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By Southern_WI_Savage

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Posted by Lightfoot:

Here is a statement I copied from an ebay seller many years back:

A lot of watchers/buyers are unclear about the chronology of Weaver early K model scopes, so here is a general guideline. It may not be 100% correct, but is very close:

1946/47: Weaver introduces the K model in 2.5X and 4X. First models have tiny friction-lock adjustment screws, no adjustment caps, black painted brass lens ring on front, no lens ring on rear. Adjustment saddle tends to turn copper color over lengthy period of time (50 years or so)

1948: Black painted brass lens ring added to rear. No proof marks are on the scopes

1949: Larger black dial click adjustment replaces tiny friction-lock screw adjustment

1949/50: Round top adjustment caps are added, 1X and 6X models added, "S inside a diamond" proof mark appears

1950-55: An assortment of proof marks appear, individually and together..."S inside a diamond", "P inside a circle", "L" by itself, but often with an "S"; chronology of marks cannot be established, location of marks varies from alongside "El Paso, Tex" to just below, to way below, sometimes not on a consistent line or spacing. Location of branding/model printing also appears anywhere from just above threads (on very rare occasions, just inside the threads) to midway up to adjustments, to just below adjustments. This is one of the indications of the frantic production pace at Weaver just to keep up with worldwide demand, which often doubled and even tripled in one year. Even though the roll printing process was not always precise, there has never been found any indication whatsoever that the quality of functional parts was ever compromised to keep up with production.

1951/2: Silver adjustment dials used in place of black dials

1952: 8X and 10X models are added

1955/6: 6-ring bullseye adjustment caps appear, Model "60 in a box" appears (NOT 60B)

1957: Model "60B" appears, with first constantly-centered reticle in a 1" scope

1959/60: Brass lens rings are replaced by black plastic rings. "Bullseye" caps replaced with beveled top, knurled side caps for better grip with gloves.

After 1960, it is a bit easier to keep up with changes, as they did not occur on a sometimes-weekly basis, as they did in earlier years.

Here is the Link to the full Thread:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...t-series-mounted-with-stith#Post17916274

Posted by missedbycrack:

This page shows the variations in lever safetys followed by interchangability right below.

[email]https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...hanging-out-99-slide-safety#Post18377592[/email]

Toy Rifles by GeneB

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-savage-model-31-play-rifle#Post18670746

Savage watch fobs by GeneB:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...kel-plated-savage-watch-fob#Post18673958

The inter workings of lever and bolt by Missedbycracky

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...5/lever-bolt-kinematics-2-0#Post18802805

By GeneB

[img]https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...omparison-marlin-savage-1895-1899#UNREAD[/img]

By Fireball2

One thing I will say- Knowledge sometimes comes hard, and with bad outcomes. If in ignorance and carelessness a trigger is messed with, disaster is likely and can be fatal. Not worth it if you fall into that category of pilgrim. Don't be stupid, be self-aware.

On the other hand, if a Savage 99 trigger is approached with caution, inquisitiveness, and a desire to fully understand, rather than pursue an agenda, (i.e. "lighten the trigger"), knowledge is there for the gleaning.

In the end, they are a very simple mechanical device so of course they can be understood better and possibly enhanced. The problem is, most people shouldn't touch a trigger, they're just not wired for it. Aptitude matters! Most people have the attention span of a gnat and shouldn't be allowed within two miles of a sack of rubber balls.

Keep in mind that the gun will most certainly outlive the pilgrim therefore all care should be exercised to ensure it's proper function for the next generations of owners. A slamfire can be fatal, and is not to be minimized!

In conclusion, a Savage 99 trigger can be worked on, of course they can, but most people should not because they aren't willing to invest the appropriate amount of care into ensuring it won't get messed up and possibly cause a problem for someone down the road.

It's up to every man to decide for himself what level of care and responsibility he is willing to take. As always, weighing the potential benefit against the level of risk should be at the forefront of your thought process.

I do believe it is wrong to toss blanket statements around like, "Never work on a Savage 99 trigger". That's silly. The reason it's done is, IMO, we all agree most people shouldn't. But they certainly can be.