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Re: Number of Barrel Groves Big Stick #5065546 03/20/11
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming	Originally Posted by Big Stick You mean Imaginary................ Nope John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

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Re: Number of Barrel Groves JohnBurns #5065573 03/20/11
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska	Lotsa 3-grooved 8" in these parts,whistling wares at 3500fps,less any "issue". Thus the penchant to procure more of same................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Number of Barrel Groves Big Stick #5065587 03/20/11
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Montana T toad Campfire Tracker
toad Campfire Tracker T Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Montana	142 SMKs hold up to 3 groove/8" twist/3250 just fine for steel or paper 140 Amaxes also survive the trip at like speeds and kill stuff. 130 SS IIs hold up to 3 grooves @ 3300 and also kill stuff 130 Barnes TSX hold up to anything Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves toad #5065598 03/20/11
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska	You boys is gonna talk me into a 3-groover yet....................(grin) Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Number of Barrel Groves Big Stick #5065636 03/20/11
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Montana T toad Campfire Tracker
toad Campfire Tracker T Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Montana	it's a crap shoot according to the innernet Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.

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Re: Number of Barrel Groves toad #5065646 03/20/11
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming	Seems a strange lack of fellows using the 3s with the j4 VLDs? Anybody???? John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves JohnBurns #5065659 03/20/11
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska	Lotsa Berger's being flung via 3-grooves,by folks who actually shoot. Which of course skews things................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Number of Barrel Groves JohnBurns #5065663 03/20/11
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Montana T toad Campfire Tracker
toad Campfire Tracker T Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,766 Montana	i'll try to remember to grab a box next time i order stuff... Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves Big Stick #5065665 03/20/11
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming	Who?? John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves JohnBurns #5065714 03/20/11
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Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska	Them with a clue,which puts you well shy of the ranks. But it's funny. Hell...I even hear they's sweet in a 257Wby............ Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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Re: Number of Barrel Groves toad #5065830 03/20/11
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JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming	Originally Posted by toad i'll try to remember to grab a box next time i order stuff... Would love to hear your personal experiences as mine have been less than spectacular. I don�t have anything against the 3 groove on a personal level just that I have seen problems with them with the VLDs and have had great luck with 5 an 6 grooves with the VLD. Seems to be a lack of guys who like 3s and also shoot the VLDs. Lil Fish excluded. Oh wait he doesn't shoot VLDs so never mind. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves JohnBurns #5065840 03/20/11
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska	Your Imagination is acting up. Again.................. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Number of Barrel Groves rockchuck828 #5065842 03/20/11
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,528 Gate, OK Badley OP Campfire Regular
OP Badley Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,528 Gate, OK	Originally Posted by rockchuck828 Originally Posted by Badley Thanks for the info and confidence boost in my 3 groove choice. I am missing something, what would give you a confidence boost in a 3 groove? This bit of information was helpful. Im not planning on pushing the envelope on fps. Originally Posted by rockchuck828 Since you are only looking to shoot "7mm 168gr berger's at 3000 fps in a 1-9 twist" you will be fine, the problem would most likely start if you were trying to push the 180 gr berger down a 1-8" twist at 3200fps (more velocity and longer bearing surface). Last edited by Badley; 03/20/11.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves JohnBurns #5065859 03/20/11
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OP Badley Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,528 Gate, OK	Mr. Burns, Have you found the 3 grove lacking with the 168's around 3000 fps? I was under the impression you favored the 180's. I may try those someday, but will not be near aproaching the 3200fps window, more likely the 2800fps area. You input is appreciated.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves Badley #5065901 03/20/11
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JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming	Originally Posted by Badley Mr. Burns, Have you found the 3 grove lacking with the 168's around 3000 fps? I was under the impression you favored the 180's. I may try those someday, but will not be near aproaching the 3200fps window, more likely the 2800fps area. You input is appreciated. Bradley, I have only worked with 2 3 groove barrels. One was a 264 Win Mag and we run 140gr VLDs at 3250fps. This barrel shot OK (sub 1/2 MOA) but was not really a great gun and then it started missing paper at 100yds at the 150 rnd point. I actually got a full profile bullet hole (Keyhole) at 100yds with this barrel. I also have messed with a 3 groove 243 Win and it would not shoot VLDs after 200rnd it would still shoot other 105s and 107s but not the VLDs with the J4 jackets. I am personally done working with the 3 grooves because there seems to be no advantage and there is a very distinct disadvantage if you want to shoot the best LR bullets available. I don�t think there is any barrel maker that will guarantee their 3 groove will actually out shoot their 5 or 6 groove so for me why keep messing with something that has never worked as well as the 5 or 6 groove. I am not recommending a particular manufacturer as I think everyone who offers 3s will also do a 6 so why not choose the one that always works with all bullets? John John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves JohnBurns #5066221 03/20/11
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,484 Northern Mi. BradArnett Campfire Regular
BradArnett Campfire Regular Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,484 Northern Mi.	I'll let you guys know how the 3 groove/vld's work for me. My 25-06AI is a 3 groove and I'm going to run 115VLD's in it. I'll likely be in the 3300fps range so I'll be sure and keep track as to when/if they start coming apart.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves BradArnett #5066224 03/20/11
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JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming	Originally Posted by BradArnett I'll let you guys know how the 3 groove/vld's work for me. My 25-06AI is a 3 groove and I'm going to run 115VLD's in it. I'll likely be in the 3300fps range so I'll be sure and keep track as to when/if they start coming apart. thanks Brad, I really hope it works for you. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves BradArnett #5066226 03/20/11
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,355 Paradise,Alaska	3-groove 223AI's,22-250AI's,243AI's,6-06AI's,25-06AI's,257Wby's,280AI's,7Remmies,7Whizzums abound throughout The Gang. If there was sumptin' better,I'd be driving it............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: Number of Barrel Groves Big Stick #5066298 03/20/11
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,070 Wyoming	Originally Posted by Big Stick 3-groove 223AI's,22-250AI's,243AI's,6-06AI's,25-06AI's,257Wby's,280AI's,7Remmies,7Whizzums abound throughout The Gang. If there was sumptin' better,I'd be driving it............... I suspect you are doing the best you can right now. Bravo John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: Number of Barrel Groves JohnBurns #5066683 03/21/11
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,065 IN H hangunnr Campfire Regular
hangunnr Campfire Regular H Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,065 IN	Originally Posted by JohnBurns Would love to hear your personal experiences as mine have been less than spectacular. Boy, if that don't say it all. Thanks for the chuckle... hangunnr

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