This comment is not in reference to any particular post in this thread. That being said, it appears to me that some here really do not care where the man was born. I have no idea where he was born and the truth is important to me. Bachman has lost credibility with me and would have been better served to keep her mouth shut.
�Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program." -- Milton Friedman
It would help if these folks ya'll are putting so much stock in had a little more credibility.
9/11 conspiracy theories
According to Corsi, "A video clip widely circulated on the Internet shows a test that pulverized an F-4 fighter on impact with a hardened target, providing evidence to answer 9/11 skeptics who question why so little identifiable airplane debris remained after the hijacked American Airlines Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon."[85] It has been reported that audio and a Youtube video has been circulating of Corsi's January 29, 2008 interview on conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' radio show.[86][87][88] In the interview Corsi discusses "the findings of Steven Jones, physicist and hero of the '9/11 Truth' movement who claims to have evidence that the World Trade Center towers collapsed due to explosives inside the building, not just the planes hitting them, during the attacks."[86] Corsi cites Jones' findings of microscopic forensic evidence which seemingly negates the U.S. government hypothesis that the aircraft's jet fuel fired heat, alone, was sufficiently hot enough to collapse the steel superstructure of the buildings. Obama's campaign has criticized Corsi for these claims.[6][7][89][90] Corsi has also appeared on INN World Report, a news program on the left-wing Free Speech TV, to advance his claims.
Tim Adam's,.. - not the most credible source wouldn't you say?
Adams describes himself as a Clinton primary supporter, who later voted for McCain in the 2008 general election. While a student at the University of Hawaii, he says he was working a temp position and came to know from his superiors at the local Honolulu elections office, part of the City Clerk�s office, that Barack Obama was not born in that city or county or anywhere in the State of Hawaii.
So. He's a eye witness who swore a affidavit. He's certainly not been proven incredible.It's no secret there is no documentary evidence or eyewitnesses to confirm Obama was born at any Hawaiian hospital, as stated. The Gov. has waffled as to what he saw and just lately settled his waffling by saying he is not permitted to disclose the nature or specifics of the birth certificate. This, of course, came after he first said he saw it, then changed his story to state he only saw some handwritten notations. Now, think of this, not one document or any witness to affirm his birth in any Hawaiian hospital. You have to suspend disbelief to buy into that one.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward
The problem with Tim Adams is there's no credible conservative(or otherwise)news source that takes him seriously. Do a search and find one if you can.
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34% of the voting country wants it produced and most of that 34% is comprised of the GOP/Tea-Party sources that better be taken seriously. The problem with Tim Adams could be the democrats of Hawaii. So far,nothing he's sworn to has been discredited. Link me to one valid,supportable discrediting of his affidavit. Hell trips, the damn Gov has even been caught in lies in regards this issue. I am glad you're starting to do a little research on your own rather than just spouting off without any support for your positions.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward
The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate � described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" � absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. [bleep] said she has personally inspected it � twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed [bleep]) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.
Before she would do so, [bleep] said, she wanted to inspect the files � and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
Whatever her strategic reason; to say that "if the president says it, I believe it" is a profoundly stupid statement to make. Especially given the number of proven lies that have already come from that socialist SOB.
" The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson.
The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate � described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" � absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. [bleep] said she has personally inspected it � twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed [bleep]) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.
Before she would do so, [bleep] said, she wanted to inspect the files � and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity.
Yes,....very credible.
I just had one of those,..."I see said the blind man",...moments.
Once because the reference Squidge cites seems to give evidence Obama is a US citizen and a second time because they have the stupid document and won't release it for some reason.
Now I got a damn headache from all this head shaking.
So far I've been given a Temp and 9/11 Truther as credible sources.
You know I'm skeptical to begin with, how do you expect those kinds of sources to give me pause?
I will admit I find it odd and pretty suspicious Obama won't release his college records.
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You ought to listen to Adam's radio interview and hear his responses to the HS you're hearing from the dems in Hawaii. He served in Korea or Storm, and was selected to this temp job as third in order of superiority. He left late August to finish college,as planned, which was paid for due to his service tenure in the military. You should listen to his radio interview. It is rather thorough and he comes across as most credible.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward
Come on guys, both Honolulu newspapers carried birth announcements of little Barry. Do you really think the conspiracy started then?
Obama is kind of like Clinton in more ways than one - he was incredibly lucky to have enemies that discredited themselves. We seem to have a few posters here that fit that category. As I've said, this birther crap is the luckiest thing that Obama could have happen.
The only folks who seal records are those with something to hide. If Bush woulda done that, the media woulda crucified him.
Anyone who hides the truth from the people have no place in any official capacity, much less the most powerful position on earth.
I dunno know if this charlatan is an American citizen or not, but I do believe he is hiding material evidence that is incriminating, demeaning, and/or indictable.
Until a few years ago, he was a nobody. In a few more he will likely be the most notorious and hated man in the history of this country since Benedict Arnold.
If Trump upsets the pied pipers apple cart, good for the Donald. I hope he does, however it shakes out.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
Has nothing to do with a conspiracy. That argument is a silly red herring. The grandparents called it in or went to the newspaper and announced the birth. It's simple and little did they know what would become of such a harmless act. Explain to me how not one of the two hospitals has any record of Obama being born there?
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. William Arthur Ward
Tim Adam's,.. - not the most credible source wouldn't you say?
Adams describes himself as a Clinton primary supporter, who later voted for McCain in the 2008 general election. While a student at the University of Hawaii, he says he was working a temp position and came to know from his superiors at the local Honolulu elections office, part of the City Clerk�s office, that Barack Obama was not born in that city or county or anywhere in the State of Hawaii.
So. He's a eye witness who swore a affidavit. He's certainly not been proven incredible.It's no secret there is no documentary evidence or eyewitnesses to confirm Obama was born at any Hawaiian hospital, as stated. The Gov. has waffled as to what he saw and just lately settled his waffling by saying he is not permitted to disclose the nature or specifics of the birth certificate. This, of course, came after he first said he saw it, then changed his story to state he only saw some handwritten notations. Now, think of this, not one document or any witness to affirm his birth in any Hawaiian hospital. You have to suspend disbelief to buy into that one.
Isaac---I assume you are speaking of the Governor of Hawaii. You refer to that Governor with the masculine pronoun. If you are not even aware that the Governor of Hawaii is Linda Lingle (a woman) how could anyone give credence to your other prognostications? I, and others, await your response.
Isaac---I assume you are speaking of the Governor of Hawaii. You refer to that Governor with the masculine pronoun. If you are not even aware that the Governor of Hawaii is Linda Lingle (a woman) how could anyone give credence to your other prognostications? I, and others, await your response.
Ha,ha,ha,Linda Lingle. You're living in the past.This is the current governor of Hawaii.He may look like some women that you may know,but I'm quite sure he is a male.
Pressure was mounting on Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie today amid increasing confusion over whether President Obama was born there. Abercrombie said on Tuesday that an investigation had unearthed papers proving Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. He told Honolulu's Star-Advertiser: 'It actually exists in the archives, written down,' he said.
But it became apparent that what had been discovered was an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives and not a birth certificate.
Communist Goals
26. Present homosexuality and degeneracy as normal. 27. Discredit the Bible. 28. Eliminate prayer in the schools.
Tim Adam's,.. - not the most credible source wouldn't you say?
Adams describes himself as a Clinton primary supporter, who later voted for McCain in the 2008 general election. While a student at the University of Hawaii, he says he was working a temp position and came to know from his superiors at the local Honolulu elections office, part of the City Clerk�s office, that Barack Obama was not born in that city or county or anywhere in the State of Hawaii.
So. He's a eye witness who swore a affidavit. He's certainly not been proven incredible.It's no secret there is no documentary evidence or eyewitnesses to confirm Obama was born at any Hawaiian hospital, as stated. The Gov. has waffled as to what he saw and just lately settled his waffling by saying he is not permitted to disclose the nature or specifics of the birth certificate. This, of course, came after he first said he saw it, then changed his story to state he only saw some handwritten notations. Now, think of this, not one document or any witness to affirm his birth in any Hawaiian hospital. You have to suspend disbelief to buy into that one.
Isaac---I assume you are speaking of the Governor of Hawaii. You refer to that Governor with the masculine pronoun. If you are not even aware that the Governor of Hawaii is Linda Lingle (a woman) how could anyone give credence to your other prognostications? I, and others, await your response.
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