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Looking at a Rem 700 SPS Tactical with a 20" 223 barrel and like the rifle and price. What am I giving up with the short barrel in speed as I'm also considering a SPS Stainless in 24"? Does a little 223 case need a longer than 20" barrel? It will be used for woodchucks to 300 yds.

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If your only shooting out to 300 yards 20" is more than you would need. I dare say that even a 16" barrel would give you enough velocity for shooting out to 300 yards (noise is another story). The difference in velocity between a 20" and 24" 223 barrel is prettly slim.

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That's good to know as I like the feel of the little Tactical and the fact that it has a 1-9 twist.

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Nope...not giving up anything in that Bbl...buy it and rock on!


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I'd take the 20" 1/9 over the 24" 1/12 without hesitation.

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I have one of those rifles, nice little rig, you won't lose anything with the 20" barrel. TAC and 70 grain VLD's are a nice combo, and gophers hate thr 50 gr. BT's out of it.


Stock is kinda cheezy, I bedded it and laid in some reinforced epoxy into the forend to stiffen it. An A2 is on the list to replace it..


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I have an older Savage 110 "4x4" model in .223 with a 20-inch barrel, and found myself shooting over prairie dogs at a lasered 287 yards, sighted in one and a half inches high at 100 yards, holding over their heads. This was with a 40 gr Ballistic Tip and a max load of H-335. It shot a lot flatter than I expected.


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Never knew there was a reason to go much longer.


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Rancho-your rig will perk with the 70's?

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Dusty-many many moons ago I was cutting 223's to 21", IMO it's the way to go. If I were you I'd be all over that rig! It'll be a rock star for you.

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Rancho-your rig will perk with the 70's?

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Over 25 gr. of TAC, very nicely..


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Ugly Tikka shoots the same load lights out, too..


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which bullet and what twists?

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VLD..

The Rem is a 9 twist, ugly Tikka is an 8.


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My Bushmaster AR-15 has a 16" barrel and it has done PD's in just fine at 400+ yards.


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I've got a 17 1/2" Rock 8 twist that runs 75's at 2900 even. I've killed out to 850.

I wouldn't worry about a 20.....

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The M16A1s and A2s are 20", which would seem to suggest that the .223 is just about right with that length.

That's how I look at it, anyway............


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My new toy-in-progress is a 20" .223ai, to me it seems the perfect fit.

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Alot of talk about the 223 AI lately. What kind of speeds are we talking about over the 223? I understand the advantage of the straighter case for less trimming as well as the ease of fire forming. thanx.

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