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anyone shooting these at deer? launched b/w 3100-3200 they should be quite the deer bullet with low recoil....of ocurse the 100 TTSX is another consideration


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I've Killed A Bunch With The 100 Gr's. Four Years Ago, a 403 Lb Black Bear. Shot Was at 31 Yards{3096FPS}. Bullet Broke Both Shoulder And Found in The Hide On The Far shoulder{23"}. Bear Never Made a Sound And Went Straight Down. Bullet Weighted 81 Gr's.

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I shoot the 100 grain Partition in some of my 260s. 3250 from a 22" barrel without any pressure signs gives a nice balance of speed/accuracy/penetration.

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I use 100gr Partitions in my .243 and all pass thrus so far. Longest shot was 205 yds

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I shoot 95 grain .243" Partitions myself, but get the same thru/thru outcome.

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260 Remguy what the heck? With that handle, and a question about a 260, you talk about your 243? shocked lol So what DO you shoot out of your 260 anyway?


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Jeff has had the same bullet response to that question for going on about 5 years now Jeff?

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I have been using them for the last year or so in both the 6.5x55 and the 6.5 Jap. They work well from both guns on the few deer shot with them. High speed, low recoil, good groups. I have not recoverd one from deer and trails from DRT to 20 yards or so. I do not see how they would not work well in the .260 and you can use the 100 grain BT's for less expensive practice ammo. They hit within an inch of the partition groups from both guns for me.


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The 25 rifle cartridges that I shoot the most are:

17 HM2
17 HMR
22 LR
22 MRF
223
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243
25 Souper
257 Roberts
25 WSSM
25-284
260
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300 Savage
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30-06
8x57

I use 95 grain VMax, 100 grain BT & Partition, 108 grain Scenar, 120 grain BT, 123 grain Scenar, 129 grain SpirePoint & SST, 139 grain Scenar, and 140 grain AMax & Partition bullets in the 18 .264" bore rifles that I shoot on a regular basis.

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no TTSX's???

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No, not in .264".

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Side note and sorry to do this but what are your thoughts on the 25/284 Jeff?

feeding, speeds etc?

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I really like the 25-284 and have no trouble feeding in my Remington and Savage rifles. I'm in the process of putting together another 25-284, Marlin XS-7 donor and a 24" A&B 250-3000 barrel from MidwayUSA. I have 24" barrels on my 25-284s and am looking forward to see how the 80 grain TTSX will work.

The 25-284 is about the same as the 257AI or 25 WSSM, a little faster than the 257 Roberts and a little slower than the 25-06.

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Thx Jeff

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I have a sharp 25-284 finish reamer if you ever feel the need.

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Good to know..grin

Thinking .260 may be a better tool for me.

How many 25/284's can you put down in a 700 with a Ti handle? 2,3,or 4?

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Originally Posted by 260_REM_fan
no TTSX's???


I'm not Jeff but I could only get the 100 TTSX in my .260 (22" tube) to about 3150'ish.

That same tube gets me at or slightly over 2900 with a 130. The 130 (Scirocco II with a crazy high BC) catches it very quickly. This is from initial testing that will be continuing throughout the summer.

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SAKO75: I have used the 100 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips in my Remington 700 VLS in 260 Remington for some time now.
A more lethal and accurate bullet on Deer, Antelope and Coyotes (from a 260) I can not imagine!
Please give the 100 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips a try also.
And indeed, in my heavy barreled Remington 700 VLS with Leupold 6.5x20 scope and the tall Harris Bi-pod attached - recoil, is about none existent.
Best of luck with your 260!
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Why shoot a 100gr bullet in a .260?? IMO, one of the advantages of a .260 over a .243 is the selection of heavier and better bullets.


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The same as any other light for caliber bullet...

That statement is not limited to a .260 v. .243 discussion.

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Originally Posted by stillbeeman
Why shoot a 100gr bullet in a .260?? IMO, one of the advantages of a .260 over a .243 is the selection of heavier and better bullets.


Because you now get a 300yd MPBR without blowing up the gun or burning hatfulls of powder. My 6.5x55 swede easily reaches 3150fps with the 100gr BT.


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I guess. I've only shot a couple of WTs with my .260 but one was at 250 yards. Center hold using a 140gr Corelokt bullet in my reformed 243 brass and the deer never moved out of his shadow.
I didn't understand your comment about blowing up the rifle???


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Originally Posted by stillbeeman
I guess. I've only shot a couple of WTs with my .260 but one was at 250 yards. Center hold using a 140gr Corelokt bullet in my reformed 243 brass and the deer never moved out of his shadow.
I didn't understand your comment about blowing up the rifle???


Because some guys try to push the limits with 120 and 140 gr bullets to get the flattest trajectories possible. If you use a 100gr bullet like the Nosler BT, you get string tight trajectories without pushing the pressure envelope.


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ya know. I like the way guys who shoot these calibers think.


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I,ve shoot 5 or 6 antelope with 257 Roberts and 115gr nosler
partitions, complete passthru no matter how you hit them,
if under 200 yards. All dropped dead no tracking. Great
bullet also accurate in my Model 70. I was using IMR 4350
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Will be selling my almost new Ruger 77 compact .260 soon...take down the name and check classifieds tomorrow or day after!


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.260 Rem+120 grn TSX = dead chit everytime.

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I've taken deer with most of the 100 grain bullets available in a 260 Rem... and with an MV of 3350 fps...

as dumb as it may seem, my least favorite is the 100 grain partition... surprisingly, unless the animal you are shooting has some bulk to it, that bullet is actually overkill and can pass thru a deer before fully opening up...

if you are going for 200 to 250 lb plus deer or bear, then the 100 grain partition is a good choice...for most deer the 100 grain Hornady SP is plenty fine... as is the 100 grain HP from Sierra...I love the ballistic tip, but I have learned to throttle that back some unless I am shooting long distance with it...

the only one I have not personally experienced, but need to remedy and it looks great is the 100 grain TTSX...

My first pick for a 260 with a 100 grain bullet for deer under 250 lbs would be the Hornady First, the Sierra second, the Ballistic Tip third and the 100 GR partition fourth...

If you can find them, and I have a couple of hundred of them.. is the 105 grain SMP Partition, which Nosler makes for the EuroMarket Factory Ammo.. but can be occasionally found at the Shooters Pro Shop... I have to admit, I have about 500 or more of them... the SMP lead part opens up quicker than the American Market Spitzer Partition in 100 grains...

so for regular sized deer, grab one of the other bullets, or else slow it down, so it won't pass thru before opening up...

if it is a big deer, then go for it, if you can't locate any TTSXs...


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It is strange indeed, but my experience with a 100 grain .264" Partition is different from Seafire (I'm not doing this on purpose my friend).

I've killed a handful of whitetail and a couple of mule deer from near and far and each time I've had a decent sized exit and quite a bit of bloodshot meat. Not extreme, but there.

These were generally started about 3,100...

Great deer bullet at .260 velocities, IME...

The 100 TTSX, really blew a shoulder up for me last year. Had to discard most of it.



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slow it down, so it won't pass thru before opening up...


Higher impact speeds mean higher forces acting on the bullet. This speeds expansion of any bullet.

The terminal effects you've observed from the little Partition driven fast are more likely the result of the front section getting blown off earlier in the wound track, leaving only the smaller diameter "wadcutter" section to do the rest of the work.

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The front core in all Partitions is a very soft lead alloy. It's not only softer than the lead alloy used in the rear core, but soft than the alloy used by just about any manufacturer of cup-and-core bullets.

This is why the front end of Partitions opens up so easily--and why it kills so well, despite the abudandance of hunters who think a Partition has "failed" when the front core is gone. The fragmenting does more interior damage, and that's exactly the way John Nosler designed it to work.

Just as often, however, we also run into hunters who think a Partition didn't open because the exit hole is only slightly larger than the entrance hole. This is caused by the same thing: The front core disintegrating, and the thin jacket around it folding back alongside the rear 2/3 of the bullet.

In fact, it is commonly assumed that a small exit hole with ANY bullet means it didn't expand. Almost always, field-dressing the animal and looking at the damage to the chest cavity will reveal that the bullet really did expand.

I remember a nice mule deer buck I killed one evening in Wyoming with a 115 Partition from a .257 Roberts. It went down within a few yards, but only had a "caliber-size" exit hole on the far side of the chest. Yet when I opened up the buck the chest was full of blood soup and a number of separate pieces of lung.

The truth is that almost any expanding bullet will be fully open by the time it penetrates its own length, whether the bullet is a Sierra GameKing or a Barnes TSX. The only bullet that I know of that delays opening is the Berger VLD, which normally goes in a couple inches before disintegtrating. All the others expand quickly--especially the Nosler Partition with its soft front core.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
The front core in all Partitions is a very soft lead alloy. It's not only softer than the lead alloy used in the rear core, but soft than the alloy used by just about any manufacturer of cup-and-core bullets.

This is why the front end of Partitions opens up so easily--and why it kills so well, despite the abudandance of hunters who think a Partition has "failed" when the front core is gone. The fragmenting does more interior damage, and that's exactly the way John Nosler designed it to work.


THANKS M D - I've read several of those same reports about N Ps failing because they seperated. It's hard to believe but just about has to be true, that many don't understand that IS the way they are DESIGNED. Maybe coming from you it'll carry a little more weight. (Pun intended)


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Stillbeeman: The MAIN reason to shoot 100 grain bullets in a 260 Remington is the exceptional and reliable lethality they induce on Deer and Antelope size game.
The weight of a bullet is NOT the main factor in lethality on Deer and Antelope sized game!
IF weight WERE the main factor in lethality on Deer and Antelope sized game then everyone would Hunt them with a 700 Nitro Express and its 1,000 grain bullet!
TRY the 100 grain bullets from a 260 Remington on Deer and Antelope sized game for a few years and see what I mean.
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I know this thread is from 2011 but I would like to thank those that contributed. I am setting up a m7 with a 20” tube in rem260 for my 80 year old dad. I’ve got a box of partitions and ballistic tips as well as IMR4064, varget, and h4350 and Norma brass in stock. I’m going to start with the 4064 and partitions based on the detail you all provided above. A set of dies is all that’s left to obtain. Thanks again this was helpful


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The 100 grain Partition is a good bullet. fwiw - the Barnes TTSX 100 grain is my go to bullet in a .260 that I have the kids use. One shot two pigs with one shot last year. The bullet went through both pigs including exiting the one in back. Both were very dead.

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Have used both the 125gr Partition and 140gr Partition with H4350 with excellent results. I'll bet the 100gr PT will destroy the biggest of bucks just fine.


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Jeffbird and Shag I hear ya the Barnes . I shoot them in everything I own for close to 20 years. Purposely not using them here in hopes of giving dad a bigger blood trail from a cup and core. As well, trying to drop some recoil for the old man. I’ve been loading 120gr TTSX for him for the 7-08 he currently uses and if it’s not DRT he has a hard time tracking on occasion. He sits on the edge of an open field that butts up to some really thick brush and then transitions to wetlands. Most of them drop in the field because I’ve got him trained to neck shoot them when standing still, but he has had a few come in all amped up chasing does that require some tracking when hit through the boiler room. Hoping to get some of those half dollar size holes for him on the exit side.

If it was me shooting this I would be in the 120 TTSX or 125g partition camp myself.


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That's what's great about the 260. You can shoot a 100gr bullet on Coyotes and Antelope. and use a heavier bullet for deer size animals and up. I use 139 gr Scenar's on whitetail deer, works great. Good blood trail when shot through the boiler room. they don't go far. 20yds maybe. But usually bang flop DRT when shot in the shoulder.

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If I was looking for good-sized exits in a 6.5, I would shoot something bonded for a fat mushroom, or even a heavier cup/core like a 140gr Gameking/Interlock/Hot-Cor. I don't think a high-speed 100gr NPT is going to be much different in expanded frontal diameter than a 100TTSX. I've shot the 100gr TTSX at 3,200 from a 260 and it was a great killer, but blood trails were probably not its strong suit.


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I mostly shoot 130 grain ABs through deer from the Remington 7 laminated mannlicher-style parts gun in 260 these days.

Or 90 grain VMax through coyotes from the 700 VLS and Savage parts gun.

Hardly ever shoot any of the 260s these days. Rode the 260 hard from 1997 thru 2005, moved to the 25 WSSM from 2005 thru 2014, and am now riding the 6.5 CM. Also shoot the 223, 22-250. and 243 a lot more than I did in 2011.

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Lots of good choices in .264 to choose from. I've pretty much settled on the 120 TTSX and the 129 Interlock for my 260Rem.

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fwiw - here is one of the boys shooting a .260 with the Barnes TTSX 100 grain with shot placement to the high shoulder. The buck was over 200# on the scales. Shot placement to the high shoulder one third down from the back produces DRT with minimal meat loss and no tracking required. I recommend waiting until the animal puts the head down, which makes the kids take some time to breathe and calm down.

My recommendation of Barnes is specific only to the TTSX and LRX. The TSX was very inconsistent and I will not use them for anything. The TTSX has been 100% consistent in well more than a hundred animals at this point.



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That’s pretty good stuff there Jeff

Using my sophisticated google foo skills I went through the 10 pages available for part number 30240 and everyone is out of stock on those 100 grainers including Barnes. Wanna sell me a box LOL


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I've used both the Partition and Ballistic tip, in the 100 gr Weight Class out of the 260
Running 43.5 grains of 4064, with an MV of 3350 fps...

In this application and bullet weight, I prefer the Ballistic Tip over the Partition
This is on blacktails...

if you do have a tracking job, the ballistic is better to help do that, than the partition is.


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I have struggled with the 100g Nosler Partition in my Savage chambered for the 260 Rem. The 100g Nosler Ballistic Tip consistently shoots sub MOA using H414 and it easily produces velocities of 3240-3300+ with no signs of pressure. I also get similar sub-MOA accuracy using the Hornady 123g SST using H414 at 2930+ FPS. BUT the 100g Nosler Partition opens up to 1.3-1.5 MOA using the same powder. I have some Varget/I4350/I4064 that I could try.

I have thought about loading up some some 100g Nosler BT but I will be hunting in Northern Idaho this year for Whitetail. That is thick country and shots usually are mostly less than 100 yards. I fear the NBT could splash if it hit a shoulder. Does the NBT consistently produce pass throughs even a short distances?

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I am using the 100 gr NBT out of my 260 with a full load of H414, and getting right at 3275. Everything I have shot with this combo has been dead right there. I have a box or two of 100 gr Partitions, but as of yet have not bothered to load any.


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Started off with 100gr TTSX at a moderate 3000fps and worked as expected on NY/PA deer with very little bloodshot meat. Got bored, changed powders and tuned them up to 3300fps. Out of the 5 deer taken with that load, 4 were bang flops, the other ran 40yds and expired. Again, worked as they should, EXCEPT there was a significant amount more bloodshot meat on each deer. Enough for me to go back to IMR 4350 and slower speeds.


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I shoot 139gr Lapua Scenar's in my 260 for hunting WT Deer. Most are DRT (shoulder shot). Had a few go 20-30 yds. double lung shot's. Good blood trail, not much damage to the meat. They are traveling slower than 100gr bullet. But they sure do a good job on WT Deer.

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I wish I had some 100g nbts and npts.. I usually run heavier bullets but my 10 year would probably like 100g bullets better in his grendel than the 129s I'm loading for him. We are heading hunting in the morning so we'll see how he does. He typically shoots pretty well but has been acting a bit recoil shy lately.

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I got my 10 year old in close on a good 4x4 this morning and he missed it twice. I feel pretty bad and he's disappointed. I spent too much time building him rifles and working up loads and didn't get him out shooting enough. He told me when we saw the buck he wanted my lightweight ar which I had in the truck and I made him use the grendel which hes been a bit shy off.

It was a pressured shot because the bucks were moving and then would stop for a few seconds he'd about get lined up and then they'd move again. I guess I didn't just wanting him going rapid fire with ar I wanted him to aim but I should have let him use what he was confident with.

I had a 20 round mag of 60g partitions in the ar and should have just let him use it. At age 10 it was tough to get him in position and try and get him some sort of rest it the field for steady shooting. It was a really good buck and was under 100. We're going to try again in the morning. We saw about 11 bucks today. Two good 4x4 bucks, a decent 3x4 or 4x4 some 3x3s and a few 2x2s.

He hasn't shot much with a scope and any hunting rifle is just a lot harder to hold up then his savage rascal he's most used to shooting. Even the mini grendel in the mdt lss with the magpul and scope and Harris bipod is a bit heavy for him. And he had issues finding them in the scope even though I had it turned down to 3 x.

We met an out of stater on the hunt and he came up to us this evening and said he had 4 bucks spotted and invited us to go shoot one with him. We went and found the bucks with him and I ranged them at 280 and tried to get my kid to lay down in the rocks and get on the bipod. I dialed a Mil on his grendel for elevation. He couldn't get situated and there was another good 4x4 in this group that the out of stater had just got his rifle locked into some big tripod he had and asked me to give him a range. I told him 280 and then told him I think he needed to just take his shot because they were looking like the were about to bolt and I said my boy wasn't going to get situated on time.

The guy took the 280 yard shot with is christensen Ridgeline 28 nosler from his trip pod rest and missed it. The guy was pretty embarrassed but I just told him we really appreciated him letting us in on it and hoped it didn't throw him off. He had flown in from Ohio and rented a fancy newer black yukon. He had never been here before he had just heard somewhere that idaho 54 was a good mule deer area so he put in and drew.

We met him earlier in the day and pointed him towards some areas to glass for bigger bucks. He more than repaid us layer by trying to get us in on the shot. I always enjoy meeting decent people hunting. I always try to help people out and appreciate those that do the same. That poor black yukon was all scratched up but I was amazed the low profile street tires hadn't all been flattened on the sharp rocks. He told that he was planning on some extra charges when he returned the rental.

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I run the 120 Barnes ttsx in 260 Remington and 6.5 rem mag. both are not producing pass thru shots in the front shoudler areas of a deer, and all the deer I have shot have either flopped or stumbled 30 yards and expired, several bigger northern MN bucks so there is alot of carcass and body. There was no doubt in any of them they were hit they just buckled on impact.

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Nosler 120 gr Partition works for me

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I have killed 8 or 9 big deer and dozens of big pigs with the 100 grain ballistic tip in my 260 AI, it kills faster than any other bullet I have used

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