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I was a little surprised about the Barnes and 2230. I loaded both of them 1 grain under the max load published by Barnes. There is probably some room to move them a little faster.

The 210 Partition was a great surprise. I may be able to go a little higher with that one too but it's pretty compressed might be able to go up .5 or 1 grain max with the MR powder.

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Originally Posted by Spotshooter

A partition would be interesting too test.

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I tested the 210 Partition and 160 TTSX this weekend using phone books. Impact velocity of the Partition was about 2650 and the TTSX was over 3,000. TTSX weighed 159, not surprising. The partition did what partitions do. Blow the front core and penetrate. Partition weighed 153 grains.
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Which one penetrated more?

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The partition by about 2.5" but the whole was much bigger. I think the TTSX would make a great deer bullet launched at 3,000+ fps. For Elk, I would definitely go with the 185TTSX or the 210 Partition.


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Guys thanks for this discussion. I am going to pick up my new Ruger HE in .338 Federal next week. I just bought some 180 BT's from shooters pro shop you guys may want to check it out. Also what are you doing for brass? Necking up .308? I can not find .338 Federal head stamped brass?


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Just necked up another batch of Win .308 brass last night. Works well every time. Apply a little lube inside the neck and all is good.

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C Roy - I'm using a mix of necked up Federal 308 and Lapua 308 brass as well as 338 Fed brass from factory loads. I use the RCBS dies for resizing and the Redding neck sizer for follow on work. The Fed 308 brass is the same weight as the 338 Fed stamped brass so they are interchangeable. The Lapua brass has a bit more room to work with. FYI, latest from Federal is that the availability 338 Fed stamped brass has slid to September. Was originally supposed to be out last month.

I picked up 200 of the 180 BTs for plinking (or deer if I feel inclined). Also using left over 200 SSTs and 200 Hot Cors for plinking. My go to hunting bullet will likely be the 185 TTSX.

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Congrats on the new rifle. Post your results. Paul and I are getting sick of talking to each other. Be nice to have another person on the thread.


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Mark,
If you don't like the narrow wound channel of the NP, you may not like the TTSX then. Bullets retain 100% weight. Entrance wound = same dia. as bullet, exit wound = twice the diameter of bullet. But let me just say that despite this, the bullet is quite destructive once it gets inside the soft tissue. I did not have a way of actually measuring the interior wound channel but I would venture to say that it was 7Xs the diameter & turned to mush.

For clean kills on deer, that make for easy field dressing, this pill is superb, (hit the vital zone & it is over) but I don't think it would be good for bear protection. I guess I would want something to break up a little more and leave a profusely bleeding exit wound. As you know you don't get to set the crosshairs, you just point & shoot. Thoughts?

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Not sure if anyone is still here. But for what its worth I finally picked my load for my .338 Fed. Basics: Kimber 84M, 22" tube, max COL 2.82", CCI BR2. Win .358 Win brass (found this works better than necking up, and almost 2 gr. H2O more room than Fed brass). I went through all of the powders and most of the bullets listed above (except Nosler). I had best luck with AA2230, AA2460, I3031, and I8208. I settled on the 185 TTSX, as it gave the best down range energy and likely expansion at 1700-1800 fps.

I now load a 185 TTSX with 50.7 gr I8208 to 2775 fps. I also have to trim the case to 1.985" and lightly crimp to keep it all together and short enough for my action. I am seeing standard deviations in the single digits and no temperature variation so far (no extreme cold testing yet). I see about 1.5 MOA, which is as good as I think my gun can do (although recent long range testing 4-500 yds seems to suggest my accuracy might be better than that at longer ranges.

Hope that helps.


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2775 with a 185 TTSX is a very nice capability. Plan on hunting elk with that this year? Like to hear how it works. 8208 is my list of things to try, and clearly it is working well for the 338 FED. My 185 TTSX load is 2730-2740ish with excellent accuracy using TAC. 8208 is 'supposed' to be incredibly stable across a very wide temp range. Great, another thing I really need to try.

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Son took medium sized moose this year on kalgin island, 100yds shoulder hit with the federal 200gr fusion, performed perfectly, for now that will be my bullet. Broke both shoulders, stopped under skin on far side, perfect mushroom.

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Received some 210 Partitions from fellow 24hr member scottfromdallas and loaded them up with 2000-MR today. Didn't have a chrono, but the first three at 52gr shot .5". Especially good on a day where loads I thought were trusty shot rather poorly. Might suggest some operator error... whistle Maybe the Barnes are picky about copper in the barrel? It was pretty dirty from multiple types of bullets. Anyway, looking forward to shooting the 210 more and if it gets me even close to the 2660 Scott was seeing I'll be quite pleased. That would make a real nice elk load!

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Glad they work for you. My rifle is a picky bastard and only seems to like 200 Hot-Cors, Accubonds and Ballistic Silvertips. Hot-Cors give me the best accuracy so I'm stocking up before they get replaced with the deep curl.


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A few Hot Cors did arrive at your door didn't they? Hope so! The good news is the bullets you listed will probably kill just about anything you want to shoot.

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FYI, 338 FED brass is now available at Midsouth.

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Shot some IMR 8208 XBR in the 338 Fed yesterday. No chrono, but accuracy was the best across the board I've seen. Was with 180 BTs, 200 Hot Cors and 185 TTSXs all with Fed 210 Primers and Federal brass. Also tried some 200 SSTs with H4895 and 210 primers. Accuracy had been so-so with BR2s but was fantastic with the 210s. Food for thought.

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I know I'm late to this party, but has anyone (thats still looking here anyways) tried the Leverevolution powder in the 338 Fed? I loaded a 200 gr BT over 48.2 grn of LVR powder and got groups of 0.7-0.8 out of 22 in barrel and wanted to know if anyone else had similar results. Also, I haven't had time to chrono this load and wanted to know if someone had a fps on LVR powder of any charge/bullet combo.

Hodgdon states that 49.0 grn of LVR will push a 210 Scirocco at 2622 from a 24 in barrel. So I was guessing my 200 grn BT was close to 2600. Thoughts?

I'm hopeful to push a 210 Scirocco 2550+ for a Dec elk hunt.

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I'll have to dig up my notes for details, but I have tried LVR with 210 Partitions and the 210 Scirocco II. If I recall, it was very accurate with the Sciroccos. I have not had the opportunity to chrono that load however. Finding the right length is key to accuracy with the Scirocco IIs I've found. I do know that I can get just under 2600 (2580s?) using TAC and the Scirocco II (that's a 22" barrel). Just over 2600 with the 210 TTSX. Have not been able to get the 210 TTSX to shoot at all for accuracy though. 8208 XBR has been very accurate for me with 180 BTs and 185 TTSXs, and 200 Hot Cors, and book indicates velocities should be good too. You should have no problem getting a 200gn well over 2600. I have tried 200 SSTs with H4895 and got 2667 avg on the chrono.

Edit: guess I repeated some of what I written above. That was awhile ago...

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At 46 and 47 grn of TAC my acuuracy dropped a bit to about 1.2-1.5 inches shooting the same 200 grn BT. Maybe this was shooter error but that was my first impression.

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