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Originally Posted by hunter8mm
i have a 700 remington classic in 8 mag and it is a hammer at both ends lots of power


My 375s seem to kick less, and anything that needs more killin' than the 30-06 class of cartridge provides wth heavy partitions gets a dose of a 260 Partition at Mach 2.5 or so.

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It's one of those cartridges that you look at, and say, "yes it will efficiently slam an elk, but other things are faster/hotter/easier/more common/etc. - so I won't plan my battery around it". Then of course you stumble across a good deal on one, and you think, "well...". That sequence is how I came by mine.

It's pretty easy to pass 3000 fps with 200 gr bullets. I still have some load development to do on mine, but it is an impressive round. The recoil, as others have said, is not trivial.

I guess to me it is one of those rounds like a .280, a .300 Norma, or a .357 magnum. Logically, it's redundant to other things in the battery, but if you stumble across a good gun in the caliber, there's no reason not to buy it and use it to its potential.



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GS makes a 170 grain .323 bullet that I have not loaded yet but intend to, i am told 3400 is reasonable, I will settle for 3300 fps. I have 180, 215, and 235 Blue Mountain bullets for it, 250 grain Hawks, 180 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips, 200 Grain A Frame, 220 Grain A Frame, and I believe Barnes makes a 200 and maybe another bullet it for it. Double Tap as well as Remington has factory ammo. I live in Alaska and have settled on the 8 Mag as my Alaskan Caliber. Yes it wont do any thing the various 300's or the 338 Win or 340 wea wont do but than again many calibers over lap. I shot my Dall Ram at 450 plus yards with a nosler ballistic tip I dont know that I could of done so with the 308 I was going to use. Also one gentleman in here had his 8mm rebarreled to a 300 Ultra Mag, I had a 300 Ultra Mag, Browning, A Bolt rebarreled to the 8 Mag. I love the cartridge but there are others.

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Just FYI.... and I hesitate to say this, as it's not a knock on the 8-mag but might seem like it..... well, anyway, it's said that the 8-mag will break 3000 fps easily with 200's. Fair 'nuff.

The .325 WSM will easily break 2900 fps with 200's, and at least in my two featherweights (Kimber and BLR) recoil is not bad at all.

So... if 8-mag recoil is as stout as everyone says, that makes the .325 look pretty good at only 100 fps behind but (apparantly) much less recoil.

Again, just FYI. Not peeing on anyone's rifle here. The 8-mag seems like it'd be fun to try, and based on how well my "lite" version has done on say elk .... man.... it's gotta be quite effective, to say the least!

As another aside, the 175-gn Sierra PH is a nifty practice bullet. Cheap, very accurate and easy to load in both my .325's, and a decent BC. In fact I've cooked up a load at ~3000 fps that matches the trajectory of my hunting load (200-gn NAB at 2900 fps) that I can use it out to 600 yds with the same come-ups on the turret.

Just some 8mm babbling. We 8mm lovers are few and far between.


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Personally I think that if it's too tough to knock over with a .300 magnum and 180 grain premium bullets, there's no point in using anything less than a .375 H&H. My .375 H&H does not seem to kick as hard as my .300 Weatherby. With things that rough you're not concerned with 400 yard shots. At least I'm not.


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I'm happy enough with my 8mmMag BDL.I bedded it into a McMillan Mountain rifle stock,and while recoil is substancial,I don't find it overwhelming.Alliant lists a 200gr A-frame load at 3200fps with RL-25,but I found the bolt a bit sticky and backed off.I find it to be the perfect BC moose/grizzly rifle although there are lots of others that would do the job just fine.I'm tempted to try the new Barnes 160gr TTSX in 8mm,and see how fast it'll go! Monashee


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I have had a Rem 700 BDL 8mm for several yrs and haven't had opportunity to hunt anything larger than whitetail and it's much more gun,power, & recoil than needed for deer. The recoil is NOT UNMANAGABLE but unnecessary for deer. I have handloaded 185, 200, & 220 gr bullets for velocity and accuracy with ACCURACY having priority.
For deer, 185 or 200 gr. bullets are plenty and in some bullets too heavy i.e. insufficient expansion. I live in Arkansas and apply every yr for an elk permit w/o any luck so far. WHEN,IF I get to hunt elk I will use 200 gr Nosler partitions (because I have them & they're reliable).

For game heavier than deer Barnes triple x come in 160,180, & 200 gr. that I know of. Swift A frame come in 200 gr.
I have had good luck with IMR 7828 & IMR 4831 achieving 3100fps with 200 gr bullets and 2900fps with 220 gr weight. You MUST work up to the maximum powder charge with YOUR gun. I'm not prejudiced against the 338 WM but my personal preference is 8mm Mag over 338 WM because there is more powder capacity, flatter trajectory, and better sectional density and ballistic coefficients with bullets of 200 & 220 gr.
I have handloaded the 338 WM with 225 gr. bullets and 2900 fps is certainly achievable but trajectory and sectional density of 8mm Mag 220 & 200 gr is better, however you might not be able to tell the difference in hunting situations.
I don't pretend to be an expert, I'm offering my experience from handloading & chronographing with experience in deer hunting ONLY with 8 Mag. I hope this is helpful.


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