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I have some Nosler Fail Safe bullets i have had for a while. They are 180gr .308. Anyone have any experience with these? And any idea of load data for the '06 and/or .300 win mag? Could one use load data for Barnes X bullets and be safe with these? I cant find a Nosler book with them in it.
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They used to be marketed as the Winchester Supreme Fail Safe - I believe they came 25 bullets packed in a small black box. Winchester had a separate sheet for loading those bullets back then (they behaved somewhat like the old Barnes X you mentioned). I had the sheet at one time, I will see if I can find it.
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I believe they're in Nosler #5 in the front of the book, and it should say something like, start w/ minimum loads when using Failsafes, and Partition Gold bullets, something to that extent.
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If they're the Combined Technology version, the bullets have been covered with pollution. If they are the original Winchester version, they are coated with Lubalox.
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Used that bullet in a 308. Great, great performance on bigger game.
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Failsafe are one of the premium controlled expansion bullets that have been discontinued, undoubtedly, because they were too expensive to manufacture. I believe each bullet had 5 components, as opposed to the current XP3 that replaced the Faisafe, which has I think 3 components.
The bullet opens similarly to other copper front bullets like Barnes X. I shot elk with it out of a 7.5 Swiss (twin brother of .308) and it was a one shot kill. I read some comments that is pencils through deer but I had no such experience. It is designed for deep penetration so I would think it might be better for elk and moose than deer.
All in all, excellent bullet in my opinion. I have a box of them and its a shame they were discontinued.
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