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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
But Winchester perfected the short mag! whistle


Yep, I think it was in 1958 when that happened grin whistle It's also hell on elk. Since we (campfire members) agree to disagree, I won't say it is the best elk cartridge anymore laugh


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Lol, .338 was kind of the original, wasn't it?


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I'm not saying anything Jeff whistle


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Lol, .338 was kind of the original, wasn't it?


Nope, 458 preceeded the 338.

And really it was not Winchester who was first with a short (made to fit 30/06 length actions)belted case......Roy Weatherby had the 270 and the 7mm in the 40's......PO Ackley had a 270 on a short mag in the 40's as well IIRC....somewhere in the 50's was the 7x61 S&H....IIRC.

And then there was the 276 Dubiel,and the 275H&H mag from the 30's,both of which were on the order of the 7 Rem Mag...

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I reality you are right in a sense the 350 wasn't ballistically new because Newton and Whelen had already stuffed a similar case with the 35 cal bullet and obtained the almost exact performance. I own both and much prefer the Whelen

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I precieve the nomenclature of short as a .308 length action not an 06. They were putting magnum cartridges in 06 length actions in the 20's The 35 Newton predated both the Whelen and the 350. But neither could be considered "short"

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I'm gonna vote for the 375 I'm putting together with Redneck and CASII with the 250 gr TTSX.

Will prolly have to do some field research to test this theory...


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It's hard to go wrong using a model 70 Winchester in the .338 mag caliber for elk!


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my custom 30-8mm remington mag with 200 Gr. Accubonds.

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Take that custom 30-8mm and build it on an improved case and you have the .300 Jarrett. I had one built in the mid 90's. Great round. I was pushing 200 gr. bullets at 3028 fps. That rifle was an elk killing machine.

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Basically an AI, but probably a little different. It was done in either 52 or 53, and with a totally unique reamer. As far as I know, only 2 guns were ever chambered like this; My grandfathers and great-uncle's. This thing absolutely flings 150-180 grain boolits.
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Tannergun, tell us a little about this Coulter magnum. I think i'm over wildcats, but they still interest me.

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Originally Posted by Tonk
It's hard to go wrong using a model 70 Winchester in the .338 mag caliber for elk!


Hey, didn't you already say that about 50 posts back laugh grin


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Alright, I'm with tonk on this one except mine is a Ruger M77 because I couldn't afford a model 70 grin.


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It don't make no never mind as my late brother in law would say! As long as you had that .338 Win mag caliber in your hands and there ain't nothin wrong with a good Ruger model 77 in that caliber you betcha. I thought it was further back but I guess yall got my message ok.


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I don't have anything of value to add but the thread has reached over 30,000 views so take this:

The 264 Win Mag rules. laugh laugh


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I don't have anything of value to add but the thread has reached over 30,000 views so take this:

The 264 Win Mag rules. laugh laugh


Ooohhhh Noooo!!!!

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

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John Burns I suggest sir, that you compare the ballistics with the .270 Winchester and if you like, the .270 WSM too! I am sorry to crash your party but the 264mag was lost on the plains loooooong ago.


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Actually there is a movement here in Wyoming to ban all .270 caliber cartridges because of too many instances of the bullet bouncing off of the elk and endangering the hunter and innocent bystanders.

I personally think the accounts are somewhat overblown but it is probably better to error on the side of safety. grin



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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Actually there is a movement here in Wyoming to ban all .270 caliber cartridges because of too many instances of the bullet bouncing off of the elk and endangering the hunter and innocent bystanders.

I personally think the accounts are somewhat overblown but it is probably better to error on the side of safety. grin



shocked We need to let Bill know......before he gets hurt or somethin' smile

John will you be around Casper or out near the ranch area for a rock shoot this year? cool

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Bob,

From what I can gather from the spotty reports it really is pretty rare to get what is being termed �Catastrophic Bullet Rebound Syndrome� or CBRS.

The early reports of an actual outright ban on the .270 caliber cartridges will most likely not happen, although the Game and Fish might start recommending all hunters using such cartridge wear proper safety equipment.

I will buy you the best steak in Casper if you can get Bill to hunt with a grinding faceshield and hard hat.


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Originally Posted by JohnBurns


I will buy you the best steak in Casper if you can get Bill to hunt with a grinding faceshield and hard hat.


John: For a steak at Poor Boys,consider it 'done"! grin




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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