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7-08 MO BETTER choice.120gr TSX'S BAD MOJO.
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I have long been a .308 hater. In a really light rifle where the .308 should be most at home the little SOB kicks too hard to enjoy extended shooting sessions. In heavier rifles the ballistic performance falls too short for my taste.
The 7/08 and.243 are much more civilized and likable for my uses.
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Easiest cartridge to get to shoot well I have ever dealt with.
John Don't own one never did but Hondo is right on the money with my experiences.Have been loadin it for several of my huntin pards for years and never have seen any cartridge digest whatever you feed it consistently without being finicky.I've never been much for 30 cal in anything and indeed the 7/08 is a great choice but if I was going to build a lighter 30 it would be the 308...Thinking it should be way more popular especially with the new boolits available!!
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I tried to like it, guess I just don't. No good reason either, but would like a rifle in 300 savage someday if that makes any sense. ?? Mr. Bass, You ever lay Your hands on a clean 99F and I promise Your gonna git bit, I did. Gunner Yup, so did I! 
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I like lots of rounds but the lil 308 is just good at what it does and does it well its the tuff to beat lil rifle cartridge..
broken bones broken heart stripped down an torn apart a lil rust but Im still runnin countin miles countin tears twisted roads and shiftin gears year after year its all or nothin Im not home and Im not lost just holdin on 2 what I got...God and Guns
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Not a fan of the .308, same with the 30-06. Ditto on rifles. I am not a fan of any of the .30's or 7mm's. They get the job done nicely but they are not for me. In handguns it is a different story. I have a .30-06 Encore that I am pretty excited about.
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308 does 90+% of an 06 with half the recoil whats not too like ? ' That 100% of '06 "performance" is easy to pass on..............(grin)
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Easiest cartridge to get to shoot well I have ever dealt with.
John Don't own one never did but Hondo is right on the money with my experiences.Have been loadin it for several of my huntin pards for years and never have seen any cartridge digest whatever you feed it consistently without being finicky.I've never been much for 30 cal in anything and indeed the 7/08 is a great choice but if I was going to build a lighter 30 it would be the 308...Thinking it should be way more popular especially with the new boolits available!! In fairness,I shoot a few chamberings and I couldn't cite a single one that was "finicky". Nothing redeeming in the 308 there,nor in the Deuce...as is often regurgitated.....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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308 does 80% of an 06 with the same recoil, what's too like? Fixed that....
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Thanks for the posts.Lot more that dislike than I'd thought.
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For me,the 308's greatest strength is in a Krunchenticker being fed some MilSurp Ball,for giggles. But that is wearing thin too,given the cost/availability of same.
If I'm going to reload something good,it's tough to get giddy about the 308...because it's so easily trumped...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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It's the one round I've no clue about.Owned a semi auto Remmy for about 5 minutes.Thats it..But do love her offspring.Except the 338 Fed.
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As much as I like the .308 I like the .260 better.
Specially if its AI"d
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Here is some information dealing with the .308 that I had 'saved' from somewhere.
I assume the information is correct, and it shows that the .308 can hang in there with both the .270 and .30-06;
"The .308 Winchester packs a lot of punch into that short action cartridge. Compared side by side with either the 30-06 or the .270 Winchester, the .308 holds its own.
Using ballistics charts from Remington.com with their fine Core-Lokt bullet in 150 grain in the .308 and 30-06 and 130 grain in the .270, here are some numbers.
Each of the three carries 1000 foot pounds of energy past 400 yards. At the same 400 yards, with a 200 yard zero, the .270 Winchester shows bullet drop of 20.9 inches, the 30-06 shows a bullet drop of 24.4 inches, and the .308 Winchester shows a bullet drop of 26.2 inches.
With just over 5 inches of difference at a range that most deer hunters will never shoot (and probably shouldn't) the .308 shows that it can hang with the big two at long range."
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I'd erase that file and delete that Post both,if only in the interest of selfrespect...................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Oldfenderguy, something I've thought about alot is my nosler manual lists the 308 win with a 165 and RL-15 at a max loading and velocity of 2820 fps. My cherished 30-06's and their pet load of 57 gr. IMR 4350 has a MV of 2832 which is only 12 fps faster. Something else for those of you to think about too . I know it drives me crazy to think that it is that much on the heels of the 06!!!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Oldfenderguy, something I've thought about alot is my nosler manual lists the 308 with a 165 and RL-15 at a max loading and velocity of 2820 fps. My cherished 30-06's and their pet load of 57 gr. IMR 4350 has a MV of 2832 which is only 12 fps faster. Something else for those of you to think about too . I know it drives me crazy to think that it is that much on the heels of the 06!!!! I just checked my "Nosler #1 Reloading Manual" from 1976 and even it shows only a 42 FPS difference in maximum loads between the 165 GR 308 and 165 GR 30-06.. It's only when you get into the heavier bullets (180+ GR) that the old 30-06 starts to 'pull ahead'... The stubby little 308 cartridge just shouldn't perform that well.  ![[Linked Image]](http://dogsdoom.com/PI/nosler-1976.jpg)
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I'm still using the #4. Maybe we should both think about getting the newer version
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Not a hater, just never had any interest in it.
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some people have a hard time seeing the light......pretty dark in alaska and the swap i guess
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