Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters .260 Rem. vs 6.5 Creedmore, some thoughts.

A peek at Midway shows Creedmoor Hdy factory match for < $26/box of 20. Load data is on the box, so it can be reloaded w/o a lot of experimentation. A target shooter could afford to use factory, and not reload. Hornady decided to have it available at low cost from the beginning. Other than .308 Win, I do not know what match ammo is this low in price.

Other 6.5 cartridges have match ammo listed, but more expensive.

6.5 SE list has some < $20/bx Prvi, but the match ammo is Lapua, etc. and the price is much higher. The Prvi would let a person get started with a hunting rifle w/low ammo cost. RWS has a 140-gr dual core load at over 2850 fps - hottest 6.5 SE load I have seen - do not know test barrel length.

6.5x47 Lapua factory match ammo is expensive ~ $59/box.

.260 Rem list shows Cor-Bon match at ~ $47/box.

They would all be low cost and easy to hand load. Creedmoor is the only one I would shoot much with factory loads.

I've read some of this here and there. I've not experienced it yet and my favorite time of year to work up loads is in the dead of winter.

Alan

1895 - Hornady was smart enough to realize the price of gas is a factor in how much people drive.....or what they burn it in.....the ammo costs will no doubt give an easier path to those willing to try it.

Alan, I have trimmed a few 243 in my day, and a 260 on occasion, but I partial size and perhaps don't run my loads as hard as you I don't know, no doubt as you go up in bore size on the 308 case, trimming seems to be less an issue......worse w/243, better w/a 7/08.

I do know I never needed to trim 6BR or 7BR brass and the 47 has the same attributes. What I do recall is someone mentioning that their 260 in a Sako was the Smoothing feeding rifle they had.......and I had a couple, as did long ago the older AII and L579s both in 243 and those 'less efficient' lower shoulder angles do help it seems.

So long as a rifle feeds smooth and reliable I don't mind a sharper angled round, though Terry Cross tried a 260 AI and went BACK to the original due to it's better feeding - IN the rifles/platforms he works w/for steel/silhouette - tactical matches. I never ran an AI, and concern over feeding has been a reason. In reviewing his report http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek046.html you can see however he ran a 40 degree AI, so I can see a 47 w/30 degree working better.

I think you did get your 47 feeding properly after the custom action maker tuned it correct? No fault of the round I am sure as the 47 seems to do fine in most repeaters from what I have seen.

BTW, I did find one very interesting variant of a 260...

http://www.6mmar.com/65_SuperLR.php

Reading up on it, it would have been the way Rem MIGHT have gone, and it would have been ever so slightly better in design, not that it would make alot more speed or accuracy, but it would not hurt either.

As nice a design it is, I expect it to remain a wildcat round shot by a few discriminating shooters in custom guns.

I think I'll stay with the 6.5X55.

OK,
Before somebody says they saw this in 1940 I want to post a picture.

22 Vampire killer,17 werewolf,and a 22 pussy cat.
The first 2 are built on 458 Mag basic brass and the 3rd on 44 mag brass. I see real promise. Dave Kiff has the reamer prints.
Butch

I think Butch is on to something....


Never had any problems with the small primers not going off, even in subzero temps last fall in Montana. We have shot alot of 6.5x47 in competition and now use a modified 6mm variation of it. The 6.5x47 will run at the same speeds as the 6.5 CM and the 260. 3000fps with 130's is the norm, 2870 with 139's is the norm with my reamer in 26" barrels. The 260 has the advantage with inexpensive brass available, and now with Lapua making brass, it may be able to be pushed to a new performance level as well. Kinda want to chamber a barrel with my 260AI reamer now and see how the Lapua brass will work.

LMAO - Thanks Butch - Great pic - I learn something new everyday!

TMR - guess you have not skipped the 08 case entirely and tried the 6.5RM or 6.5-284?

Butch, btw, I know you have done several 47s...must be a reason why...other than always having something guys drool over in your gunporn...I mean art. I must find out what it is! LOL.

You all have a Happy Mother's Day weekend.

That's a 'cannot lose proposition' albeit very simple one! Can never argue a Sweet Swede. Never NOT liked the ones I owned. The deer HATED them, EVERY Single ONE hit by a Swede of mine seriously.....DRT.

Luck I guess

Yeah, there ain't any flies on a good 6.5x55. I've used one on a bunch of different game out to close to 400 yards, and it just flat works.

My present one is a custom FN Mauser with a "California English" stock and 21" Lilja barrel. It will shoot pretty well....

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I have a plain old Ruger Mk II in 6.5X55. Shoots pretty well, too!


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Wherever did you find that rifle?

Boy,

After reading all of this, I think how simple it is to just stick with my 260 Remingtons...although, I also enjoy a couple of 6.5 x 55s.. and my favorite round still is the 6.5 x 57...

But this thread inspired me on something else...

I think I will explore necking down a 6.5 x 47 to 22 caliber...

I bet that would make a nifty varmint round!!

so should I call it a 22 x 47 or a 5.56 x 47?

I was thinking of maybe necking up the Creedmoor case to a 30 cal. Maybe add a bit of a rim. Make a dandy lever round.

Wouldn't that be something like a 300 Savage?

Alan

Isn't that what RWS calls the 5.6x57? Methinks someone beat you to it...

Grasshopper,
The 5.6X47 would be different than the 5.65X57 RWS. About 10 millimeters.
Butch

or 308 Marlin.

OK! I was tired! And my eyes were seeing things...

Still even more tired...

If the 6.5 x 47 is based on necking up the 250 Savage case, then necking it down to 22 caliber would give you what cartridge?

guess you weren't the only person that missed the sarcasm intended...