs 6 lbs 10 ounces and the Montana 8400 lists as 6 pounds 9 ounces in 270 WSM. However, at the introductory page it reads "Model 8400 WSM Montana models weigh just over 6 pounds, and walnut-stocked models weigh only 8 ounces more."

Which is correct?

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The "Montana" merely destinguishes the difference between the wood version 8400/84M and the synthetic version(Montana).

If you re-select the .270 wsm after you select one of the other wsm cartridges, it switches to 6lbs 3 ounces. I called the factory on that very questions.

Good luck, I am very sure you will enjoy a kimber if you choose to buy one.

Edited for- I didn't understand your question about why we recommend the Montana vs. the 8400 wood. In reality, it is lighter, the web site is off.

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