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Oh, no, I wouldn't spend my retirement money on guns.

Of course, my retirement "plan" is to keep working until they pry my guns from my cold dead fingers....


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Any gun made out of solid gold was likely a good investment, most especially if bought about 10 years ago.


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Or before Jan. 1, 2011. Gold has dropped since then, but who knows about the rest of the year?


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I sure wish I had a relative that bought a Lefever Optimus in 1905 for $400.00 and kept great care of it, then decided to leave it to me. I would be one really happy camper.


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Am thinking the S&W pre-lock would be a LOT better investment than the new ones...

The older ones seem to bring a premium.

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It's not what you buy, it's how you buy it...

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I don't buy as an investment. I buy what I think I'll enjoy shooting.

At the range, I see a lot of AR and AK stuff. Not too many of us show up with blue and wood. In fact, I was once referred to as "that old guy with the John Wayne rifle (Marlin 357)". The AK and AR stuff seems to be where the market is in rifles. I'm not sure I'd net too much from selling my rifles, because I don't have much in the way of zombie guns.

I do wish I'd picked up a couple more Bulgarian Makarovs when they were plentiful though. It's a durable, cheap, reliable, accurate sidearm. They are not beautiful, but they are very well designed to do what they do.


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Who would think that mint all matching Arisakas and Lee
Enfield SMLEs would bring the money that they do today?

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RifleDude: I think you are way off base here!
My firearms investments are doing a hell of a lot better than the .01% that my savings account is earning!
My firearms investment are doing a hell of a lot better than virtually all real estate in the United States these days!
My firearms investments are also doing a hell of a lot better than the traditional stocks and bonds are doing of late.
Yeah you are way off base in comparing those "traditional investments" in a positive light next to my firearms!
I am way ahead with the guns compared to MOST other traditional investments these days!
Gold is not exactly a "traditional investment in most peoples eyes but for those who consider it "traditional" and have invested in it, it has been doing well of late.
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Really? It only takes a cursory thumbing through the latest edition of the "Blue Book of Gun Values" to quickly see the vast majority of guns are not very good investments. I happened to be perusing my copy earlier this week, in fact. Of course, considering something is an investment presupposes you plan to one day sell it. I have no plans to ever sell any of my guns, ergo, not investments.

Obviously not all "traditional investments" are good investments. You're generalizing and oversimplifying things just a tad, there. Real estate can be a MUCH better investment than any guns. It all depends on location, location and location. There's also a time element involved. Just because something doesn't look so hot now doesn't mean 10, 15, 20 years from now it wasn't an excellent investment.


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What does your "blue book of guns" list a pristine Lefever Optimus at?


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Guns that get shot are not investments, not really.
Another one that makes me grumble these days is any lot of oddball Mausers in-country since 2000. I mean, Turk Mausers were coming ashore and retailing for 40 bucks. Now you can't even get a stripped bolt for that.
Honestly, tho, I think most of us aren't going to sell a darn thing until we are too old and clapped out to enjoy the money.


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The best financial gun investment is a good 30-06, 300, or 338 with a good scope. If I could just stick to one rifle for all my hunting I'd be way ahead financialy....

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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
What does your "blue book of guns" list a pristine Lefever Optimus at?


Probably about 50% of what you bought yours for from Tony Galazan.. wink



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Gentlemen,
I wish I had listened to that little man running around in the back of my head back in the mid 70's and bought a couple of more Colts. I ended up with (3) 6" Blue Pythons I have an average of $250 each invested. If a guy had only picked up matching Diamondbacks in 22LR and 38Spcl. With about the same per piece invested at todays market prices I would be happy with pistols worth 5 to 8 times over a 35 year period.

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I didn't know Tony had one for sale. I see you are keeping your eyes on him pretty hard.

That beauty would be just a little out of my league. I must admit it is may favorite high grade American by far.


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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
What does your "blue book of guns" list a pristine Lefever Optimus at?


Up to $60K.

I trust you aren't using that shotgun as an example to demonstrate that guns as a whole are great monetary investments, as that falls squarely in the "exception to the rule" category.


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There are a few Doubles that will bring that price. But even lower grades will still bring a great price. For example I bought my first Win Model 21 Duck Grade in 1985 for $1500, sold that one in 2007 for $5500.


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American Classic Doubleguns have more then held their value. Of course one needs to know a thing or two of them before making the investment.


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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
I didn't know Tony had one for sale. I see you are keeping your eyes on him pretty hard.

That beauty would be just a little out of my league. I must admit it is may favorite high grade American by far.



At least you admit you can't afford one. Which sure is more honest than 99% of the other lies you've told thus far.

Your mention of the "blue book" as well as your dealings with Galazan, shows what you know about ACTUAL market values of anything that goes bang.

Your 20g CSM RBL side by side listed on the classified does not seem to define " High Value Liquidity"


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