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The range isn't the issue, its the impact fan zone thats a HUGE safety issue. I have a bulldozed berm on our property line... but should one ever stray....lucky there isnt' much there save a hay barn and cattle mostly.
We have 100 acres, I can get 1000 out of that the way it sits. And that range could be... guessing, about 500 yards wide too...
From surveying my old boss always said, acre is 208x208 basically.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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That's why I like living here in so. Idaho. I can drive 7 miles to BLM land, set up a bench, and shoot 40 miles across BLM land to the NV border. Across the border, there's a whole lot more of it. It's not as handy as shooting out the back door, but it's very cheap.
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Looking to buy enough acreage to build a 800 yard range. Can someone tell me approximately how many acres in a straight line I would have to have to get to this distance? This will also settle an argument. Thanks. Order a copy of "The NRA Range Manual",......it's ALL there, and the veracity is such that it IS the Manual Adopted by Arizona Dept. of Game and Fish for ALL State and Private Commercial Ranges. Do you know how to spell "Impact Area"? What it REALLY means? Safe "10* FIRE FANS" ? Before anybody goes all 'Typical Crossfire" I've BUILT more then a couple,....and none of it gets easier. The "Length" of a 800 yd range may well be 5-10 times more then the ACTUAL course,..... Question A. .........What calibers (800 yd calls out LARGE and fast) Question B. ........'Fire fans' ,.....vertical, horizontal, lateral, and tangental. GTC
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To all that replied. Thanks. I think I got it now. I think.
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If you have a specific area you are looking at, this site will measure acreage you outline using Google maps and satellite views. http://acme.com/planimeter/At least in my area, Google maps now shows property lines in rural areas. You can trace the outline of a property and see the acreage. Bruce
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That's why I like living here in so. Idaho. I can drive 7 miles to BLM land, set up a bench, and shoot 40 miles across BLM land to the NV border. Across the border, there's a whole lot more of it. It's not as handy as shooting out the back door, but it's very cheap. Maybe a deserted spagehtti factory? Or a Montana Dental Floss farm? LOL sorry I wish I had 800 yds to play on again.
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If you have a specific area you are looking at, this site will measure acreage you outline using Google maps and satellite views. http://acme.com/planimeter/At least in my area, Google maps now shows property lines in rural areas. You can trace the outline of a property and see the acreage. Bruce That's a good site. Thanks for posting.
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800 yds is roughly 1/2 mile (880 yds to be exact). If the land is surveyed in townships and sections, that's 1/2 way across a section. Sections of ground vary in size. They are not an exact one mile by one mile. miles
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Looking to buy enough acreage to build a 800 yard range. Can someone tell me approximately how many acres in a straight line I would have to have to get to this distance? This will also settle an argument. Thanks. Order a copy of "The NRA Range Manual",......it's ALL there, and the veracity is such that it IS the Manual Adopted by Arizona Dept. of Game and Fish for ALL State and Private Commercial Ranges. Do you know how to spell "Impact Area"? What it REALLY means? Safe "10* FIRE FANS" ? Before anybody goes all 'Typical Crossfire" I've BUILT more then a couple,....and none of it gets easier. The "Length" of a 800 yd range may well be 5-10 times more then the ACTUAL course,..... Question A. .........What calibers (800 yd calls out LARGE and fast) Question B. ........'Fire fans' ,.....vertical, horizontal, lateral, and tangental. GTC FIre fan or what I call impact zone is what kills it. If its private for your own use, IMHO there is a hair bit less issue, with a good impact berm, if its for others use or especially open to the public... you better cross Ts and dot I's..... And a guy here did an idiot thing and built a 1000 yard one wiht a county road RIGHT next to it, regardless of suggestions not to.... I'd say at some point it'll be closed.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Some of the Garmin GPS offer an area function; basically you walk the boundries and once your back at the start, the GPS calculates the enclosed acreage..
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800 yds is roughly 1/2 mile (880 yds to be exact). If the land is surveyed in townships and sections, that's 1/2 way across a section. Sections of ground vary in size. They are not an exact one mile by one mile. miles Not so in the flat lands. A section of ground means exactly that. 1 Square mile. 640 ac.
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Not so in the flat lands. Pretty flat here. We raise lots of rice. What do they do about the problem of putting a square piece of property on a round surface, where you live? I have surveyed a long time and things aren't always what they are supposed to be. miles
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One ONE acre you could have a range over 14,500 yards long ....if it was one inch wide. Perfect!!! Oh yeah!
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One ONE acre you could have a range over 14,500 yards long ....if it was one inch wide. Perfect!!! Oh yeah! Might run into issues on days with a cross wind though. 
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Not so in the flat lands.
A section of ground means exactly that. 1 Square mile. 640 ac.
Never seen a perfect section, and have seen lots of them. Flat, steep, rolling, brush, clear..... never seen a perfect one. In theory they are supposed to be 1 square mile and exactly 640 ac. but that is only theory..... There is only two reasons that a section would be perfect, someone [bleep] up or someone is lying.
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An 800-yard range requires more than 800 yards in a usable straight line.
You must add to that 800 yards from muzzle to target some more distance behind the muzzle and beyond the target. How much room depends on what you have to have in those two areas � shooting bench, back-stop, etc.
"Good enough" isn't.
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OK. One. A rod by a half mile. 40 yards for backstop and 40 yards to park and set up. if you are missing the target by more than 8.25 feet either way it may be time to shoot at shorter range, which this permits. ;-{>
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Not so in the flat lands.
A section of ground means exactly that. 1 Square mile. 640 ac.
Never seen a perfect section, and have seen lots of them. Flat, steep, rolling, brush, clear..... never seen a perfect one. In theory they are supposed to be 1 square mile and exactly 640 ac. but that is only theory..... There is only two reasons that a section would be perfect, someone [bleep] up or someone is lying. Don't know where you're from, but I think you'd be surprised. There's vast areas in Nebraska where the roads are all neatly and lovingly placed in one mile increments, both directions. Sure, there's oddities along the way, such as correction lines at county borders and where drainages cut through, but one mile by one mile "sections" of land are monotonously common. Between this and adjacent states there's literally millions of them.
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Southern Idaho is laid out the same way in the populated areas. There are corrections every so many townships to allow for earth curvature, of course.
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How wide do you want it?
An acre is 43,560 sf or so.
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