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Not too many surprises here for me....mirrors my experience with similar bullets (though not in 8mm calibers).
Barnes solids performed inconsistantly.....which is my main complaint with monometal bullets.
A-Frames came out on top.....which is EXACTLY what I'd expect. I've always considered the A-Frame to be an "improved" Nosler Partition. Same performance WITHOUT losing the front half of every bullet fired into game.
Interesting testing. I think some get too hung up on test media....trying to "match" living flesh. Don't think it really matters too much what media you use....as long as it is consistant so one bullet can be compared to another under near identical conditions. Perhaps I'm seeing a different test? From what I gather, in this test the TSX performed with remarkable consistency, and with equal penetration to the A-Frame.
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I would like to see how the Woodleighs fit in but I am sure they would be right up there with the A-frame.
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Yes the TSX was very consistent the XLC had dubious expansion. I have used the 180 TSX on deer with very good results. GRF
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Good test! Thanks for posting this.I know which I'd grab... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Which would that be Bob? I am a big fan of the Swift, Nosler and Barnes. GRF
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GRF: I like the Swift Aframe;that 180 Barnes would be #2.
Should qualify this by saying I am not an 8mm shooter and am going by my experience with Bitterroots,which are similar to a Swift.
I have watched the 200 Partition work a bit from a pals' 8 Rem Mag and it is good as well.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The TSX does perform well.....as long as velosity is held above 3000 fps. I'd like to see this same test at perhaps 2500 fps. The mono-metal bullets look good when tested at top velosity, but start to become inconsistant when velosity drops (which is very likely to happen at ranges over 200 yards).
In my own experience, the mono-metal bullets are just too inconsistant for me to trust. I much prefer a lead-based premium bullet such as the Nosler or Swift for over-all use. I admit I am a bit set in my ways, but don't trust any "new" Magic bullets when I KNOW what the older favorites will do.
Wat too much "me too" involved in evaluations and not enough real world experience.
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I have not recovered a TSX from game yet. When using the Barnes for any reloading I use light for calibre bullet weights; the 120g TTSX in my daughters 7-08, or the 180g in .325. In a heavy for calibre bullet the Partition or the a-Frame have proven to be wonderful. I have shot and seen a lot of game shot with various partitions and have yet to recover one.
This summer (if it ever arrives here) I will try the 180g TSX at 200 plus yards in test media. GRF
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Great test. I might add that even the bullets that didn't look pretty would still probably have brought home the game.
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Fotis - thnx for resurrecting this thread. I've been a member since '10 but
missed this thread.
I've used Rem 185s for practice but have not tested them for hunting or
curiosity.
I've killed deer w/Speer 200s and they pass thru w/o opening enough on broadside shots for me. Don't like shooting shoulders IF I don't have to.
The Speer & Nosler 200s shoot close to the same POI. Doesn't take much
to adjust to Noslers IF / when I get to elk hunt.
I have some Sierra 220s but this test PARALLELS my other Sierra tests. No
surprise to me.
Thnx Again
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Good test. I love those Swift bullets. A-Frame and Scirocco 2 are about as good as it gets, imo.
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I will be trying sierra 220 and 200 gr Nosler AB's in my new 8mm maggie
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No real surprises here but I always enjoy reviewing the results of wet paper and waterjug testing. They aren't flesh and bone targets but they do provide a fairly consistent test media.
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That's a good report GRF and it mirrors my experience with the TSX in 8mm mauser. I haven't recovered a TSX from deer, elk or bear, all being complete pass throughs at the modest muzzle velocity of 2740fps with a 180gr bullet. Thanks for your work.
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