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A 308 Winchester with a 208 A-Max at 3000fps? Must have been some of Montana Marines loads ............................DJ

There's no telling where her Imagination takes her,let alone why.

I dig that she's never seen/shot either boolit...and don't think dumbphucktitude of that magnitude can be topped.


But my fingers IS crossed....................

My rifle loves the 208gr A-max loaded kissing the lands but the mag well in my BDL dont. 3.60" is about all the longer I can go and have it feed well from the mag, at that the long A-max is stuffed too far in the case for my likeing, they look retarded.

I hear good things aboutta 2.5" H&H hull necked to 7mm in them boxes,with a 162. Thoughts?

Grin...............

I think I might have read something about that in F&S one time

Best source of Intel on the 'net.

Can't wait to see what's in next month's issue!................

That's funny.

I'm getting them into the 2600s in the 308Win. Brought home a 26" 700 SPS Varmint LH, a couple weeks ago. 2675 fps, via moly, and 48gr RL17 in heavy milsurp brass. 2620 fps in the 20.5" 308Win using 50gr RL17 in roomy Winchester brass, and moly.

I can't help but think the 7-08 could make 2800 fps with the 162, via RL17, moly, and 22" bbl.

How many critters have you seen or personally ventilated with the crummy 7mm VLD Bullets? Curious as to where you get your expertise on such matters. Continue to pound your chest, you are the only one watching. Flinch

How many have you shot with the 7mm VLDs? I am assuming some experiance since you term them as crummy.

If you would pull your head out of the mud and actually SHOOT both side by side (162 grain 7 mm Amax at 3,100 and 200 grain .338 ballistic tip at 3,200) you would quickly find that they are IDENTICAL in drop and drift at 1,000 yards, give or take an inch. I'm not talking paper ballistics with fairy dust sprinkled in, but actually shooting them. If you are good enough at that range to tell the difference, I bow before you. Keep laughing, because you haven't shot anything in VLD in 7mm. Continue chest pounding. It amuses me big time. Flinch

...Eddy, I was being sarcastic. VLD 7mm's are the bomb..especially the 162 Amax. Flinch

I guess any BT long secant ogive bullet is considered a VLD?

Flinch have you killed many elk with the 162Amax? How far and how did it do? I have never used the bullet,but recently bought some for my 7 mag.

Thanks.

No I wasn't. You said the 7mm outruns (wind drift) the .30 from comparable cases. The chart I posted shows otherwise, since the 208 Amax has a higher enough BC than the 162 Amax to compensate for about 100 fps of MV.

Hence 3100 fps for the 7 mag and 3000 fps from the 300 Winnie. Arbitrary numbers, sure, but the 100 fps difference is more or less correct.

I understand you not liking this fact being shown so clearly, but at least play fair here and don't distort what I say.

Here's the chart again. The result would be essentially the same if this was a 7-08 at 2700 fps and a .308 at 2600 fps.... remember?

Hey Flinch, Calm down man. I see your one of the testy ones around here. I did not state the VLD was "crummy". I've never used a VLD on game, never will, and I even have a kick ass accurate load for the 190 grain in my RUM. Worked it up about 6 years ago. It just amuses me that the bullet makes the 7mm a kill all do all one shot dead on the spot rifle. Some of us don't buy in. Sure seems to irritate you if one challenges the idea. I'd like to know also how many elk you've VLD'ed to death. Ranges? One shot kills I bet. There's lots of ways to do it, and some of us aren't scared of the big bad .30's. mtmuley

Stick, here's the 7-08 and .308 comparison, you know the one where you said the 7-08 was "better".

Now don't make me drop a limerick on yo' ass..........

Copy/paste what I said...so as to leave your Imagination out of it.

It'll be funny!..............

My hunting partner has shot them religiously at my side for the last 12 years. I do all his load development and testing. I shoot his Remington Sendero rifle more than he does, but he has gotten some great tags! He has money too, so he buys a lot of them. I have sat at his side and watched the results, so it isn't second hand or heresay. He shot a 380 bull this past season at 535 yards with massive trauma and wound channel, 350 bull last year at 565 yards, shot in the shoulder broad side, shattered shoulder bones, made pudding out of innards. He shot a 320 bull the year before at 506. Shot it in the shoulder broad side, same results as previous. 118 coues deer at 485. Shot it behind the shoulder, massive pudding huge exit hole. 130 white tail at 370, major pudding and exit hole through the lungs. Golf balls sized entrance and exit holes. 170 mule deer frontal shot at 635, major pudding, big exit hole. 165 mule deer at 435, broadside pudding and big exit hole. Pronghorn antelope 95 yards broad side, again, major pudding and huge exit hole. Bison 20 yards shot at base of skull. Powdered neck bones and base of skull, bit exit hole (probably bone and jacket). Countless smaller antelope, mule deer and coyotes out to 500 yards. He even took the bullet to Africa 5 years ago and killed several truck loads of critters for leopard bait. The PH was extremely impressed. The .380 bull was the ONLY critter that took a second shot and that was because he muffed the shot, but the bull still dropped and was dead. He uncoupled the back bone and shattered the pelvic on the first shot, but the bull was still wiggling (bull was facing him at an extreme down hill angle). I have used the 162 with several fabulous results as well, but he has me beat by FAR! I'm not getting testy with your .338 chest pounding. I just know first hand and second hand what the 162 Amax will do up close and at extreme range. You can't beat it for mild recoil, lack of shooting expense, long range ability and zapping critters like they are hit with a sledge hammer. Flinch

Flinch just curious what was the furthest kill on big game have you use the 162 on. You did say they could keep pace with the big 338s out to a thousand. I do see 635 yards but that's not want I would call extreme range.

Shane running those in mine at 2560 with Lapua brass. I wasn't able to reach your speeds, they just fell a little short.