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I firmly believe that every centerfire big game cartridge introduced after the .30 WCF was wasted effort. What I carried much of last week.
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....let's stick to common weights deer hunters use in the 270 - the 130, and 7/08 users run - the 140. Watched a hunter drop a Mule Deer from 450 yards with a 7-08 & a 140 Accubond. 270 what now? The AB is a fave of mine in 6.5, .277, and 7 on deer. The 95 BT is too good in the 6 to overlook. Interesting to see over 130k views on this thread. Lol. JB is right as always and I’ve said it many times. When you cut thru the # crunching which is good discussion and entertainment, one has many options which serve most well. Since this post the Creedmoor has taken the spotlight. Ironically before this post, top brass at the Hornady booth at the Shot show told me when I asked about a 6.5TC, they were making a “270 on the 30TC that fires a 120 at the same speed as the 270 Win” Not sure if he misspoke and meant 6.5, or if they settled in the better BC bullets in 6.5. Back to the Corelokts. IIRC Big Green often had ads that they were the “Deadliest mushroom in the WOODS”.... Bullet technology has improved greatly since the 30 in the pic just above. Now back to the 270. In America it’s been the closest bore size next to the .264 save the not so common .257. I often say, a 6.5 is a good place to be. The 270 gained the success it did because it’s proven to be highly effective and easy for most shooters to place shots. A 270 like the 7/08 and even 6.5’s have more great bullets than ever before. I proposed a 6 and 22 Creedmoor shortly after the 6.5 launch. Stay tuned....many shooters seem to be noticing the virtues of good bullets in mild short action rounds, spun at proper RPM’s, chambered in affordable accurate rifles fed with like ammo. One has to admit, Winchester had big hits after the 30-30, with their 270, 308, and 243. They have staying power, and I agree with SuperCub.
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I firmly believe that every centerfire big game cartridge introduced after the .30 WCF was wasted effort. In Europe, someone is saying the same about the 6.5x55.
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This would be interesting, in light of the current faster twist Bbl's and high BC bullets of late.
Not to mention the U.S. Military adoption of the high-pressure version of this very cartridge, using the low-pressure, brass cased variety for practice.
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Although the SIG .277 Fury is now the wheel. GR
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Wouldn't do anything a fast-twist .270Win couldn't do better, out of a std. hunting rifle. But the man-bun crowd do love their short actions. Not to mention the semi-auto crowd, which actually makes some sense. GR
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Wouldn't do anything a fast-twist .270Win couldn't do better, out of a std. hunting rifle. But the man-bun crowd do love their short actions. Not to mention the semi-auto crowd, which actually makes some sense. GR SA was popular far before the "man bun".
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Although the SIG .277 Fury is now the wheel. GR Not sure exactly. Testing has proven it to be heavy, ammo is heavy. Real world it doesn't actually do a lot more than the 7.62x51. Not a plus in my book.
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I firmly believe that every centerfire big game cartridge introduced after the .30 WCF was wasted effort. That is just rhetorical hyperbole.
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Hey there, loony types! 😄 Just wanted to chime in with my two cents on the Winchester vs. Remington debate. A 270-08 Winchester sounds like a killer idea! Better ballistics, lighter recoil, and the legendary 270 performance in a compact package. Who wouldn't want that? Winchester, are you listening? Let's see who's up for the challenge! And hey, Winchester management, if you need a marketing guru, I'm your guy! Send me a PM, and let's make magic happen! 🎯💪
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<cough> Sig brass cased .277 Fury <cough>
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I firmly believe that every centerfire big game cartridge introduced after the .30 WCF was wasted effort. That is just rhetorical hyperbole. Gee, ya think? Or the form of humor called "irony"?
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I firmly believe that every centerfire big game cartridge introduced after the .30 WCF was wasted effort. That is just rhetorical hyperbole. Gee, ya think? Or the form of humor called "irony"? No insult meant!
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You don't need a .270-08. We already have the .270 Redding and .277 Fury - both of which are better designs and give more performance than a straight .270-08. And...way better than a .308. Far better sectional density of a .277 140 v .308 150, better b.c of same, and faster by 100 fps .
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This whole thing sounds like and answer in search of a question.
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They will probably call it a 6.8 something. If they asked me to name it I'd call is a 270 Win #2, or a 277 Winchester.
But it's odd how things in the gun industry get named. The .277 inch is the closest thing in the gun world to a true 7MM.
.03937X 7 = .27559"
A true .277 would be 7.06MM
What we call a 7MM is actually 7.21MM
Some cartridges are just names something that sounds cool to the maker I guess. One of those that is an outstanding cartridge and yet is WAY misnamed is the 404 Jeffery. NOTHING on that cartridge measures .404"
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Which is why John Lazzeroni named his proprietary "7mm" the 7.21 Firebird....
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