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My apologies to kutenay, it was Chuck that I should have been referring to.



Who are these individuals? Have they taken action against Ross and PGW? Again, I would like to know to prevent dealing with anyone who might be dishonest. Are you saying that people have commissioned work from PGW and never received it? Did PGW take someone's money and never deliver? Did these bilked customers take any action? Surely a lawsuit or criminal court action would be taken! Missing parts from actions sound like defective products that would likely result in civil action. Please do tell as I do not wish to buy a rifle missing valuable parts. There must be some records of such incidents. How did such a company win the contract to replace the C3?

Please, more details!

I've told you everything you need to know.

Chuck

HMMM, why do you think someone with such a contract would treat the rest of their insignificant, lowlife, common customers like dirt. The answere seems pretty clear to me.

Chuck

a friend of mine (and I will pm you his contact info if you want it) paid for a timberwolf and was given a delivery date.

After well over a year of being lied to, and told 'no refund, wait for your action", he had a lawyer send a demand letter of sorts, whereupon he got his refund. He is still out of pocket the loss he took on re-selling the McMillan he bought for the Timberwolf, along with the lawyers fees, and a bunch of wasted time.

"Top Gunsmith"

What is required to qualify? Does the "gunsmith" have to make the barrel or use a barrel blank? Does he have to make the action? Are we talking only wood stocks? Obviously he would have to be a superb stockmaker.... that lets out a lot of "gunsmiths". What about engraving? Does he have to be able to do high quality engraving? That lets out 99 percent of them. What about an absolutely superb stockmaker who also engraves but does not machine and fit and chamber the barrel to the action? Is he out of the running?

What is the definition of a "top gunsmith"?

Stonewall, where was "Guncraft" located?
In TO?
I believe that was the name of George Pohl's company.
Cat

THERE IS ONE THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY IN REGARDS TO ALL OF THIS BULLSHIT THAT IS BEING SAID ABOUT GUNSMITHS GOOD OR BAD IN CANADA. I FIND IT SICKENING THAT UP HERE IN CANADA ALL WE EVER DO IS BITCH BITCH BITCH! I HAVE YET TO JOIN A FORUM (I BELIEVE THIS IS A CANADIAN FORUM BY THE LOOKS OF THE THREAD) WHERE THERE IS NOT ONE BIT OF BITCHING ABOUT GUNSMITHS UP HERE IN CANADA. TAKE A LOOK AT BR CENTRAL PEOPLE. THERE IS NO DEGRADING A SMITH OF ANY SORT BY NAME. IT IS JUST SICKENING TO SEE. I SEE ALL THIS PUTTING DOWN AND NO ONE HAS THE DECENCY TO SIGN THERE TRUE NAME TO THE RESPONSES. BUNCH OF COWARDS. I JUST HAD MY FIRST GUN EVER DONE BY A GUNSMITH. THAT SMITH IS DENNIS SORENSEN. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY OF HIS WORK OR MET HIM IN PERSON. I JUST WENT ON REFERENCES AND MANY AT THAT. AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE NOT YET SEEN THE GUN. IT IS ON ITS WAY BACK AS WE SPEAK. LISTENING TO THE BS FROM ALL THE SLANDERING MAKES IT PRETTY TOUGH FOR SOMEONE NEW IN GETTING A GUN BUILT. I HAVE YET TO HEAR OF ANYONE THAT WAS HAPPY WITH THE SAME GUNSMITH. I HAVE YET TO HEAR OF ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH ONE ANOTHER ABOUT OUR SUPPOSEDLY GREAT CANADIAN BARREL MAKERS. I HAVE HEARD IT ALL WHEN TRYING TO DECIDE WHO WAS GOING TO TOUCH MY GUN. I AM 39 AND THIS IS MY FIRST GUNSMITHED GUN. I AM NOT A KNOW IT ALL OR PRETEND TO BE ONE. THERE IS ONE THING THAT I DO KNOW AND THAT IS IF YOUR GOING TO PUT SOMEONE DOWN PUT UP OR SHUT UP. AND YES I WILL GLADLY SIGN MY NAME. IF YOUR NOT HAP[PY WITH ME I AM IN THE PHONE BOOK. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

CALVIN YANCHYCKI
BRANDON,MANITOBA

Who pissed in your Corn Flakes? The truth sucks sometimes. Deal with it. And what part of my name are you having difficulty discifering. Is it the Chuck or the Nelson.

Chuck

This is a discussion of gunsmiths, not a gripe session of how bad they are.
I have been a member of benchrest central for some time, and yes, I have seen some bad reports on work there, also.
but the commentary is warranted.
I have also discussed things with Dennis Sorrenson, and his reputation precedes him in many circles.
I belive, if you look at the threads, you will find more than a faie assesment of our 'smiths here.

I personnaly would not go Stateside, nopt because it is a bit difficult sometimes, but because I feel that we have more than competant people in Canada.

I have rifles built by Cunningham, Mcphee, Smith, and others, and they are to a weapon super accurate, with no less than 4 with Canadian made barrels.
I don't know what made you so anggry, but maybe step back and look at things from a "half full" attitude rather than "half empty"?
Just an observation.
Oh, and BTW did you have the caps lock on accidently, or were you intentionally yelling at someone?
cat

WELL IF THERE ARE SO MANY UP HERE IN CANADA THAT ARE EDUCATED ENOUGH TO CUT DOWN INDIVIDUALS WHY ARE THEY NOT IN THE BUSINESS? OR IS THIS THERE WAY OF TRYING TO GET THE BUSINESS THAT THEY UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT HAVE? I, LIKE IAMANOLDGOAT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITON IS OF A "TOP GUNSMITH"? I THINK IAMANOLDGOAT HAS ASKESD A LOT OF VALID QUESTIONS. ANYONE CARE TO DEFINE TOP GUNSMITH FOR ME. I CAN SAY ONE THING THAT JUDGING A PERSONS CHARACTER USUALLY DOES NOT IDENTIFY A GOOD FROM A BAD GUNSMITH. I BELIEVE ALL TRADES PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD AND BAD DAY IN REGARDS TO CHARACTER. I WILL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT I WAS NOT A TRADESPERSON THAT A CUSTOMER WANTED TO BE AROUND TODAY. IT WAS 29 CELCIUS WITH ABOUT 90% HUMIDITY TODAY. IF I WERE NOT KNOWN PEOPLE WOULD WONDER WHO PISSED IN MY "CORN FLAKES". IT SUCKS WHEN WE ARE ON THE RECEIVING END OF A BAD DAY BUT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT IN A CIVIL MANNNER IN TRYING TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF UNFORTUNATE SITUATIONS CAN BE RESOLVED QUITE EASILY BUT THIS ALL HANGS ON HOW ONE IS APPROACHED. YOU APPROACH ME LIKE A RAGING LUNATIC I WILL RESPOND LIKE A RAGING LUNATIC. IN ESSENCE A LOT OF THESE UNFORTUNATE EVENTS COULD POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN RESOLVED IN A CIVIL MANNER. THIS IS ALL IN REGARDS TO INDIVIDUALS HAVING SUBSTANARD QUALITY FROM A SO CALLED TOP GUNSMITH.

CALVIN YANCHYCKI
BRANDON, MANITOBA

Hello Guys and Gals,

I am new to these forums and bumped across this topic in search of a canadian gunsmith, a little about myself.
I am from Saskatchewan, Canada and i am an avid big game hunter. I shoot a 270 and have just begun bowhunting as well to catch the early season bucks.

Anyhow back on topic..i am reading alot about these gunsmiths and your opinions but noone is leaving contact information for these gunsmiths, names are ok but not what i need.

Cool forums so far but only time will tell.

Thanks

CATINTHEHAT THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT. YOU SAY IT IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT SMITHS BUT I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF DEGRADING COMMENTS. LIKE I SAID EARLIER THIS HAS BEEN MY FIRST CUSTOM JOB. WHO AM I SUPPOSED TO TRUST WHEN IT COMES TIME TO GETTING THE WORK DONE? I DID SOME RESEARCH AND GAVE SOMEONE A TRY. THIS SOMEONE NOW APPEARS TO BE SOMEONE THAT A FEW PEOPLE FEEL HE IS NOT WORTHY. YET I HAVE HEARD MORE GOOD THAN BAD. HE HAS BEEN VERY ACCOMODATING AND I FEEL HAS GONE THE EXTRA MILE TO FULFILL MY WISHES. IF YOU HAVE HAD SOME BAD
SITUATIONS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME PRIVATELY SO I MAY HAVE A CHANCE TO POSSIBLY SEE WHAT YOU MEAN.

You might want to try approaching those of us on this forum who have come to know each other over a considerable period of time and who respect each other's opinions with just a tad more courtesy. You are new to this forum and obviously have very little comprehension of the etiquette that is practiced here, as your loud, capitalized ranting demonstrates.

You now have ordered your first custom rifle, quite frankly, I have been at this for longer than you have been alive, so, may I politely suggest that you pipe down, grow up and behave yourself. There are men here who have, as I do, very sound reasons for not publishing their full names/addresses and these reasons are none of your bloody business.

You sound like one of the CGN ranters who thinks that you will impress someone by aggressive yelling; I should tell you that this forum is not quite the same as CGN and your tactics do you no credit, so, calm down and try to learn something.

Potlicker,Corlane Sports,Dawson Creek B.C. And take the Caps Off.

Kutenay, not to worry about me being one of those CGNr's who is trying to impress by ranting and raving. I have also voiced my concerns there as well in regards to some of the threads that I have seen there and have not been to impressed with. Not to fret, I get the same responses there. But because we live in a free North America were are able to all voice our opinions. I will be the first to admit that I will never know as much as you have forgotten or any other person in the shooting industry. Just as you will never know about my trade. If you are true to what you say. I will leave it at that. But I am still waiting for the answer to the question of what makes a "Top Gunsmith"? How am I to know who to trust and not trust? If somone can give me a list of the winners of the Canadian BR champions over the years and who smithed there guns and what the components were, I might have a clue as who I might be able to trust.


Calvin Yanchycki
Brandon, Manitoba

Let's not throw [bleep] at each other too much here. I've not had bad experience with PGW but admittedly I have not ordered a rifle from them. They've treated me well whenever I've dealt with them.

Let's not hold ourselves too high and mighty in comparison to other boards on the internet. I can't see how this board is any better than CGN, so let's not belittle others just to make ourselves feel important.

Potlicker, please take off your caps lock. It's considered shouting and is quite rude. And if you're shouting, please stop. No one wants to be shouted at and, I suspect, it will not be tolerated.

Now back on topic... are there any good Canadian stockmakers? I'm curious about walnut stocks.

Potlicker

I think perhaps you have given one mans opinion about one gunsmith too much importance. After reading all the posts I see kutenay was the only person saying he was not impressed with Sorenson .... and reading carefully you can tell there are very few gunsmiths who impress him... and after reading all his posts I have the feeling he is very opinionated. That's okay too... everyone has the right to their opinion.

Opinions are a bit like a**holes - everyone has one.

Well, this is where this thread becomes a waste of time as the new members demonstrate their expertise.....

Potlicker,
I have work done by both Ron Smith and Bevan King. I cannot complain about the quality or service of either. In fact, I recently took possession of a King barrel which was built and tapered as per my request and arrived literally within days.

If you frequent this forum any length of time you will notice several gunsmiths who are almost always respected. Other forums you may wish to check out are CanadianGunNutz, and gunshop.com if you are into shotguns. With a bit of research you can learn a lot of info about guns, gunsmiths, reputations, and which opinions should be valued.

Because, unless you spend a lot of time posting one pone particular web site, you have no idea what you're talking about, right? And if you have 5000 posts on Shotgun World and come here does your knowledge base revert to zero with your post count?

Funny how, for some people, post count seems to equal experience in the shooting and firearms community. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />