24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 381
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 381
Does any one have a good way to tenderize elk steaks for grilling without marinating them in something that changes the flavor a lot? I just used a Jarrod meat tenderizer, olive oil and Montreal steak Seasoning on backstrap, cooked it medium rare and it was tasty but tough as hell.

I hate to stew or slow cook all the steaks so any recommendations would be appreciated.


Montani Semper Liberi

"Mountaineers Are Always Free"

GB1

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,822
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,822
wip the hell out of it with a meat hammer....salt and pepper


Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,249
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,249
This thread was running last week with some good suggestions on it.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4756998/1



Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,249
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,249
Originally Posted by blackdogsrule
any recommendations would be appreciated.


Chew harder laugh laugh

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,422
T
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
T
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,422
Run him over with a Mack or Peterbuilt before You decide to shoot Him. That or personally beat him up with a baseball bat.

IC B2

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950
Sprinkle with Adolf's unseasoned meat tenderizer (use instead of salt) and black pepper. Pound with a tenderizer hammer until steaks are half as thick. Sprinkle with white vinegar and let stand in the fridge for 8 or more hours. Sear the outside quickly over a hot fire and serve. The less you cook it, the more tender the steak.


Our God reigns.
Harrumph!!!
I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 35
N
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
N
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 35
Milk.

I don't know all the chemistry/details (enzymes I think), but it works.

Trim the meat up nice and clean, put it in a bowl and add enough milk to just enough cover it; put it in the fridge or on the counter depending on meat temp. You want the meat warmed up some from fridge temps when it hits the grill. I use 2% milk because that is what we have in the house. Tenderizing-wise it does fine. Fat content does not seem to matter. (Buttermilk seems to tweak the flavor nicely, and I use it for variety sometimes.)

Try 30-45 minutes on a batch of pieces, cook one piece, and try it. Adjust as needed.

Jaccard is definitely a useful tool, but I've never needed it on backstrap.

+1 on the recommendation to not overcook it, and don't let it cool off either. I sometimes use plates like you used to see in steakhouses, steel inserts in plastic carriers, just to keep it hot. If you are trying multilple dishes at once, pick all accompaniments so they stall well or just plan on a multi-course meal. Get the meat while it is HOT!

Enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 8
J
New Member
Offline
New Member
J
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 8
Marinade in red wine over night.

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950
Originally Posted by jdbfair
Marinade in red wine over night.


Mmm, that sounds good. I once had reindeer steak in a restaurant in Stockholm named Fem Sma Hous (probably spelled wrong, but it means "five little houses"). That meat was delicious and it was obvious that red wine was used at some point in the preparation. It was also consumed by the glass during the meal. smile


Our God reigns.
Harrumph!!!
I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,649
jpb Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 8,649
Originally Posted by Big_Redhead
Originally Posted by jdbfair
Marinade in red wine over night.


Mmm, that sounds good. I once had reindeer steak in a restaurant in Stockholm named Fem Sma Hous (probably spelled wrong, but it means "five little houses"). That meat was delicious and it was obvious that red wine was used at some point in the preparation. It was also consumed by the glass during the meal. smile

You are very close, Big Redhead!

The restaurant is Fem Sm� Hus and the oldest part dates from 1651.

I have only been there once, but it was very good. For a fine restaurant in the old quarter of Stockholm, the prices are very resonable too.

They have a serious wine cellar too: How about a nice 1958 Ch�teau Latour, 1:er Cru, for 6900 kr (USD $1028)? Too rich for my wallet, but nice to know such things are still around!

John

IC B3

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,568
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,568
hobart meat cuber will do it or a pressure cooker

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,948
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,948
Shoot a cow instead wink


Wanted: Vintage Remington or Winchester hats, patches, shirts. PM me if you have something.

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950
Originally Posted by jpb
Originally Posted by Big_Redhead
Originally Posted by jdbfair
Marinade in red wine over night.


Mmm, that sounds good. I once had reindeer steak in a restaurant in Stockholm named Fem Sma Hous (probably spelled wrong, but it means "five little houses"). That meat was delicious and it was obvious that red wine was used at some point in the preparation. It was also consumed by the glass during the meal. smile

You are very close, Big Redhead!

The restaurant is Fem Sm� Hus and the oldest part dates from 1651.

I have only been there once, but it was very good. For a fine restaurant in the old quarter of Stockholm, the prices are very resonable too.

They have a serious wine cellar too: How about a nice 1958 Ch�teau Latour, 1:er Cru, for 6900 kr (USD $1028)? Too rich for my wallet, but nice to know such things are still around!

John


John,

Thanks for the clarification and interesting information. I was there in 1994 during a business trip. I worked for Electrolux at the time. We visited several E-lux facilities in Sweden, including at the city of Motala. Other parts of the trip included a weekend in Venice, Italy, and another weekend in Lagronio [sp], Spain. I will always remember this trip as one of the high points in my life. I would love to travel to Europe again, but I doubt I will ever be able to afford it on my own.


Our God reigns.
Harrumph!!!
I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,209
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,209
how are you judging medium rare, color or temp? thr jaquard tenderizer is used at a local legend steak house here and I have learned it is the secret tool....no fancy steaks, just seasoning and a bunch of little holes.


Originally Posted by BrentD

I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,068
M
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,068
blackdogsrule,

I dunno if you looked at the other thread, but so far nobody has mentioned pre-cooking meat care. I'm not just talking basics like field-dressing, but correct aging of anything older than a 2-year-old elk.

We've had reasonably tender backstrap off 10-year-old bulls, simply by aging the meat enough before butchering. This normally takes at least a week, though sometimes can take longer. If it wasn't possible before butchering and freezing, then it can still be done with each package afterward, by letting the cut in the refrigerator for a week or even more.

My own experience is that it doesn't tenderizers or pounding meat to make elk backstrap easily chewable when cooked any sort of rare.

Marinading to tenderize meat helps. The basic principle is to use some acidic liquid, including the buttermilk or red wine already mentioned in this thread.


If you want a LOT more detail and science about all of this, my wife's book SLICE OF THE WILD has it all: www.riflesandrecipes.com


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 22,735
B
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 22,735
Originally Posted by Mule Deer

If you want a LOT more detail and science about all of this, my wife's book SLICE OF THE WILD has it all: www.riflesandrecipes.com


Get this book people, I find new ideas every time I pick it up!
Its the "go to" book, period!


My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 381
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 381
Mule Deer,

The books look good. May just get 2 of them.

Thanks all.


Montani Semper Liberi

"Mountaineers Are Always Free"


Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

595 members (007FJ, 16penny, 10gaugemag, 1lessdog, 10Glocks, 2500HD, 57 invisible), 2,203 guests, and 1,109 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,201
Posts18,466,042
Members73,925
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.093s Queries: 14 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8711 MB (Peak: 0.9944 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-24 15:41:36 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS