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The same as any other light for caliber bullet...

That statement is not limited to a .260 v. .243 discussion.

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Originally Posted by stillbeeman
Why shoot a 100gr bullet in a .260?? IMO, one of the advantages of a .260 over a .243 is the selection of heavier and better bullets.


Because you now get a 300yd MPBR without blowing up the gun or burning hatfulls of powder. My 6.5x55 swede easily reaches 3150fps with the 100gr BT.


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I guess. I've only shot a couple of WTs with my .260 but one was at 250 yards. Center hold using a 140gr Corelokt bullet in my reformed 243 brass and the deer never moved out of his shadow.
I didn't understand your comment about blowing up the rifle???


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Originally Posted by stillbeeman
I guess. I've only shot a couple of WTs with my .260 but one was at 250 yards. Center hold using a 140gr Corelokt bullet in my reformed 243 brass and the deer never moved out of his shadow.
I didn't understand your comment about blowing up the rifle???


Because some guys try to push the limits with 120 and 140 gr bullets to get the flattest trajectories possible. If you use a 100gr bullet like the Nosler BT, you get string tight trajectories without pushing the pressure envelope.


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ya know. I like the way guys who shoot these calibers think.


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I,ve shoot 5 or 6 antelope with 257 Roberts and 115gr nosler
partitions, complete passthru no matter how you hit them,
if under 200 yards. All dropped dead no tracking. Great
bullet also accurate in my Model 70. I was using IMR 4350
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Will be selling my almost new Ruger 77 compact .260 soon...take down the name and check classifieds tomorrow or day after!


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Rifle is up on classifieds....


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.260 Rem+120 grn TSX = dead chit everytime.

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I've taken deer with most of the 100 grain bullets available in a 260 Rem... and with an MV of 3350 fps...

as dumb as it may seem, my least favorite is the 100 grain partition... surprisingly, unless the animal you are shooting has some bulk to it, that bullet is actually overkill and can pass thru a deer before fully opening up...

if you are going for 200 to 250 lb plus deer or bear, then the 100 grain partition is a good choice...for most deer the 100 grain Hornady SP is plenty fine... as is the 100 grain HP from Sierra...I love the ballistic tip, but I have learned to throttle that back some unless I am shooting long distance with it...

the only one I have not personally experienced, but need to remedy and it looks great is the 100 grain TTSX...

My first pick for a 260 with a 100 grain bullet for deer under 250 lbs would be the Hornady First, the Sierra second, the Ballistic Tip third and the 100 GR partition fourth...

If you can find them, and I have a couple of hundred of them.. is the 105 grain SMP Partition, which Nosler makes for the EuroMarket Factory Ammo.. but can be occasionally found at the Shooters Pro Shop... I have to admit, I have about 500 or more of them... the SMP lead part opens up quicker than the American Market Spitzer Partition in 100 grains...

so for regular sized deer, grab one of the other bullets, or else slow it down, so it won't pass thru before opening up...

if it is a big deer, then go for it, if you can't locate any TTSXs...


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It is strange indeed, but my experience with a 100 grain .264" Partition is different from Seafire (I'm not doing this on purpose my friend).

I've killed a handful of whitetail and a couple of mule deer from near and far and each time I've had a decent sized exit and quite a bit of bloodshot meat. Not extreme, but there.

These were generally started about 3,100...

Great deer bullet at .260 velocities, IME...

The 100 TTSX, really blew a shoulder up for me last year. Had to discard most of it.



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slow it down, so it won't pass thru before opening up...


Higher impact speeds mean higher forces acting on the bullet. This speeds expansion of any bullet.

The terminal effects you've observed from the little Partition driven fast are more likely the result of the front section getting blown off earlier in the wound track, leaving only the smaller diameter "wadcutter" section to do the rest of the work.

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The front core in all Partitions is a very soft lead alloy. It's not only softer than the lead alloy used in the rear core, but soft than the alloy used by just about any manufacturer of cup-and-core bullets.

This is why the front end of Partitions opens up so easily--and why it kills so well, despite the abudandance of hunters who think a Partition has "failed" when the front core is gone. The fragmenting does more interior damage, and that's exactly the way John Nosler designed it to work.

Just as often, however, we also run into hunters who think a Partition didn't open because the exit hole is only slightly larger than the entrance hole. This is caused by the same thing: The front core disintegrating, and the thin jacket around it folding back alongside the rear 2/3 of the bullet.

In fact, it is commonly assumed that a small exit hole with ANY bullet means it didn't expand. Almost always, field-dressing the animal and looking at the damage to the chest cavity will reveal that the bullet really did expand.

I remember a nice mule deer buck I killed one evening in Wyoming with a 115 Partition from a .257 Roberts. It went down within a few yards, but only had a "caliber-size" exit hole on the far side of the chest. Yet when I opened up the buck the chest was full of blood soup and a number of separate pieces of lung.

The truth is that almost any expanding bullet will be fully open by the time it penetrates its own length, whether the bullet is a Sierra GameKing or a Barnes TSX. The only bullet that I know of that delays opening is the Berger VLD, which normally goes in a couple inches before disintegtrating. All the others expand quickly--especially the Nosler Partition with its soft front core.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The front core in all Partitions is a very soft lead alloy. It's not only softer than the lead alloy used in the rear core, but soft than the alloy used by just about any manufacturer of cup-and-core bullets.

This is why the front end of Partitions opens up so easily--and why it kills so well, despite the abudandance of hunters who think a Partition has "failed" when the front core is gone. The fragmenting does more interior damage, and that's exactly the way John Nosler designed it to work.


THANKS M D - I've read several of those same reports about N Ps failing because they seperated. It's hard to believe but just about has to be true, that many don't understand that IS the way they are DESIGNED. Maybe coming from you it'll carry a little more weight. (Pun intended)


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Stillbeeman: The MAIN reason to shoot 100 grain bullets in a 260 Remington is the exceptional and reliable lethality they induce on Deer and Antelope size game.
The weight of a bullet is NOT the main factor in lethality on Deer and Antelope sized game!
IF weight WERE the main factor in lethality on Deer and Antelope sized game then everyone would Hunt them with a 700 Nitro Express and its 1,000 grain bullet!
TRY the 100 grain bullets from a 260 Remington on Deer and Antelope sized game for a few years and see what I mean.
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I know this thread is from 2011 but I would like to thank those that contributed. I am setting up a m7 with a 20” tube in rem260 for my 80 year old dad. I’ve got a box of partitions and ballistic tips as well as IMR4064, varget, and h4350 and Norma brass in stock. I’m going to start with the 4064 and partitions based on the detail you all provided above. A set of dies is all that’s left to obtain. Thanks again this was helpful


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The 100 grain Partition is a good bullet. fwiw - the Barnes TTSX 100 grain is my go to bullet in a .260 that I have the kids use. One shot two pigs with one shot last year. The bullet went through both pigs including exiting the one in back. Both were very dead.

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Have used both the 125gr Partition and 140gr Partition with H4350 with excellent results. I'll bet the 100gr PT will destroy the biggest of bucks just fine.


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Jeffbird and Shag I hear ya the Barnes . I shoot them in everything I own for close to 20 years. Purposely not using them here in hopes of giving dad a bigger blood trail from a cup and core. As well, trying to drop some recoil for the old man. I’ve been loading 120gr TTSX for him for the 7-08 he currently uses and if it’s not DRT he has a hard time tracking on occasion. He sits on the edge of an open field that butts up to some really thick brush and then transitions to wetlands. Most of them drop in the field because I’ve got him trained to neck shoot them when standing still, but he has had a few come in all amped up chasing does that require some tracking when hit through the boiler room. Hoping to get some of those half dollar size holes for him on the exit side.

If it was me shooting this I would be in the 120 TTSX or 125g partition camp myself.


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That's what's great about the 260. You can shoot a 100gr bullet on Coyotes and Antelope. and use a heavier bullet for deer size animals and up. I use 139 gr Scenar's on whitetail deer, works great. Good blood trail when shot through the boiler room. they don't go far. 20yds maybe. But usually bang flop DRT when shot in the shoulder.

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