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What the lowest estimated impact velocity you have seen on an animal? And how did the bullet perform? Thanks My son shot a big mule deer buck a few years ago at just over 400 yds with the 155s in a 308. Two good hits. One through the rib cage, quarter sized exit. Hit a rib. Second exited through the lower shoulder. Exit about the same size. Not sure the velocity at that point. We have killed allot of critters with this bullet, elk, deer, wolves , coyotes. They are definitely thicker jacketed than the Berger, but they kill really well. I shot a wolf at 300 yds through the rib cage. That left an exit about the size of a 50 cent piece. That seems to e the norm. I haven't shot critters with it at 500 or 600 yds , but I know Pat has, maybe he will chime in. He shoots alot of them. Only about 12 or so critters last 2 years but always the exact same outcome. Whitetail, mule deer and 1 big hog. 6.5 creed 139 Scenar at 2870fps. All 1.5-2” clean exits. By clean I mean u could almost drop a golf ball into the hole. I have FULL confidence in this bullet. So much I’m now developing a load for the 180’s in the 7mag at 2950fps. I’m hoping it performs the same! Roy My son shot a big mule deer buck a few years ago at just over 400 yds with the 155s in a 308. Two good hits. One through the rib cage, quarter sized exit. Hit a rib. Second exited through the lower shoulder. Exit about the same size. Not sure the velocity at that point. We have killed allot of critters with this bullet, elk, deer, wolves , coyotes. They are definitely thicker jacketed than the Berger, but they kill really well. I shot a wolf at 300 yds through the rib cage. That left an exit about the size of a 50 cent piece. That seems to e the norm. I haven't shot critters with it at 500 or 600 yds , but I know Pat has, maybe he will chime in. He shoots alot of them. Only about 12 or so critters last 2 years but always the exact same outcome. Whitetail, mule deer and 1 big hog. 6.5 creed 139 Scenar at 2870fps. All 1.5-2” clean exits. By clean I mean u could almost drop a golf ball into the hole. I have FULL confidence in this bullet. So much I’m now developing a load for the 180’s in the 7mag at 2950fps. I’m hoping it performs the same! Roy
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I've killed two antelope with the 108's (6.5), 3 antelope with the 123, and one large mule deer with a 123. Going to try the 139's in my 264 this year.
My only complaint with the scenar is if you hit them in the shoulder, its like hitting them with an RPG. Shrapnel everywhere, but they sure die quick.
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6.5 creed 139 Scenar at 2870fps.
Roy How are you achieving this velocity? Morning Brad. 48gr of RL26 CCI 200’s Starline LRP brass. Roy
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Ended up selling my my 308 so I have approx 290 155 scenars. Two unopened boxes and I had just opened my third box a week ago. I can get an exact count for anyone that is interested in buying them
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The 123s at 2940 are shooting really well out of my 6.5 Creedmoor. Anybody tried them on game yet?
Edited to add that after posting this, I reviewed the entire thread and found several favorable outcomes with the 123. Guess I’ll give them a go.
John
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Ended up selling my my 308 so I have approx 290 155 scenars. Two unopened boxes and I had just opened my third box a week ago. I can get an exact count for anyone that is interested in buying them PM Sent. Cheers, Rex
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The 123s at 2940 are shooting really well out of my 6.5 Creedmoor. Anybody tried them on game yet?
Edited to add that after posting this, I reviewed the entire thread and found several favorable outcomes with the 123. Guess I’ll give them a go.
John What your load
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Does anyone use the factory loaded Lapua ammunition or is everything hand loaded?
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Hondo64, I've used the 123s going around 3050fps on deer.
Very accurate, flat shooting and great penetration - just like the 139s.
100% one-shot kills so far, but I've not used them on anything bigger than Mule Deer/Red Deer sized animals.
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Does anyone use the factory loaded Lapua ammunition or is everything hand loaded? I've had good luck with the Berger 260 Rem loads with the 136gr Scenar. They have since been discontinued... 
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Bumping this thread for this season. Anyone have experience w/ the 136gr Scenar L vs the 139 Scenar? My 6.5 CM loves the 136, and I'm thinking about using it for deer and antelope.
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Bumping this thread for this season. Anyone have experience w/ the 136gr Scenar L vs the 139 Scenar? My 6.5 CM loves the 136, and I'm thinking about using it for deer and antelope. Though not a huge sample size, but I've shot pronghorn with both. Nothing I observed would lead me to believe there was a difference.
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Bumping this thread for this season. Anyone have experience w/ the 136gr Scenar L vs the 139 Scenar? My 6.5 CM loves the 136, and I'm thinking about using it for deer and antelope. Though not a huge sample size, but I've shot pronghorn with both. Nothing I observed would lead me to believe there was a difference. I had asked that same question, got the same answer. That’s what I’ve loaded in my Creed. It also likes the 123 Scenar. DF
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Thanks, guys. I'd noted that Pat used the 139 with great success, but wasn't sure if the 136L had any significant difference in design.
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Thanks, guys. I'd noted that Pat used the 139 with great success, but wasn't sure if the 136L had any significant difference in design. Maybe some difference in BC, evidently not much, if any, with terminal performance. DF
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Just smoked another lope with a 108 out of a 6.5 creed. Another one shot kill. Quartering away. No exit. 200 yards.
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Does anyone use the factory loaded Lapua ammunition or is everything hand loaded? I bought two 50-round boxes of factory loaded 308 155s a couple of years ago. They had a great sale price and in my mind provided me with inexpensive Lapua brass. I loaded them into my Bergara Premier Mountain rifle and that particular combination of rifle and ammo is the most accurate I have ever used. I have attempted to duplicate those factory loads, as best I could, using my chronograph. I've come very close and am quite satisfied with my results.
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