|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 18,033
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 18,033 |
My wife's uncle hunted deer with one for about 20 years. 'Shot one heck of a pile of whitetails with that little gun. Minute of deer accuracy was no problem in the Minnesota Northwoods where shots were usually well within 100 yards.
molɔ̀ːn labé skýla
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810 |
I bought a Ruger 44 Magnum Deerslayer International (Mannlicher stock) around 1980. Nice rifle, I wish I still had it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,689
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,689 |
I have a chance to pick up a ruger 44 carbine,pretty reasonable. Worth having,or no? frankly, a Marlin 1894 in .44 mag is a far superior rifle. Costs less, is much more accurate, does not have the jamming/feeding problems of a Ruger, and just plain looks better.
Sam......
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411 |
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,798
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,798 |
Owned one probably 25 yrs. ago. Nice little piece. Very accurate with the receiver sight that was on it. Never jammed. Zero issues. Killed a couple of wild hogs with it. Ended up selling it, and many times I wish I had it back, but not at the ridiculous prices they are asking for them, now. Gotta disagree with Mannlicher. I just sold a Marlin 1894, 44 mag, back in Dec. It was basically a POS, accuracy wise, and my old ruger would have shot rings around it.
maddog
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,689
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,689 |
obviously our experience with the same guns varies. Of course, I am correct. One point does seem worth mentioning. I am not sure of the twist rate on the Ruger, but the Marlin is 1:38. That twist will not really stabilize a bullet heavier than 270 grains. Maybe the Ruger has a different twist. I don't know what weight bullet maddog was using. I use a 270 grain Speer Gold Dot SP, and get accuracy at 75 yards that hovers +/- an inch. At 50 yard, it will cut clover leaf patterns.
Last edited by Mannlicher; 03/17/11.
Sam......
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,798
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 6,798 |
Sam, I shot both factory and handloads thru mine. 240 gr. jkted softs, 270 gr. gold dots, 225 gr. Hornady FTX and Hornady 240 gr. XTPs. Accuracy out to 50 yds., was decent 1-1 1/2". But once you got out to 70 yds. and beyond, it would open way up. So I sold it. Guess we just agree to disagree... maddog
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 10,364
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 10,364 |
I have a chance to pick up a ruger 44 carbine,pretty reasonable. Worth having,or no? I'll take it if you decide to pass. Used to have one, sorry I let it go.
www.paracay.comIt's better to live rich than die rich. Live simply so that I may simply live large.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,794
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,794 |
I've got the Marlin .44 mag carbine as well. Mine is extremely accurate. I have a 4x Leupy on it and have no problem shooting clay birds at 200 yards. I even shoot it a lot at 300 yards. It drops a little, but still hits where I point it. I like the old Rugers, but will still take the Marlin. Flinch
Flinch Outdoor Gear broadhead extractor. The best device for pulling your head out.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,143
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,143 |
I have a Ruger 44 International, the mannlicher stocked version, with a Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5x20 in a Redfield turn-in mount. I think that it is a fine short range deer rifle. I generally shoot Remington 240 grain JSPs or JHPs. The downside is that Ruger 44 carbines have a reputation for jamming, particularly "stove-pipe" jams, so I would suggest, if possible, that your fire a couple of full magazines through the rifle before you buy it.
I think that my mannlicher stocks Ruger is easily more eye pleaseing than any Marlin lever gun that I've seen, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
JEff
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,369
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,369 |
That Bisley Vaquero a 44 mag too?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,689
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 67,689 |
That Bisley Vaquero a 44 mag too? yep. Thats the hunting trio I take most of the time. The knife is a Randall #11.
Sam......
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,369
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 24,369 |
Nice trio.
EDit: I know I would prefer the Marlin too, not that Ruger carbine isn't a good gun (never shot one). Didn't care much for a 44 Mag SA until I picked up a Bisley Vaquero, I really like it.
Last edited by 700LH; 03/17/11.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,359
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,359 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,880
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,880 |
If the original Ruger .44, can't recommend for rough hunting. Bought two for bear w/hounds. Always having problems with them. Dumped one, kept the other for extra loaner. 2nd got run over by truck back in the day. Never bothered to fix it. Both were very finicky about feeding ammo from the magazine.
Compact little carbine for rough country and easy carry, but too many issues of this and that crop up for rough hunting.
'94's much better choice for hunting.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,598
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,598 |
Five different Ruger 44 carbines:
Semi-auto: looks like 10/22
Semi-auto: looks like Mini-14
Lever action
Bolt action
Single shot
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,527
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,527 |
I wonder sometimes about this place. The first part of the thread is all complimentary,then it becomes a bash Ruger 44 mags...I have one of the older ones, had it for years now. I never had a glitch with ammo "designed" for it, including reloads. You want to try to feed nose heavy 270/300 grain loads through it,well,it wasn't designed for that. In any event, I find mine very accurate, it fact it will shoot circles around my Mini-14 which is a waste of ammo. I will be selling mine soon as I am kicking the hell out of getting to be 70yo. I just don't use the gun. It would be better with someone that will actually use it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,081
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,081 |
remember when it first came out and they had the ads with the guy who shot a gorilla with one? can you imagine the screaming if you tried that now?
never owned one, but had a buddy who had one of the old ones and liked it for woods deer in La. They completely redesigned it when it was reintroduced and I've not had any experience with them. always thought they were cool. That's funny! I read once about about hunting in Africa and how hunters are often encouraged to shoot all the baboons they can. The writer said some hunters can't shoot shoot the baboons because baboons are so much like people. He said other hunters couldn't shoot enough......because baboons are so much like people! Expat
"There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,081
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,081 |
I bought a brand spankin' new one from Fred Baker Firearms in Oklahoma City when I turned 18...that was in '79. It was a cool gun. Well made, solid, functioned well, fun. Sadly, it was stolen from me in Tyler, Texas back in 1990. Wish I had it still. Frickin' Texans!
"There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,091
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,091 |
Some years back used to hunt elk with a friend who used a Ruger .44 carbine. He used the Norma ammo that had a mild steel jacket. It was no benchrest rifle. He used to sight it in by shooting at rocks, stumps, etc.. He would regularly get his elk. I recall him filling his cow tag one year using the Ruger. One shot at about 50 yds. Completed penetration. Does Norma still market that ammo?
Happy Trails! NRA Life Member
|
|
|
|
451 members (10gaugemag, 160user, 10Glocks, 12344mag, 17CalFan, 10ring1, 36 invisible),
2,264
guests, and
1,030
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,285
Posts18,467,831
Members73,928
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|