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My experience has taught me that I see more diffs tween different lots than I generally do with differing temps and this goes for most of the powders I've done b4 and after with.

More than once I've see where lot to lot diff was 100 fps. (ouch)

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I've long said that if a 308 won't shoot 47 Varg with a 168 then it's either worn out or just plain stupido.. grin

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
I've long said that if a 308 won't shoot 47 Varg with a 168 then it's either worn out or just plain stupido.. grin

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Dober, you run 47 gr's Varget and 168's?


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pretty sure that's what it was..hmm, maybe I should check?

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
pretty sure that's what it was..hmm, maybe I should check?

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Only ask cause I've found my current 308 can handle up to 47 gr's...


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My bad---short term cranial anal moment

It's 46 of Varg with the 165/168's

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Side note, I fondled and slobbered on three tree oh eights today..

Won't be long

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
My bad---short term cranial anal moment

It's 46 of Varg with the 165/168's

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46.0 is the manual load...


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47 can be a little warm with some 165/168's, but I haven't seen all that much variation in different lots of Varget. Certainly not like I've seen in many other powders.


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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Side note, I fondled and slobbered on three tree oh eights today..

Won't be long

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How many queue's for 7-08 vs 308 at the Billings Cabela's?


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
47 can be a little warm with some 165/168's, but I haven't seen all that much variation in different lots of Varget. Certainly not like I've seen in many other powders.


I agree John, 47.0 isn't for every barrel or every 165...


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I've seen the 46 load shoot so well that 4 me one more grain (what maybe 33 fps? isn't worth it to me. Now there was a day, that I'd of tried to stuff a lot more than that in it. But, that was back in my days of Presidency of the Red Liners club..grin

I saw 8 SKU's for the 7/08 and 44 for the 308--wowsa

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Mark, depends on the barrel, no?

I wouldn't push to get another 30 fps with any round... but if accuracy increases and pressures are still fine?


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Absolutely it depends on the barrel. And for sure if accuracy is better and pressures still fine then powder river let er buck.

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I have a 250 Savage that really likes Varget, but not with book loads. grin

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Those darn .250 book loads!


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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Absolutely it depends on the barrel. And for sure if accuracy is better and pressures still fine then powder river let er buck.

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Only say that Dober as my last 308 used a grain less than book for max loads and my current uses a full book load (or more) to be where the other was! They're all individuals... but velocity = pressure IMO there's no free lunch.


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Originally Posted by mathman
I have a 250 Savage that really likes Varget, but not with book loads. grin


Ha!

250 Savage "Book Loads" are two things that don't belong in the same sentence!

At least Hodgdon has the decency to give CUP/PSI for those weak loads!


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Brad, that's exactly what more than one ballistic lab-tech has told me. In fact, during my last visit to a pressure lab, the tech said, "A chronograph is the home handloader's best friend!"


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